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Title: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: JasonPratt on February 05, 2013, 09:35:04 AM
It's been about a year since I finished my Skyrim campaign (and I'm definitely busy on other games), but I did want to hear about the upcoming new DLC, so I figured it was easier to start a thread on it and be registered for comments from the outset.  ;D
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Post by: Gusington on February 05, 2013, 10:23:32 AM
I haven't seen any comments or reviews yet but I definitely am interested. I will however try to wait for a bit of a price drop first, like I did with Dawnguard.
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Post by: Sir Slash on February 05, 2013, 11:25:41 AM
Agreed. The consule reviews are good but I also plan to wait for a sale. Unless my resolve weakens which it regularly does. It's $19 at Steam pre-order.
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Post by: Gusington on February 05, 2013, 12:52:42 PM
It should be available in most areas by this evening. 19.00 seems high to me for DLC but at 12 or 13 dollars I am a little more open. That's about what I bought Dawnguard for and I wasn't disappointed. Dragonborn gives me the impression that it is bigger than Dawnguard...thus weakening my resolve a bit :\
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Yskonyn on February 05, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
I am planning to return to Skyrim some day, but Ill go for a discount bundle on the DLC I think.
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Post by: Kushan on February 05, 2013, 02:53:32 PM
I won't get it until Skyrim Redone supports it. I saw a new version of the mod was released today but since there isn't a change log I don't know if it does or not. I still think $20 is a little high for DLC, but my impression from reading the x-box reviews was that dragonborne was significantly bigger then dawnguard. I also don't think I will get it until I'm ready to start a new character, since upgrading major mods like Skyrim Redone usually isn't recommended.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Sigma One on February 05, 2013, 03:11:06 PM
I haven't touched Skyrim in a while, due to time, but I think I'll wait for a bundle of the DLC's first. Although I'm worried that it'll most likely be in a Gold edition rather than a DLC bundle.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Toonces on February 05, 2013, 04:00:38 PM
I'll be paying full price and picking it up.  Skyrim satisfies.   8)
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Post by: TheCommandTent on February 05, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
At the pace I am going by the time I finish everything in my current Skyrim the price will be nice and low and I am sure I will pick it up :)
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 05, 2013, 07:51:33 PM
Sweet we got Toonces on point for this one. Mission accomplished.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Toonces on February 06, 2013, 01:12:00 AM
You guys can count on me for some impressions, although it will be next week probably before I sink my teeth into it.  By then the jungle drums will have given you an idea where this is all going.

For what it's worth anyway, since none of you listened to my thoughts on Dawnguard anyway... ::)
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Post by: Toonces on February 06, 2013, 02:32:43 AM
I know Ghostryder would have a kitten for me saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway:

Skyrim may be the best, most immersive RPG-type video game I have ever played.

I won't say best video game EVAR, because Falcon 4.0, WiTP, M2TW are also great games.  But when I was a kid playing Adventure on my Atari 2600 or Tunnels of Doom on my Ti-99, I never could have imagined playing something like Skyrim.  These guys can have my cash- they deserve it.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 06, 2013, 08:37:53 AM
I agree with you. If I could only play one game going forward it would not be a.problem if it was Skyrim. I honestly don't remember what you said about Dawnguard but I enjoyed myself and got my money's worth.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: JasonPratt on February 06, 2013, 09:55:10 AM
Quote from: ScottP on February 05, 2013, 03:11:06 PM
I haven't touched Skyrim in a while, due to time, but I think I'll wait for a bundle of the DLC's first. Although I'm worried that it'll most likely be in a Gold edition rather than a DLC bundle.

One nice thing about Steam, they usually provide DLC discounts independently in purchase; and tend to discount items in groups at the same time. Not always, but usually. So any deal on Skyrim is likely to include discounts on the DLC which can be purchased separately from the main program.
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Post by: JasonPratt on February 06, 2013, 09:58:48 AM
Also, (https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wargamer.com%2Fforums%2Fsmiley%2Fcharacter0272.gif&hash=e453f9ec4574b81dac0e940a21312703c335c8d2) for Tunnels of Doom on the TI994A!!

(I actually have an irrational lust to play that game again now, despite knowing it couldn't possibly be as awesome as I remember it being. :) )
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 06, 2013, 11:42:00 AM
You never know, maybe it could.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: TheCommandTent on February 06, 2013, 08:39:03 PM
I didn't get the DLC but when I logged on to STEAM tonight Skyrim is downloading a 1.5g update.  I looked but couldn't find what is in this update.  Anyone else know?
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Post by: LongBlade on February 06, 2013, 08:47:35 PM
Quote from: TheCommandTent on February 06, 2013, 08:39:03 PM
I didn't get the DLC but when I logged on to STEAM tonight Skyrim is downloading a 1.5g update.  I looked but couldn't find what is in this update.  Anyone else know?

January 17 there was a client update. That's not today. I'll keep digging. Here are the release notes from the 17th:

QuoteChanges:
- Added list of favorite and popular Guides to overlay
- Fixed layout of installation wizard when installing multiple apps.
- Fixed rare occurrence of prompting a user to accept the same Steam Subscriber Agreements multiple times.
- Fixed stopping game installation when pressing cancel button in installation wizard
- Disabled trade menu item in multi-user chats
- Fixed retail disc install error "missing app configuration"
- Big Picture: Added support for notifying the user when logging into an account that has already logged in on another machine
- Big Picture: Fixed bug where chat notifications might not be displayed when in game.
- Big Picture: Fixed possibly displaying multiple countdown timers in the store
- Big Picture: Fixed loading animations disappearing before loading was complete
- Big Picture: Fixed crash when entering Big Picture mode while in a voice chat
- Big Picture: Fixed potentially losing input focus while searching the store
- Big Picture: Fixed size of main menu UI sometimes being incorrect when navigating backward in the store
- Big Picture: Added displaying a list of all DLC for an application in the store
- Big Picture: Fixed copied text range sometimes being incorrect if you selected the text to copy in a backwards direction via the mouse
- Big Picture: Support closing URL open dialog in friends chats with cancel hotkey/button
- Big Picture: Fix favorite counts not updating in all games view when you add/remove favorites prior to next restart
- Big Picture: Fix pending friend invites showing up as background of community rather than actual friends
- Big Picture: Improve perf loading community tab background/friends list
- Big Picture: Fix rendering issue with some panels with rounded corners and box shadows with –fulldesktopres command line param
- Big Picture: When in the main Steam view (not in-game overlay) support clicking notification toasts to activate
- Big Picture: Fix footer in main Steam window being disabled while a game is running even if you alt-tab back out to Steam
- Big Picture: Fixed missing string in delete local content confirmation for applications
- Big Picture: Fixed friend and group chats scrolling to bottom on new message even when you are actively trying to scroll the chat yourself
- Big Picture: Fixed mouse wheel scrolling of carousels sometimes getting stuck on leftmost panel
- Big Picture: Added list of favorite and popular Guides to library and overlay
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: LongBlade on February 06, 2013, 08:52:11 PM
Do I need to sink my fangs into this for you guys? Who's sitting on the fence waiting for a report?
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: TheCommandTent on February 06, 2013, 09:01:06 PM
Im not on the fence I just don't want to buy it until I have at least finish most of the quests in the  base game.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: TheCommandTent on February 06, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
Found it!  Looks like it is just to an update to the free highres texture pack.

QuoteThe Dragonborn DLC hit Steam yesterday, but today Bethesda released something possibly even more interesting: An update to the High Resolution Texture Pack that adds support for Dragonborn as well as the Hearthfire and Dawnguard DLC expansions.

The improved textures make the game look glorious, but the eye candy comes with a steep price tag. If you have the recommended system specs for Skyrim, you can just sit back down, mister, because that's not going to cut it. You'll need a bare minimum of a quad-core CPU, 4GB RAM and a DirectX 9.0c compatible video card with a minimum 1GB RAM, and odds are that if that's all you've got, you'll have at least a few struggles with performance.

On the upside, it's free, which is pretty solid. It's also exclusive to the PC, and more specifically to Steam, and it's a beefy beast: The update to the latest version of the Skyrim hi-res texture pack is a whopping 4.7 GB in size. Got time for that? Then get it at Steam.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121950-Skyrim-Hi-Res-Texture-Pack-Gets-Huge-Update
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 06, 2013, 09:20:09 PM
I'm not on the fence, I'm definitely getting it. When the price drops :)

Unless it is so uber as to draw me into its orbit of awesomeness.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Kushan on February 06, 2013, 10:05:50 PM
Unless Toonces says within the next day or so that its not worth it, I think I'm going to buy it this weekend.

The high res update is downloading now, looks like I'm not playing Skyrim tonight
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: JasonPratt on February 07, 2013, 09:17:28 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on February 06, 2013, 08:52:11 PM
Do I need to sink my fangs into this for you guys? Who's sitting on the fence waiting for a report?

I'm not sitting on the fence exactly, but obviously I'm interested in a report. :)

Edited to add: from you and/or Toonces and/or whoever. I'm slutty not-picky.
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Post by: Sir Slash on February 07, 2013, 10:56:03 AM
I find the fence very comfortable right now. From here I can spot a Half-price sale when it comes around. Kind of like the bandits who wander close to the fire in the caves so you can pick them off with your Flawless Dwarven Bow.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 07, 2013, 11:48:45 AM
Metaphorically delicious!
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Sir Slash on February 07, 2013, 12:48:47 PM
Thank you Good Sir. I'll admit to being mightily tempted by this one especially the new enemies.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 07, 2013, 01:28:06 PM
Early buzz is that it is bigger and badder than Dawnguard but I haven't found any industry reviews yet. By badder I mean more gooder.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Sigma One on February 07, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
I wish companies would release their games in goofy fashions, "Dragonborn DLC, the Gooder One!"
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 07, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
You mean More Gooder...
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Sigma One on February 07, 2013, 03:17:55 PM
Best Gooder.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 07, 2013, 03:51:45 PM
Bestest goodmost? I'll do this all day.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Bison on February 07, 2013, 05:30:08 PM
I've got it installed.  I cannot speak to the actual content of the DLC as far as questline, new monsters, or new dungeons.  However I can say that of the 6 mods that I have installed 1 is definately broken by the new DLC.  It's my lock pick marker mod.  All of the other mods I've got installed ingredient, potion weight reduction, read books, container name, and potion name mods all seem to work fine.

I guess my point is that I know most of you all mod the game much more than I do, so I'd be hesistant to do the upgrade if you are attached to a particular set of mods that have not been declared Dragonborn compatible.
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Post by: Toonces on February 07, 2013, 07:50:36 PM
I just purchased and it's installing now.  I'm going to go do my old-man-shuffle PT and hopefully I'll be able to put some time in this evening.

I have a new level 4 Nord I've been playing, hopefully he's strong enough to start the Dragonborn quests.
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Post by: Toonces on February 07, 2013, 10:37:26 PM
Ok, bought and installed but apparently you have to be up to a certain point in the main quest before you can start it.  No big deal, but it might be a bit before I get there.  I would rather continue with my Level 5 guy than jump back in after all this time with my uber Level 30+ dude.

I'll let you guys know when I start the Dragonborn quest.  I'm on my way to High Hrothgar right now so I don't think I have too long to go before I'm far enough into the main quest...I'll check my guide.
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Post by: TheCommandTent on February 07, 2013, 10:40:23 PM
Quote from: Toonces on February 07, 2013, 10:37:26 PM
Ok, bought and installed but apparently you have to be up to a certain point in the main quest before you can start it.  No big deal, but it might be a bit before I get there.  I would rather continue with my Level 5 guy than jump back in after all this time with my uber Level 30+ dude.

I'll let you guys know when I start the Dragonborn quest.  I'm on my way to High Hrothgar right now so I don't think I have too long to go before I'm far enough into the main quest...I'll check my guide.

Ahh the High Hrothgar quest.  The climb up that mountain the first time and then the view was just awesome.  I did it fairly early in the game and it really set the mood for me.
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Post by: Toonces on February 08, 2013, 12:13:14 AM
I checked by guide and I should be eligible for the Dragonborn questline by this weekend at the latest.  I'll keep you posted.
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Post by: Toonces on February 08, 2013, 01:20:27 AM
And so it begins...that didn't take long at all!   ;D
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Post by: Gusington on February 08, 2013, 09:16:32 PM
Rock Paper Shotgun liked it pretty good. And High Hrothgar is fantastic. I made plenty of desktop backgrounds going up there. Beauteous!
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Post by: Toonces on February 09, 2013, 03:27:05 PM
Ok, so my first foray into Solthsteim or however you say it was interesting.

The short version was that I got my ass kicked, repeatedly, so I've backtracked to Skyrim.

I posted on the Steam forums and I am WAY too low level for Dragonborn.  There are guys in the 35-50 level that are barely comfortable and my guy is only up to level 8 now.  I don't want to boot up my old guy so I'm going to have to wait until I get buffed up a bit more before I tackle Dragonborn some more.  It will be sitting there waiting for me.

On a separate note, I had my first run-in with a vampire while I was playing last night.  Nice to see my Dawnguard DLC kicking in, too.  So travelling at night just got a whole lot more interesting! 

I'm trying to role-play a bit more this go around, trying to minimize my fast travel, wearing Skyrim-themed fur and banded armor, stuff like that.  I was going to try to play through with no magic, but I find myself gravitating to a Spellsword type character again.  Honestly, I don't know how to play any other way.

Well, I guess that's it.  I saw a preview of Dragonborn on Kokatu that was very favorable.  I like that the Morrowind music is in it, and the graphics are fantastic.  It sure would be nice to see all of Morrowind overhauled in the Skyrim engine.
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Post by: LongBlade on February 09, 2013, 05:35:55 PM
Well I bought it and tried to fire it up earlier this afternoon. It brought my video card crashing to its knees begging to be devoured by dragons and failing miserably.

I'm hauling this thing over to best buy. Three time's a charm. There's a new gaming rig in my future.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Kushan on February 09, 2013, 06:30:20 PM
Quote from: Toonces on February 09, 2013, 03:27:05 PM
Well, I guess that's it.  I saw a preview of Dragonborn on Kokatu that was very favorable.  I like that the Morrowind music is in it, and the graphics are fantastic.  It sure would be nice to see all of Morrowind overhauled in the Skyrim engine.

Its already being done, Skywind. Hope it actually gets finished. I personally doubt it. However unlike previous remake mods, bethesda has yet to shut this one down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vru8HIvq_Ek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vru8HIvq_Ek)

I bought Dragonborne this morning. Haven't started it beyond the initial "introduction" as I walked out of the Riverwood Inn.

Edit: Found this for people who may be disappointed with dragon riding in the DLC.
Real-time Dragon fast travel: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/31325 (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/31325)
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Post by: Kushan on February 11, 2013, 12:44:22 AM
Played 3-4 hours today. So far I'm enjoying it. I would suggest not doing it with a low level character. Its actually been a challenge for my level 33 mage. Really love the look of the new armors. Brings back a lot of memories from Morrowind. Story seems pretty cliche so far, but the fights have been fun.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1076.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw458%2FKushan04%2FTESV2013-02-1019-07-59-12.png&hash=d385ae6459177107b8728787323f7a593e17f9ee)

Lydia in her new armor.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1076.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw458%2FKushan04%2FTESV2013-02-1020-43-11-16.png&hash=f9429b4200d3027105a223d425fbd162d1650dea)

Anyone who played Morrowind will know what this is. Unfortunately it can't be used fore fast travel.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1076.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw458%2FKushan04%2FTESV2013-02-1020-44-42-89.png&hash=49b3f1d25d2be76ff20d5f49051520910b45d967)

Red Mountain with a Telvannia Mushroom tower

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1076.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw458%2FKushan04%2FTESV2013-02-1020-37-44-79.png&hash=93894ce566cbb7fe4cf835bd4d82225e9c681b82)

Two power mad Dragonborne, that could be fun  ::)
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Kushan on February 13, 2013, 11:52:29 PM
Finished the DB main quest tonight. That last fight was one of the best I've had in the game. Finished it in around 12-14 hours, although I did concentrate almost solely on the main quest with only a little exploring. I think for anyone who is easily distracted in the TES games, might find the DB quests easier to do. Since almost everything is located within such a small area when compared to the main game, it makes it easier to focus. Got the new dragon riding shout but I've only done it once as part of the main quest. You don't get to directly control the dragon, it automatically flies around with you giving it orders to attack. You can cast spells while flying. I found being able to "lock" onto targets a much easier then horse combat. I'm looking forward to trying it back in Skyrim itself and using a dragon to get around.

Whether its worth $20, is up to you. I got my moneys worth, and I think I have at least another 3-4+ hours of side quests and exploring to do.

Some shots of my new robes.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1076.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw458%2FKushan04%2FSkyrim%2FDragonborne%2FTESV2013-02-1320-12-14-71.png&hash=f67ce0a030fa87edd017e57dc3d976a2e7e986b5)

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1076.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw458%2FKushan04%2FSkyrim%2FDragonborne%2FTESV2013-02-1320-11-46-67.png&hash=c1f63101a80cafb5ad41263d6ea65b38ead4342d)
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Rayfer on February 14, 2013, 08:42:53 AM
Nice screenshots Kushan.  I'm just now starting to work my way through the Dawnguard dlc and will do Dragonborn next.  In spite of its flaws (and to me the biggest is the melee combat...the enemies dance and flit around with faster-than-light speed so I play a stealth/archer character) Skyrim remains the game I have enjoyed the most over the past few years.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2013, 08:53:01 AM
Thanks Kushan. Did you enjoy the whole riding around on a dragon thing or were you disappointed? Just curious, I am going to get DB either way, the moment it gets discounted :)
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Kushan on February 14, 2013, 03:19:13 PM
Quote from: Rayfer on February 14, 2013, 08:42:53 AM
Nice screenshots Kushan.  I'm just now starting to work my way through the Dawnguard dlc and will do Dragonborn next.  In spite of its flaws (and to me the biggest is the melee combat...the enemies dance and flit around with faster-than-light speed so I play a stealth/archer character) Skyrim remains the game I have enjoyed the most over the past few years.

Have you thought about downloading Skyrim Redone or ASIS (automatic spells and increased spawns). Both over improved enemy fighting AI. Skyrim redone is a full overhaul of the whole game, but you can use the combat plugin on its own if you don't want the full thing. ASIS is very customizable as well, it makes the enemy AI better as well as give them health, stamina, and magicka potions, as well as new perks based on level.

Skyrim Redone: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9286 (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9286)
ASIS: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18436 (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18436)

Sorry if i seems to always pointing out mods in these threads, but there really is a mod for almost everything you can possibly want.

Quote from: Gusington on February 14, 2013, 08:53:01 AM
Thanks Kushan. Did you enjoy the whole riding around on a dragon thing or were you disappointed? Just curious, I am going to get DB either way, the moment it gets discounted :)

Yea I liked it. A lot of people seem to be disappointed you can't directly fly dragons, but I think the system they have now works better then how the implemented horse combat.  Not having to fly the dragon allows both it and you to attack at the same time, and allows you to focus solely on aiming (if you don't want the dragon to do all the work). And since your not flying the dragon, the aim camera moves independently of where the dragon is flying, which actually makes it possible to hit your target.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2013, 03:51:24 PM
Funny you mention the horse mounted combat...I was quietly disappointed by how it was done too.
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Post by: Kushan on February 14, 2013, 09:07:24 PM
I am as well. I hope Bethesda takes the concept of locking targets and applies it to horse combat, at least with a bow. Melee horse combat works fine. But anything is better then constantly having to dismount every 10 steps as you run into a different group of mobs.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2013, 09:19:39 PM
^Yeah it is really clunky, and I was so looking forward to it being like Mount and Blade.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: LongBlade on February 19, 2013, 03:10:40 PM
Quote from: Toonces on February 08, 2013, 01:20:27 AM
And so it begins...that didn't take long at all!   ;D

OK, it seems to be working fine for me ATM. So does going to High Hrothgar kick off the DLC then?
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Toonces on February 19, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
If you haven't advanced to that part of the main quest, then you have to complete the main quest up to completing the trip to High Hrothgar.  The DLC will kick in at the appropriate point once you head back down the mountain.

If you're not higher level you're not going to get very far in Dragonborn, though.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Kushan on February 19, 2013, 10:44:59 PM
I would suggest not doing it until you have at least 3 dragon souls. Your going to need at least that many to complete the main DB quest.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: LongBlade on February 20, 2013, 09:30:24 AM
Quote from: Toonces on February 19, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
If you haven't advanced to that part of the main quest, then you have to complete the main quest up to completing the trip to High Hrothgar.  The DLC will kick in at the appropriate point once you head back down the mountain.

If you're not higher level you're not going to get very far in Dragonborn, though.

I've got 130 hours into the game and have completed the main quest. Can't figure it out. Maybe a bug?
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: LongBlade on February 20, 2013, 10:01:43 AM
Bing FTW:

QuoteTo start the main questline, you must have at least started the quest The Horn of Jurgen Windcaller.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonborn_%28Quest%29
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: LongBlade on February 20, 2013, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on February 20, 2013, 10:01:43 AM
Bing FTW:

QuoteTo start the main questline, you must have at least started the quest The Horn of Jurgen Windcaller.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragonborn_%28Quest%29

Crap. Still no luck. I can't get the cultists to trigger even though I've completed the Jurgen Windcaller quest.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Toonces on February 20, 2013, 10:25:16 PM
Well, I went to the top of High Hrothgar, completed that little part of the main quest, then walked back down to the bottom, did fast travel to some town, and the Dragonborn quest started when I came out of fast travel and started walking into the city. 

I can't explain your problem.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: LongBlade on February 20, 2013, 10:33:36 PM
Quote from: Toonces on February 20, 2013, 10:25:16 PM
I can't explain your problem.

I'm sure you're not alone.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Toonces on February 20, 2013, 10:35:42 PM
You could google, "Dragonborn quest won't start!" and see what happens.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: LongBlade on February 21, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Toonces on February 20, 2013, 10:35:42 PM
You could google, "Dragonborn quest won't start!" and see what happens.

Now I'm thinking!

Turns out a file isn't loaded properly via Steam. Not sure what to do about that yet, but I'll figure something out.

In the mean time, I'm posting an image of some of the enchanted bow's I've created :)

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj349%2Flongblade%2FGrogHeads%2F2013-02-21_00007_zps33a4677e.jpg&hash=dd800974787147ac6ab456370e40a011a6cfe9b6)
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Kushan on February 21, 2013, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on February 21, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Toonces on February 20, 2013, 10:35:42 PM
You could google, "Dragonborn quest won't start!" and see what happens.

Now I'm thinking!

Turns out a file isn't loaded properly via Steam. Not sure what to do about that yet, but I'll figure something out.


Open the Skyrim Launcher, click on data files, and check to make sure Dragonborn is checked.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: LongBlade on February 21, 2013, 10:54:28 AM
Quote from: Kushan on February 21, 2013, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on February 21, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Toonces on February 20, 2013, 10:35:42 PM
You could google, "Dragonborn quest won't start!" and see what happens.

Now I'm thinking!

Turns out a file isn't loaded properly via Steam. Not sure what to do about that yet, but I'll figure something out.


Open the Skyrim Launcher, click on data files, and check to make sure Dragonborn is checked.

<chuckle> That was amazing! It was *not* checked. I'd like to meet the dev who coded that option.

Edit: Thank you. That fixed it.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Rayfer on February 21, 2013, 02:02:13 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on February 21, 2013, 10:54:28 AM
Quote from: Kushan on February 21, 2013, 10:50:51 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on February 21, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: Toonces on February 20, 2013, 10:35:42 PM
You could google, "Dragonborn quest won't start!" and see what happens.

Now I'm thinking!

Turns out a file isn't loaded properly via Steam. Not sure what to do about that yet, but I'll figure something out.


Open the Skyrim Launcher, click on data files, and check to make sure Dragonborn is checked.

<chuckle> That was amazing! It was *not* checked. I'd like to meet the dev who coded that option.

Edit: Thank you. That fixed it.

LOL....sorry to laugh but I did the same darn thing with the Fallout 3 addon "The Pitt"...couldn't get it to trigger because, unknown to me, it required me to go in and check it off as an active mod.  Had to go to their forums to get an answer.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Toonces on February 21, 2013, 11:11:27 PM
I always wondered my my Pitt mod didn't show up in Fallout3!  LOL.  This thread is classic.   :o
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Toonces on May 20, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: Toonces on February 09, 2013, 03:27:05 PM
Ok, so my first foray into Solthsteim or however you say it was interesting.

The short version was that I got my ass kicked, repeatedly, so I've backtracked to Skyrim.

I posted on the Steam forums and I am WAY too low level for Dragonborn.  There are guys in the 35-50 level that are barely comfortable and my guy is only up to level 8 now.  I don't want to boot up my old guy so I'm going to have to wait until I get buffed up a bit more before I tackle Dragonborn some more.  It will be sitting there waiting for me.

On a separate note, I had my first run-in with a vampire while I was playing last night.  Nice to see my Dawnguard DLC kicking in, too.  So travelling at night just got a whole lot more interesting! 

I'm trying to role-play a bit more this go around, trying to minimize my fast travel, wearing Skyrim-themed fur and banded armor, stuff like that.  I was going to try to play through with no magic, but I find myself gravitating to a Spellsword type character again.  Honestly, I don't know how to play any other way.

Well, I guess that's it.  I saw a preview of Dragonborn on Kokatu that was very favorable.  I like that the Morrowind music is in it, and the graphics are fantastic.  It sure would be nice to see all of Morrowind overhauled in the Skyrim engine.

So 15 or so months after getting Dragonborn I've managed to level up the character referenced in this post to level 31 and I am back at Solthesteim tonight questing to fulfill the Dragonborn prophesy.  I just cleared my first dungeon and saw Miraak, so I'm working my way through the main questline without too much trouble just yet.

Damn, I didn't realize I've been plodding along at such a dismal rate...a year and a half, really?   :-[
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Kushan on May 20, 2014, 01:14:48 AM
You are just a little late.

Anyone else been following the development of Skywind?
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Gusington on May 20, 2014, 07:46:24 AM
Skywind?
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Kushan on May 20, 2014, 09:26:22 AM
Its the Morrowind remake mod for Skyrim. Unlike previous projects though, Bethesda hasn't shit them down. And from the look of their videos they are actually making progress on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJwpaVwOaHM
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Sir Slash on May 20, 2014, 09:54:42 AM
There are projects to use the Skyrim engine to recreate Morrowind and Oblivion. Skywind looks to be the most ambitious of the two. I hope they can pull it off-- like I really need another world to get lost in.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Rayfer on May 20, 2014, 10:19:04 AM
Quote from: Toonces on May 20, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: Toonces on February 09, 2013, 03:27:05 PM
Ok, so my first foray into Solthsteim or however you say it was interesting.

The short version was that I got my ass kicked, repeatedly, so I've backtracked to Skyrim.

I posted on the Steam forums and I am WAY too low level for Dragonborn.  There are guys in the 35-50 level that are barely comfortable and my guy is only up to level 8 now.  I don't want to boot up my old guy so I'm going to have to wait until I get buffed up a bit more before I tackle Dragonborn some more.  It will be sitting there waiting for me.

On a separate note, I had my first run-in with a vampire while I was playing last night.  Nice to see my Dawnguard DLC kicking in, too.  So travelling at night just got a whole lot more interesting! 

I'm trying to role-play a bit more this go around, trying to minimize my fast travel, wearing Skyrim-themed fur and banded armor, stuff like that.  I was going to try to play through with no magic, but I find myself gravitating to a Spellsword type character again.  Honestly, I don't know how to play any other way.

Well, I guess that's it.  I saw a preview of Dragonborn on Kokatu that was very favorable.  I like that the Morrowind music is in it, and the graphics are fantastic.  It sure would be nice to see all of Morrowind overhauled in the Skyrim engine.

So 15 or so months after getting Dragonborn I've managed to level up the character referenced in this post to level 31 and I am back at Solthesteim tonight questing to fulfill the Dragonborn prophesy.  I just cleared my first dungeon and saw Miraak, so I'm working my way through the main questline without too much trouble just yet.

Damn, I didn't realize I've been plodding along at such a dismal rate...a year and a half, really?   :-[

I enjoyed Dragonborn, especially the tribute it gave to the older Morrowind game. I look forward to the Skywind mod talked about here but in a way, a little of it has already been done.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Toonces on May 24, 2014, 03:56:01 AM
Whelp, I finished Dragonborn.  It really isn't very long if you crank right through the main quest.  I think I spend less than 10 hours total on it, including a couple of side quests.

Overall it was neat.  The final boss fight was indeed pretty boss.  I don't know that it was $20 awesome, but now that you can pick up the whole smack for pennies I definitely think it's worth checking out, if for no other reason than the nod to Morrowind with the music and all.

Now that I've finished the main quests of main Skyrim (twice), Dawnguard (twice), and Dragonborn (once), I'm just not sure what to do with myself in Skyrim.  I don't know that a 3rd play through is warranted...

I open to any suggestions you all might have, but unfortunately I think the best move might be to head to Morrowind or Oblivion and finish one of those. 
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: JasonPratt on May 27, 2014, 01:50:50 PM
Toonces,

Do you have the free mod that sets up a minor campaign to rebuild the small city destroyed by the dragon in the prologue? I've heard good things about that.
Title: Re: Sooooo... Dragonborn DLC. Opinions? Comments? Criticisms?
Post by: Kushan on May 27, 2014, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: Toonces on May 24, 2014, 03:56:01 AM
Whelp, I finished Dragonborn.  It really isn't very long if you crank right through the main quest.  I think I spend less than 10 hours total on it, including a couple of side quests.

Overall it was neat.  The final boss fight was indeed pretty boss.  I don't know that it was $20 awesome, but now that you can pick up the whole smack for pennies I definitely think it's worth checking out, if for no other reason than the nod to Morrowind with the music and all.

Now that I've finished the main quests of main Skyrim (twice), Dawnguard (twice), and Dragonborn (once), I'm just not sure what to do with myself in Skyrim.  I don't know that a 3rd play through is warranted...

I open to any suggestions you all might have, but unfortunately I think the best move might be to head to Morrowind or Oblivion and finish one of those. 

IIRC there is actually a lot more to do on Solstheim the initial appearances. The Telvanni wizard, the dig site, the pirate armor questline, and a few more that I can't think of at the moment. I found there was more side quests in Dragonborn then in Dawnguard. Other then the main danwguard story, the only major quest line I can think of is the Aetherium quests.

Only 3 playthroughs? Makes my 8 feel like a little too many. I'm planning on doing another playthrough as soon as T3ndo gets around to releasing his latest overhaul mod.

There are several quest mods available. Falkskaar and Wyrmstooth both come highly recommended on the Nexus. And as JasonPratt pointed out the Helgen Reborn mod is worth trying as well. Or you can install a bunch of graphic mods, turn ugrids up to 7 or 9 and run around a take screenshots for use as desktop wallpaper.