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Title: Recycling Boneyard planes for Firefighting
Post by: Con on December 23, 2012, 09:54:17 AM
I was reading a fascinating article on this

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/23/16073369-despite-warnings-aging-firefighting-aircraft-still-flying-and-crashing?lite

Turns out that we have no money to build new planes and that we are sending pilots up in 50 year old airframes that are not designed to do this job.  The clip below is a horrifyingly real example of what happens when you do this.       I've watched it a couple of times and it still seems like something out of a film and not where a people died.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bDNCac2N1o

Those firefighting pilots have balls of steel to be climbing into planes older than themselves to do this job

Con
Title: Re: Recycling Boneyard planes for Firefighting
Post by: MIGMaster on December 23, 2012, 11:16:58 AM
See a lot of old dive bombers in use in Eastern/Atlantic Canada.
Title: Re: Recycling Boneyard planes for Firefighting
Post by: eyebiter on December 23, 2012, 12:22:11 PM
Fighting fires using any aircraft (plane or helicopter) is a dangerous business.  Low to the ground, limited visibility, uncertain weather, heavy payload.

This might be a good area to test an unmanned firefighting drone.  Twin engine, STOL, with the ability to carry a large payload, ability to operate in all weather conditions.
Title: Re: Recycling Boneyard planes for Firefighting
Post by: TheCommandTent on December 23, 2012, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: eyebiter on December 23, 2012, 12:22:11 PM

This might be a good area to test an unmanned firefighting drone.  Twin engine, STOL, with the ability to carry a large payload, ability to operate in all weather conditions.

Now that is a good idea, however, the problem is how to pay for it.
Title: Re: Recycling Boneyard planes for Firefighting
Post by: Gusington on December 24, 2012, 01:43:31 PM
That C-130 clip is terrifying.
Title: Re: Recycling Boneyard planes for Firefighting
Post by: TheCommandTent on December 24, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: Gusington on December 24, 2012, 01:43:31 PM
That C-130 clip is terrifying.

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