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Digital Gaming => Computer Gaming => Topic started by: Longdan on January 07, 2013, 10:46:57 AM

Title: Ubi soft
Post by: Longdan on January 07, 2013, 10:46:57 AM
Does anyone else have a problem with Ubisoft?
Why is it easier to get a pirated Ubisoft game for free than it is to download and install a legitimate purchased copy of the same game?
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Martok on January 07, 2013, 11:05:57 AM
I think it's safe to say a lot of folks (including here) have a problem with Ubisoft.  They're even worse than EA these days, which takes some doing. 


Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Anguille on January 07, 2013, 11:17:55 AM
Because they are french? "ducks"  ;D
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Gusington on January 07, 2013, 11:18:05 AM
They're better than they were a few years ago...DRM for Assassin's Creed is becoming less draconian as the years go by.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Longdan on January 07, 2013, 12:25:59 PM
The game came with 2 sets of codes, only one of which was needed.
After I connected and, of course, used the wrong one I was disconnected
immediately after being told I had only four tries remaining.  Second reconnect
same thing but I must have typoed (fairly bad dyslexia here) because on the
third try it worked.  Never got asked for the first code ever.
This is a game I bought from GG on sale because I had purchased an original
at full price from a store and misplaced the slip of paper with the code.
Hard drive upgrade and tuff tits no code goodbye from Ubisoft.
It is a measure of my powerlessness that I had to buy again.
My son said "Dad you are stupid.  They already raped you."
Then he showed me where it was free.  Pirated of course and I won't do that
but where is my incentive not to?
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Gusington on January 07, 2013, 12:37:57 PM
Incentive? HA. As your son said they already got all they need from you. And they are better than they were but are still the worst out there when it comes to DRM.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: eyebiter on January 07, 2013, 01:20:21 PM
Silent hunter 4 will be my last Ubisoft game.  Even when they were selling SH5 for $1 on their online service, not worth the DRM / Ubisoft account hassles.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Sigma One on January 07, 2013, 01:33:59 PM
I got Far Cry 3 as a gift for myself since I had installed a new graphics card to replace my dying one. Boy was that a pain in the rear to get it running, let alone to run not only through Steam, but through Ubisoft's own launcher. Not to mention there have been issues with some of Nvidia's drivers causing some games not to launch, I can see why some times a console is appreciated.

Of course, PC is where my strategy game heart lies, can't lose that :)
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Greybriar on January 07, 2013, 03:02:45 PM
From another thread:

Quote from: FarAway Sooner on January 05, 2013, 03:56:59 PM
Caveat emptor. 

So long as we keep buying the games with DRM we don't like, they'll keep making the games with DRM we don't like.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Longdan on January 07, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
Now that is true GB but we often do not know how bad it will be
until they already have our money.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Greybriar on January 07, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Longdan on January 07, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
Now that is true GB but we often do not know how bad it will be
until they already have our money.

That's why I always check what the DRM is before I buy a game. For instance, my latest discovery is that Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-F3GOTYE/fallout-3-game-of-the-year-edition) not only requires Steam to play, but also Games For Windows - Live. It looks like overkill to me and I won't be buying it.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: eyebiter on January 07, 2013, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: Greybriar on January 07, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Longdan on January 07, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
Now that is true GB but we often do not know how bad it will be
until they already have our money.

That's why I always check what the DRM is before I buy a game. For instance, my latest discovery is that Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-F3GOTYE/fallout-3-game-of-the-year-edition) not only requires Steam to play, but also Games For Windows - Live. It looks like overkill to me and I won't be buying it.

FYI If you want to play Fallout 3 you can either

1) create a local account on your computer with GFWL

2) or install the Games for Windows LIVE Disabler
http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/1086
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Longdan on January 07, 2013, 06:05:38 PM
Thank you so much. GFWL is the fornicating devil himself.....in my opinion.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Huw the Poo on January 07, 2013, 06:10:00 PM
As discussed in a previous thread, this is why I won't buy any more Kalypso games.  They're on the blacklist along with Ubisoft, EA and anything that requires GFWL.

DRM in general is wank, but what really pisses me off is needing an internet connection to play a single-player game.  I'll never buy those games, no matter how tempting Anno 2070 or Diablo 3 look.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: steve58 on January 07, 2013, 06:17:20 PM
Quote from: eyebiter on January 07, 2013, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: Greybriar on January 07, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Longdan on January 07, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
Now that is true GB but we often do not know how bad it will be
until they already have our money.

That's why I always check what the DRM is before I buy a game. For instance, my latest discovery is that Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-F3GOTYE/fallout-3-game-of-the-year-edition) not only requires Steam to play, but also Games For Windows - Live. It looks like overkill to me and I won't be buying it.

FYI If you want to play Fallout 3 you can either

1) create a local account on your computer with GFWL

2) or install the Games for Windows LIVE Disabler
http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/1086

Thanks Eyebiter, are there versions of this disabler for other GFWL games???
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Greybriar on January 07, 2013, 07:11:18 PM
Thanks Eyebiter.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Nefaro on January 07, 2013, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: eyebiter on January 07, 2013, 04:54:25 PM


FYI If you want to play Fallout 3 you can either

1) create a local account on your computer with GFWL

2) or install the Games for Windows LIVE Disabler
http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/1086

Oddly enough - wasn't there some Games For Windows Live DRM bug that caused people to have to disable the damn thing to get their game to work, at one point?

Buggy DRM is just all too common.  :-\

Hell, Ubi had to disable the Fade-style DRM on Silent Hunter 4 in the first or second update, because it was getting false positives on legitimate customers and screwing up their gameplay.  ::)
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Toonces on January 07, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
Quote from: eyebiter on January 07, 2013, 01:20:21 PM
Silent hunter 4 will be my last Ubisoft game.  Even when they were selling SH5 for $1 on their online service, not worth the DRM / Ubisoft account hassles.

This +1.   >:(
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Arctic Blast on January 08, 2013, 01:21:56 AM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on January 07, 2013, 06:10:00 PM
As discussed in a previous thread, this is why I won't buy any more Kalypso games.  They're on the blacklist along with Ubisoft, EA and anything that requires GFWL.

DRM in general is wank, but what really pisses me off is needing an internet connection to play a single-player game.  I'll never buy those games, no matter how tempting Anno 2070 or Diablo 3 look.

See, this makes absolutely no sense to me. Let's see that down the road, one of these companies completely changes their policy and goes DRM free. what, you're still going to boycott them even though they're now making the decision to go in a direction you like? Are you saying you won't ever buy a single game any of these companies has available on GOG, even though those are entirely DRM free, because you disagree with their method on other platforms?
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Huw the Poo on January 08, 2013, 01:37:33 AM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on January 08, 2013, 01:21:56 AM
See, this makes absolutely no sense to me. Let's see that down the road, one of these companies completely changes their policy and goes DRM free. what, you're still going to boycott them even though they're now making the decision to go in a direction you like? Are you saying you won't ever buy a single game any of these companies has available on GOG, even though those are entirely DRM free, because you disagree with their method on other platforms?

What?  If they stop using DRM of course I'll start buying their games again.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Arctic Blast on January 08, 2013, 02:31:45 PM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on January 08, 2013, 01:37:33 AM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on January 08, 2013, 01:21:56 AM
See, this makes absolutely no sense to me. Let's see that down the road, one of these companies completely changes their policy and goes DRM free. what, you're still going to boycott them even though they're now making the decision to go in a direction you like? Are you saying you won't ever buy a single game any of these companies has available on GOG, even though those are entirely DRM free, because you disagree with their method on other platforms?

What?  If they stop using DRM of course I'll start buying their games again.

D'oh! Sorry, Huw. I forgot I was actually having this discussion with rational people.

Normally, the answer I would get to those questions is "Exactly! Never again. That'll show em."  ::)
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Huw the Poo on January 08, 2013, 02:58:51 PM
Hehe, no worries mate! :)
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Gusington on January 09, 2013, 08:09:54 AM
WTF is this? A DRM discussion without peeps trying to gauge each other's eyes out? Inconceivable.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: FarAway Sooner on January 09, 2013, 09:10:38 AM
I specifically refused to buy Heroes VI, despite aggressive lobbying from my wife, because the DRM sucked so badly and made it impossible to play multi-player hotseat with full game functionality without buying multiple licenses.  I get pirating and DRM, but when a company starts driving a consistently poor user experience to protect against piracy, they have to realize that they'll lose some customers.

It's pretty much made me not even look at titles from Ubi unless they're released DRM-free somewhere like GoG.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: W8taminute on January 09, 2013, 10:19:03 AM
Wow much hate for Ubisoft.  I have to admit though, I don't have an PC games from this company.  My only two titles I have are for XBOX and there are no DRM issues there.  Far Cry 3 is probably very close to beating Skyrim as...best...game...eva.  Seriously it's that good.  The other game I have is Ghost Recon: Future Soldier.  Great game.

But I probably won't be getting any of their games for PC though based on what you guys are saying.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Longdan on January 09, 2013, 10:51:56 AM
The problem is they have some good games.  It should just be
MORE trouble to steal than buy.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Huw the Poo on January 09, 2013, 01:51:23 PM
Yeah I agree completely with FarAway Sooner and Longdan.  Use DRM if you must, but as soon as it starts being a real inconvenience to me as a paying customer, I'll stop buying your games.  It's bloody stupid that "pirates" get a better (and in some cases even a more complete) experience than those of us who pay with our hard-earned cash.

Christ, I can rarely afford to buy a game these days, and I could so easily just torrent them instead but I refuse to.  Being rewarded for my morals with crappy DRM that has a real, detrimental effect on my experience is a massive slap in the face.  As such, I won't do business with these companies.  My principles mean more to me than the latest Best Game Evar!
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Arctic Blast on January 09, 2013, 02:35:09 PM
I dunno, I haven't really had any issues. Game shows up in the Ubi client, I play it. Done.
Title: Re: Ubi soft
Post by: Longdan on January 09, 2013, 03:41:47 PM
I wish ^^.