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Title: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: undercovergeek on December 03, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
Im getting ready to sit down and do some proper raven-shielding this week, and have lost days to sim city 4 and Civ 4 recently. Whilst at no point do i claim any of these to be classics, is anyone out there still booting up older games and enjoying playing 2008s releases in all their graphical splendour as opposed to rocking back and forth on the sofa waiting for the next big release to come out?
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: mirth on December 03, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
I have a boatload of old games and I love to play/replay them. I can live with the graphics on most games done in the last 10-12 years.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: LongBlade on December 03, 2012, 12:01:17 PM
I rarely revisit a game. Precious few titles get a second life once I'm done with them. No idea why, but it's how I'm built.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Longdan on December 03, 2012, 12:12:03 PM
Too good for your old girlfriends.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Greybriar on December 03, 2012, 12:30:41 PM
Sometimes I get tired of a new game and boot up a PC game that I've had for nearly twenty years. I have plenty to choose from stashed in my former game room in a small building behind my home, along with vintage PCs capable of running DOS and older versions of Windows.

So if Steam went belly up, SOE's Station disappeared, Uplay and Games for Windows Live went out of existence, or even should the internet cease to exist, I would still have hundreds--perhaps thousands (I quit keeping track in 1994)--of PC games to play.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Sir Slash on December 03, 2012, 12:41:09 PM
Just in the last year, I re-played Baldur's Gate, I never finished it the first time, and completed for the first time Planscape Torment. Both excellent games even today and I'm occasionally re-visiting Icewind Dale 2. I've thought long and hard about buying the whole Might & Magic series from GOG but I don't think I'll live that long. I also confess to missing greatly the original Combat Mission series especially CMBB.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Oche on December 03, 2012, 12:53:11 PM
I'm a frequent revisitor too and not just to PC gaming but also console and arcade. IMHO Replay is value is everything in a game. Nowadays I don't get dragged too easy by eyecandy. I can also live with the graphics of the last 12-14 years with no problem.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 03, 2012, 01:18:53 PM
Talk to Markshot. 
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: eyebiter on December 03, 2012, 01:20:12 PM
Every few years reinstall Master of Magic, Master of Orion 2, Jagged Alliance 2, and X-Com.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Nefaro on December 03, 2012, 01:23:19 PM
I've actually played Railroad Tycoon 2 Platinum (http://store.steampowered.com/app/7620/?snr=1_7_suggest__13) a good amount in the past couple weeks.  It's even older than 2008.  :)  I never realized how much of a victorian-era business 'sim' and builder it was, rather than my old impression of it as just piddling with trains.  :-[   The screen resolution is max'd at 1024x, IIRC, so pulling my monitor up to Retina-Burn Range is the only drawback.

Still.. it's not very click-fest or stressful IMO so it's easy to fire up, which is always nice.

Also done some John Tiller's Battleground Civil War in between, too.  Since JTBG Napoleonic also has the original Age Of Sail included, it's also ready to go.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Nefaro on December 03, 2012, 01:25:54 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 03, 2012, 01:18:53 PM
Talk to Markshot.

LOL yeah.  And get your DOSbox ready!  :P
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Nefaro on December 03, 2012, 01:30:50 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on December 03, 2012, 12:41:09 PM
I've thought long and hard about buying the whole Might & Magic series from GOG but I don't think I'll live that long.

I've enjoyed the Might & Magic 4-5 "World of Xeen" series.  It's definitely old 90s but quite possibly the best first-person party based RPG of the DOS era.  The later ones in the series that have a 3D world (with 2D "billboard" entities in it) lost some of the old-style charm IMO.   I'm gonna eventually jack around with putting one of the Android DOSbox versions on my Kindle Fire and pop M&M4-5 on it since you can use the whole interface via mouse cursor (which is the DOS games that supposedly work best in that environment).
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Martok on December 03, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
I still play a number of games that are 10-15 years old.  Classics rarely get old for me.  :) 

Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Kushan on December 03, 2012, 03:05:25 PM
The only "old" game I revisit from time to time is Morrowind. The only other games I wish I could get running on Win7 64-bit are Star Wars Dark Forces, Dark Forces 2, and Aces of the Pacific. Other then those I tend not to play games older then 2005 or so. I usually don't care what a game looks like as long as the gameplay is good, but I find older games just don't scale right with modern monitor resolutions.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Huw the Poo on December 03, 2012, 03:06:36 PM
Geek, you forgot Shadow Magic!

Yeah, there are some classics I still play, one notable example being Disciples 2 and, indeed, Shadow Magic.  As long as the graphics aren't too terrible (or super-low-res) I'm fine with oldies.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: junk2drive on December 03, 2012, 03:16:41 PM
Old games are like old girlfriends someone said. In my teens I tried that and quickly remembered why we broke up the first time.

I found an old game on CD in the garage. Load it into DVD/CDR tray. Light flashes but nothing appears in My Computer. Did the foil go bad?
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Anguille on December 03, 2012, 03:20:47 PM
I play a lot of old games...i've been playing MOO for almost 20 years now...not as much as i used to but still on a regular basis. Another game i've been playing for 15 years is Civil War Generals 2...nothing similar on the market, unbelievable.
I've just recentely started to play Homeworld I for the first time...tougth and great game...will keep me busy for a while. Afterwards i will be playing O.R.B. (looks superb)...i just started a new game of Birth of the Federation today.

And then there are some games that are still "new" for me, like Sword of the Stars, Children of the Nile or Stronghold 2.

But i am also playing new games...currentely: Gemini Wars, Scourge of War: Chancellorville and Commander: the Great WarG.

For other games i still play, see my signature ;)
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Father Ted on December 03, 2012, 03:21:42 PM
Coincidentally, a couple of days back I got Simcity 2000 to run on my machine.  I had such fond memories of that game and I was worried I'd ruin them, but it's as good as it ever was.  Just terrific pacing.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: MetalDog on December 03, 2012, 07:09:10 PM
I'm usually broke, so old equals play what you've got ;-)

@Anguille:  I have Civil War Generals 2 and I enjoy it, but doesn't it get old?  I mean, playing the grand campaign, if you get one or two outstanding results, everything just seems to go haywire.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Anguille on December 03, 2012, 07:12:23 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on December 03, 2012, 07:09:10 PM
I'm usually broke, so old equals play what you've got ;-)

@Anguille:  I have Civil War Generals 2 and I enjoy it, but doesn't it get old?  I mean, playing the grand campaign, if you get one or two outstanding results, everything just seems to go haywire.

I am not sure. I always play as the Confederates so the odds are usually bad. I am just replaying the battle of Chancellorville as a single battle...(again as Confederate)...tougth tougth.

But i guess that playing the Union is just too easy...so many troops.

And yet, nobody produced a similar game since then...i find this very strange.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: MetalDog on December 03, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
^ I love the game and wish someone would do something similar.  I never played the Confederates.  However, if the Union won too many lopsided battles in a row, the campaign would just be unrecognizable.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: TheCommandTent on December 03, 2012, 08:25:04 PM
I still enjoy playing John Tiller's Campaign Series for some reason it never gets old to me, perhaps because it was my first computer wargame.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Bison on December 03, 2012, 08:27:41 PM
Quote from: TheCommandTent on December 03, 2012, 08:25:04 PM
I still enjoy playing John Tiller's Campaign Series for some reason it never gets old to me, perhaps because it was my first computer wargame.

Me too brother.  I love JTCS.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Gusington on December 03, 2012, 09:06:43 PM
The two older games I go back to the most are Thief (each of them) and Medieval 2 Total War.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: jomni on December 03, 2012, 09:24:33 PM
Microsoft Flight Simulator X.  The add-on market keeps the game fresh.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Boggit on December 03, 2012, 10:21:45 PM
I play my older games all the time. If a game is good and fun, then it stays on my hard drive. The sad thing is when the new OS's screw up compatibility, but what can you do? (other than use dosbox or a re-model of a classic)
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Anguille on December 04, 2012, 03:25:01 AM
Quote from: MetalDog on December 03, 2012, 07:18:12 PM
^ I love the game and wish someone would do something similar.  I never played the Confederates.  However, if the Union won too many lopsided battles in a row, the campaign would just be unrecognizable.

The problem is that the AI is good at offensive strategies but doen't apply well defensive strategies...which is deadly for the Confederation troops...
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Windigo on December 04, 2012, 11:22:00 AM
Total Annihilation
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Jack Nastyface on December 04, 2012, 01:00:39 PM
I still haven't got around to replacing my now-deceased gaming laptop with a new rig, so I am somewhat limited in my gaming choices, so old games are frequent choices for me.  I finally got around to playing AND finishing the NATO and Resistance campaigns in Operartion Flashpoint and enjoyed it immensely (only had to use the "savegame" cheat on ONE mission).  I also play IL-2:1946 on a fairly regular basis...it still holds up as a good (great) WWII sim.  Perhaps the "oldests" game I regularly play is Flight Commander II ,Red Baron II, SWAT3 (and SWAT4).  Very rarely, I will also start up Chuck Yeagar's Air Combat in DosBOX.

I would also have included Steel Beasts and Close Combat: A Bridge too Far in this list, but recently bought the upgrades so they don't see time on my hard-drive anymore.

Jack "it's the man, not the machine" Nastyface
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Longdan on December 04, 2012, 01:14:42 PM
Pong is boring now
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Barthheart on December 04, 2012, 01:21:16 PM
Quote from: Longdan on December 04, 2012, 01:14:42 PM
Pong is boring now

Burn the Heretic!  >:(
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: bob48 on December 04, 2012, 02:13:27 PM
Ooh, Heretic was a decent game.
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Barthheart on December 04, 2012, 02:14:58 PM
^ ;D
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Windigo on December 04, 2012, 03:25:11 PM
Quote from: bob48 on December 04, 2012, 02:13:27 PM
Ooh, Heretic was a decent game.

My son played it, but I was an unbeliever....
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: bob48 on December 04, 2012, 03:55:12 PM
^I saw what you did there!
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: Windigo on December 04, 2012, 03:57:19 PM
Quote from: bob48 on December 04, 2012, 03:55:12 PM
^I saw what you did there!

He's on 2nd....
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: eyebiter on December 04, 2012, 06:43:40 PM
Quote from: Windigo on December 04, 2012, 03:57:19 PM
Quote from: bob48 on December 04, 2012, 03:55:12 PM
^I saw what you did there!

He's on 2nd....

Hexen?
Title: Re: Oldies but Goodies and replayability
Post by: ComradeP on December 08, 2012, 09:53:17 AM
QuoteHowever, if the Union won too many lopsided battles in a row, the campaign would just be unrecognizable.

The Union campaign is mostly historical, the main hypotheticals are for the Confederates. The variants of most battles are quite balanced. You can get an advantage or two if you won a major victory in a previous battle, but that's about it. It's also nearly impossible to win a major victory in some battles to begin with, just like their historical counterparts.

Playing as the Confederates is enjoyable up to the point where you get to battles where the Union has 20-30 artillery units.