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Title: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: steve58 on December 26, 2012, 04:36:24 PM
 We Don't Want Piers Morgan Back (http://www.prisonplanet.com/brits-petition-government-we-dont-want-piers-morgan-back.html)

...can't say as I blame them  ::)

Original WH petition (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-british-citizen-piers-morgan-attacking-2nd-amendment/prfh5zHD?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl)
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: Longdan on December 26, 2012, 05:05:08 PM
I do not care for the guy at all.  There is a lot of historical justification
for kicking a guy out of your country if he says stuff you do not like.
Especially if he makes you think about stuff or if listening to him
drives you into a sort of blind rage.  You know, kinda like Limbaugh or
Hannity or O'Reilly do for me.  Takes all kinds I think.  If I didn't like you
guys I wouldn't bother telling you what I think, would I?
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: LongBlade on December 26, 2012, 05:30:34 PM
Meh.

The beauty of the 1st Amendment is that he is welcome to be as big an idiot as he so chooses. If folks didn't keep reminding me, I'd forget he even exists.
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on December 26, 2012, 06:02:57 PM
I thought the argument that Jones was making with the petition was that Morgan wasn't a US citizen and that there was a provision for chucking out agents provocateurs if they were agitating for sedition.  Did Morgan become a citizen?
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: jejo68 on December 27, 2012, 03:50:33 AM
You should always be wary of telling citizens in another country what to do or think. you may suggest alternatives but thats about it.

Now coming from a british telling US citizens to get rid of guns, thats just rich considering the two countries shared history.

The fact that the supervilain in hollywood films almost always talk with british accent cant be a coincident  ;D
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2012, 06:49:33 AM
Quote from: jejo68 on December 27, 2012, 03:50:33 AMThe fact that the supervilain in hollywood films almost always talk with british accent cant be a coincident  ;D

pick up at the 3:02 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMBgG976EZQ

warning: language NSFW, but visuals are OK. Put on headphones and you'll be fine
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: LongBlade on December 27, 2012, 09:29:16 AM
Quote from: jejo68 on December 27, 2012, 03:50:33 AM
Now coming from a british telling US citizens to get rid of guns, thats just rich considering the two countries shared history.

Ha! Good point :)
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: LongBlade on December 27, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
<chuckle>

Quote"It's not very difficult, this," Steyn continued. "How much longer are Americans going to have to put up with some snooty, hoity-toity foreigner coming on the airwaves and telling them everything that's wrong with their country? Why should Americans have to put up with that? It's completely ridiculous. President [George W.] Bush used to talk about the jobs Americans can't do, why do we need to bring in some snooty foreigner with some annoying accent to just go on and tell Americans everything. Can't Americans point out what's wrong with their country on their own? Has it come to this — that we've got to import a special worker class to tell you Americans everything that sucks about America? That's now a job for foreigners? This is ridiculous."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/26/mark-steyn-sounds-off-on-cnns-piers-morgan/
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: steve58 on December 27, 2012, 10:05:09 AM
^I really like Mark Steyn.  For a Canadian, he gets it more than most Americans...
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: Longdan on December 27, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
That is just because he talks like an American....
"snooty, hoity-toity foreigner"..."annoying accent" telling AMERICANS what to do!!!!!!
Welllll as a Kanookistani I can tell you a bit about foreigners with annoying
accents telling us what to do.  All the time.  Each summer the invasion was
met with civility, clear directions to the border and ample warning about the
antics of Homeland Security. There was a time not so long ago when we would have
willingly thrown our first born under the wheels of their motor homes.
Mark Steyn is a good columnist.  Piers Anthony is annoying.
Throw the foreigner out.  That is usually the message from the immigrants who got
there five minutes before the foreigner.
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: Martok on December 27, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on December 26, 2012, 05:30:34 PM
The beauty of the 1st Amendment is that he is welcome to be as big an idiot as he so chooses.
That's pretty much my take on it as well.  It's not like he's going to sway many folks with what he says anyway, so why go to all that effort to kick him out? 






Quote from: jejo68 on December 27, 2012, 03:50:33 AM
Now coming from a british telling US citizens to get rid of guns, thats just rich considering the two countries shared history.
The irony of this was not lost on me either.  :P 


Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: bob48 on December 27, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: jejo68 on December 27, 2012, 03:50:33 AM
You should always be wary of telling citizens in another country what to do or think. you may suggest alternatives but thats about it.

Now coming from a british telling US citizens to get rid of guns, thats just rich considering the two countries shared history.

The fact that the supervilain in hollywood films almost always talk with british accent cant be a coincident  ;D

It should also be clear that he is speaking as an individual, and stating his opinion, and not making a statement on behalf of all British people.

Just sayin'
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: LongBlade on December 27, 2012, 02:04:08 PM
Quote from: bob48 on December 27, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
It should also be clear that he is speaking as an individual, and stating his opinion, and not making a statement on behalf of all British people.

Just sayin'

Of course :)
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: undercovergeek on December 27, 2012, 04:33:33 PM
That and he's a cock and we don't want him back either

There is an often misconstrued urban myth over here that americans don't understand irony..... To prove them all wrong, and him, please shoot him
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: Longdan on December 27, 2012, 04:34:34 PM
That irony is just so profound.
I wonder where an Iraqi or an Afghan
would find it?  Let alone a Kanookistani.
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 28, 2012, 02:21:48 AM
I dont know if youve earned the right to make fun of Canadistanians even if you are one.
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: Longdan on December 28, 2012, 10:59:08 AM
I don't know what that means.
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: jejo68 on December 29, 2012, 05:57:04 AM
Just talked to a friend of mine about gun control

He proposed you guys make a gun free zone around the president and send home security. If that works you can make gunfree zones in all schools.

Just a thought  :)
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: LongBlade on December 29, 2012, 08:20:30 AM
Yeah, jejo, the irony of that has been noted elsewhere.

Guys on TV calling for gun control work in high rise buildings protected by people...with guns. They don't own guns because they can afford to hire people to carry them. Not everyone has that luxury.
Title: Re: A Man Without a Country? :)
Post by: Longdan on December 29, 2012, 12:35:21 PM
Face it boys.  There are some idiots and hypocrites and defectives and homosexuals and dirtbags
who want gun control.  There are some idiots and hypocrites and defectives and homosexuals and
dirtbags who want total gun freedom.  Desiring one or the other does not put a person into one
of those categories or another.  Most people want something in between.  Nobody here agrees
everyone should have access to any gun they choose.  Nobody here agrees that nobody should
be allowed access to firearms.  So it appears to be a matter of degree.
That there is so much name calling and outright vituperation indicates this is a very EMOTIONALLY
charged debate hence VERY short on rational thought.
There is an old canard in Kannookistan: "Never attempt to discuss gunlaw with an American."
It is like religion and politics at the dinner table.