https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/TU00323
Ok - I am suffering from a little trepidation for this - though a bit excited.
I've never built a tank before...always aircraft...but I do LOVE the Challenger 2 so I've taken a chance with this. I did get the cheaper option as I've never done one in case I balls it up - the Tamiya one was about £40!
I promise I will finish my P-40 before I start this.
I buy most of my models from Hannants - BUT - it really annoys me that you can't find out what paints are required. I know people might want to make different makes - but as is this model, it's a specific model on a specific theatre - so they could tell me what paints to use. As it is, I had to guess!
trumpeter makes very good kits and are just about at the level of tamyia without the price.
if you havent found it yet I recommend checking out http://missing-lynx.com . lots of tips and tricks for the armor modeler.
heres the gallery post for your exact model:
http://missing-lynx.com/gallery/modern/challengerii_dlee.htm
and a link from there search engine:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/search
now step away for the plane and join the dark side.
Very Cool JD.. Tanks are great, cause if you screw up.. just hide it with weathering!!! :o
Quote from: Tuna on December 31, 2012, 04:36:44 PM
Very Cool JD.. Tanks are great, cause if you screw up.. just hide it with weathering!!! :o
QFT!
Quote from: Tuna on December 31, 2012, 04:36:44 PM
Very Cool JD.. Tanks are great, cause if you screw up.. just hide it with weathering!!! :o
Or combat damage! 8)
Looking forward to seeing you build this JD!
QFT?
And thanks for the links GDS - I think - that looks amazing and I'm filled with even more trepidation!
Nevermind - found it!
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 01, 2013, 04:31:33 AM
QFT?
Quoted for Truth.
I'm looking forward to seeing this built, too :)
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on December 31, 2012, 02:48:40 PM
heres the gallery post for your exact model:
http://missing-lynx.com/gallery/modern/challengerii_dlee.htm
What are the white panels on the turret front? Don't think I've seen those on a Challenger 2 before.
My guess would be add on armour panels to protect against RPGs fired from higher up, such as in multi-story buildings. At that angle all sloping benefit would be lost.
I think I just found it, they're CIPs ( Combat Identification Panels or Coalition Identification Panels).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Identification_Panel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Identification_Panel)
http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/35274challenger2/index.htm
Interesting find. Still, it looks as if the CIPs are louvered. The panels on the Challenger's turret front are smooth. The side ones look to match the CIP design though
Quote from: Staggerwing on January 01, 2013, 11:49:59 AM
Interesting find. Still, it looks as if the CIPs are louvered. The panels on the Challenger are smooth.
I think they just painted the louvered vents on the side and rear for ID purposes. The panels on the front are flat, and must be add-ons.
Learn something new and all that...
Sorry, I had edited my post while you were still quoting. I tried to make it a little clearer after a good look at the CIP links, esp. the first one, that you found.
Question for anyone who has made an AFV
When do you melt the tracks?
It's not totally clear in the instructions - one minute your putting the wheels on, the next picture has the track on. So - do you melt the track to stick them together and then "stretch" it over the wheels, or do you put the track on the wheels and then melt the connections together?
silly rabbit...
you get modelkasten metal tracks and pin the tracks together so they sag right.
with plastic track you do the bottom first and then go up around the drive sprocket in individual steps.
the you do the top run and any errors get corrected around the main return roller.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scalemodelguide.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F07%2FModelkasten_tracks.jpg&hash=c68bcd193865fd7c8cd5359a716a4bee1f88227c)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhyperscale.com%2Ffeatures%2F2002%2Fimages%2Ftri35003track1.jpg&hash=b01bad7e320815e6ca3e9911b6a132fb31f300cb)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhistorymill.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F04%2Ftracks0a5.jpg&hash=8a857900ab2cd6b621e8ee16a118a3488597d282)
and just to quote Windy on his last date:
"its not as hard as it looks"
I could only find these for the Challenger 2... http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AB3523 ...which look fine on the box (black pads) but I found this... http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/bronco/ab3523.html ... which shows painting (alot) required
Way too much work - especially from a painting pov. I don't have a spray gun remember so each of these pieces (and pads) would have to be individually painted!
I think I'll stick with the stock track for my first attempt. It is only a Trumpeter version...besides I'm nto really into modelling (at the moment) the way the hard core go...I'm quite happy with "out the box" models and the best paint job I can give it. I don't do 100% accuracy, I don't do competition modelling and I don't do "additions"...but never say never..just not now.
I've never done an AFV - I don't want to be put off doing more by connecting 504 little parts together.
But thanks for the info. I will keep it in mind should I get the urge to do more with my models...but tbh I'll be lucky if this turns out nice anyway. I got the box today and there is MUCH more detail to it that a WWII aircraft. It's going to take some time
tanks always have more little parts. thats the joy!
Im sure theres a tutorial on missing lynx.
I didn't know Modelkasten made Metal tracks now? When I was modeling it was Fruilmodel or something like that.. very expensive, but the were very cool!!!
Gotta get that airbrush Judge, it's a whole next step in the hobby!
no no, modelkasten are still all plastic. the metal picture is fruil.
I just wanted to show him options.