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Title: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Shelldrake on January 30, 2013, 11:14:15 AM
Among the 550 LAV IIIs to be upgraded are a number that were used in Afghanistan. In this case I suspect that rebuilt is a more accurate description given the hard use that these vehicles experienced.

http://vanguardcanada.com/general-dynamics-land-systems-canada-delivers-first-upgraded-lav-iii/ (http://vanguardcanada.com/general-dynamics-land-systems-canada-delivers-first-upgraded-lav-iii/)

According to DND...
QuoteThe following upgrades will be performed on the LAV III:

•Upgrade of mobility systems such as powertrain, suspension, running gear and brakes;
•Upgrade of the weapon system; and
•Installation of additional armour, heightening its protection against increased threats.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/mobil/news-nouvelles-eng.asp?id=3037 (http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/mobil/news-nouvelles-eng.asp?id=3037)
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Longdan on January 30, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
I have not kept up to speed much since parting company with that organisation in 1975.
We had Greb combat boots (some with laces) and some broken down M113's.  Gotta love Trudeau.
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 30, 2013, 12:01:49 PM
^^ and spears, right?  y'all each got issued 2 spears in lieu of actual weaponry, eh?
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Barthheart on January 30, 2013, 12:14:16 PM
Hey now, we're a little more up scale than that..... we got blow guns!  :P
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: LongBlade on January 30, 2013, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on January 30, 2013, 12:14:16 PM
Hey now, we're a little more up scale than that..... we got blow guns!  :P

Blow guns. Like Windy's farts: silent but deadly.
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Longdan on January 30, 2013, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on January 30, 2013, 12:01:49 PM
^^ and spears, right?  y'all each got issued 2 spears in lieu of actual weaponry, eh?
We had a good serviceable battle rifle and some good training and a bunch of worn out
US equipment.  We had dummy LAW's and once in a while somebody could shoot off a
Carl Gustav RL!  Many went South for real work after discharge.
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: MIGMaster on January 31, 2013, 11:52:18 AM
Read a great article in Legion Magazine on how Trudeau raped the Cdn military while he was in power. Man, that magazine has certainly improved over the years - very professional now with great info. Just about as good as Canadian Defence Review
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Shelldrake on January 31, 2013, 01:26:11 PM
Pulled the following from Wiki.

QuoteOn October 21, 2011 the Canadian government announced a $1.1 billion contract to General Dynamics Land Systems to upgrade 550 LAV III combat vehicles. The government said the upgrade is needed to improve protection against mines and improvised explosive devices (IEDs), which have been the cause of a number of Canadian deaths in Afghanistan. The improvements will also extend the service of the vehicles up to 2035 and will boost troop mobility. The upgrades include a new and more powerful engine, increased armour protection, steering and brake systems. The turret hatches on the LAV III would be made larger and improved fire control, thermal, day and low-light sights, and data displays. The weight of the vehicle would increase from 38,000 pounds (17,000 kg) to 55,000 pounds (25,000 kg).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAV_III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAV_III)

If the article is accurate the upgraded LAV IIIs will weigh almost 50% more than the originals! Depending on how the increased weight is distributed this may make the upgraded version even more prone to roll-overs.

More information and nice pics at this link.

http://www.casr.ca/bg-army-armour-lav-upgrade.htm (http://www.casr.ca/bg-army-armour-lav-upgrade.htm)
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on January 31, 2013, 02:10:33 PM
No Way!?
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Longdan on January 31, 2013, 08:02:45 PM
Its Canada.  Maybe they figure if it is top heavy it won't slide around on the ice so much...
you know - weight up top because it is slippery on the bottom....won't skid, just tip over.
Friend of mine died in an M113 roll over..no open coffin for that one!
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Pinetree on February 07, 2013, 03:08:57 AM
Quote from: Longdan on January 30, 2013, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on January 30, 2013, 12:01:49 PM
^^ and spears, right?  y'all each got issued 2 spears in lieu of actual weaponry, eh?
We had a good serviceable battle rifle and some good training and a bunch of worn out
US equipment.  We had dummy LAW's and once in a while somebody could shoot off a
Carl Gustav RL!  Many went South for real work after discharge.

Sounds exactly like my time in the NZ Army back in the early '90s except ours was worn out Aussie gear. We had DPM uniforms that would fade after one wash and look like stone-washed jeans. Our wet-weather gear was called "stay wets" as they were just rubber and you would sweat a bucket in them. No flash gore-tex for us. ;D
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Centurion40 on February 08, 2013, 10:19:50 AM
I remember my first field exercise in 1980.  We ate Vietnam-era US rations, probably purchased at a huge discount.
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Shelldrake on February 08, 2013, 11:32:21 AM
Quote from: Centurion40 on February 08, 2013, 10:19:50 AM
I remember my first field exercise in 1980.  We ate Vietnam-era US rations, probably purchased at a huge discount.

Mmmmm....canned bacon and eggs!
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Centurion40 on February 08, 2013, 01:27:07 PM
And a green can at that!!  :)

I was partial to that tin of meat with some of those crackers.  We used those peanut butter pucks as weapons.
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Windigo on February 08, 2013, 03:03:42 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on January 30, 2013, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on January 30, 2013, 12:14:16 PM
Hey now, we're a little more up scale than that..... we got blow guns!  :P

Blow guns. Like Windy's farts: silent but deadly.

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Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: besilarius on February 08, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Hot Dogs and Lima Beans.
These were so despised, that in I Corps in Vietnam, the Gunney Sergeants would turn the case over, and make their troopers pick one without being able to see the name.
Some guys were unhappy with the regular bayonet, which was I think about six inches long.  So they'd buy a long screwdriver, and get the machine shop to put a point on it.
Honestly saw guys fighting with those things to avoid Lima Beans and Hot Dogs.
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Longdan on February 08, 2013, 08:42:45 PM
We had a horrible concoction called "Tuna Jumbalaya".  I cannot remember what menu number it was in
but since the field rations were thoroughly pilfered  before they got out of Ottawa (all the Steak and Onions were gone)
we got a lot.  It came in a big tin can.  The only thing it was good for - no matter how hungry you were - was
casually stuffing it into some other guy's cooking fire and waiting for it to explode.  I still remember guys from
7 Platoon running around screaming covered in burning Tuna Jumbalaya.  If a guy ate some you could smell
his marinated dead Jamaican farts a mile away.  When I was overseas in the mid 70's we sometimes got cases
of US rations.  Beans and Motherf*ckers I can remember.
Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Martok on February 09, 2013, 01:22:44 PM
Quote from: Longdan on February 08, 2013, 08:42:45 PM
We had a horrible concoction called "Tuna Jumbalaya". 
Dear god, you know just from the name that it's wrong.  Those two words should never, ever go together. 

Title: Re: Canadian Armed Forces receive upgraded LAV III
Post by: Longdan on February 09, 2013, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: Martok on February 09, 2013, 01:22:44 PM
Quote from: Longdan on February 08, 2013, 08:42:45 PM
We had a horrible concoction called "Tuna Jumbalaya". 
Dear god, you know just from the name that it's wrong.  Those two words should never, ever go together.

The subtitle was "Feast of Jamaica" or something.  That was when there were like two Jamaicans in Canada.
The recipe looks appealing http://www.recipe4all.com/recipe/Tuna-Jambalaya-1526/

but that ain't the sh*t they gave us.