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Title: Fast & Furious
Post by: Smuckatelli on February 28, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
I wonder why Rep. Issa hasn't placed Holder in contempt yet?

Attorney General Eric Holder on Tuesday stopped short of saying he would have eliminated Operation Fast and Furious if he had been made aware of the failed gun-tracking operation before it was put in place.

Holder told lawmakers at a subpanel hearing that Fast and Furious was "fundamentally flawed," but the nation's top cop emphasized that "aggressive" and "creative" tactics must be used if the United States has any hope of stopping the flow of weapons to Mexico.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/213083-holder-would-have-modified-fast-and-furious-gun-tracking-operation
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: LongBlade on February 28, 2012, 09:46:40 PM
Quote from: Smuckatelli on February 28, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
I wonder why Rep. Issa hasn't placed Holder in contempt yet?

I'm sure he's keeping his powder dry. I don't think we've seen the worst of this scandal yet.
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: Epee1 on February 28, 2012, 11:20:01 PM
^ You got that right.
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
Since I've given up discussing politics, I'm going to have to discuss journalism. As in... where do they find these writers?!

Quotettorney General Eric Holder on Tuesday stopped short of saying...

If he stopped short of saying it... how did the journalist know what he was going to say?

Quotebut the nation's top cop emphasized

Top cop? Is this a reference to Holder? I thought the Attorney General was the top... uh... Attorney? He doesn't execute laws does he, only prosecutes them? Someone explain this to me, because I don't get the designation here.

QuoteRepublican leadership has not indicated it will take up the measure anytime soon, but Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), who has led the House's investigation of the issue, has threatened to place Holder in contempt if he does not produce documents used to draft a letter to Congress that mistakenly said the DOJ makes every effort to interdict weapons before they cross into Mexico. That letter has since been withdrawn.

What does this paragraph mean? Issa wants the "documents used to draft a letter to Congress?" Like the papers used to write a letter? Does this mean rough drafts of the letter? And what is up with all those tense changes?

Don't get me started on that journalist's over use of the helper verb "has/had/have" and the imperfect tense (in all sorts of a mix of future-imperfect, subjunctive-imperfect).

Seriously... I'm sort of astonished. Is this an actual newspaper? Or is The Hill a submission-based periodical like the Huffington Post? Did this person get paid to write that article? You better clean it up before Brant sees this!

Pardon me... I've been editing all day for the past five days.
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: Smuckatelli on February 29, 2012, 10:03:42 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
Since I've given up discussing politics,

SoM...dat be a lame excuse.... ;)

Politics must be discussed if it is dealing with the Constitution, the moment that we determine that it is to heated and back out is the moment the flames get closer to the Constitution.
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: Smuckatelli on February 29, 2012, 10:03:42 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
Since I've given up discussing politics,

SoM...dat be a lame excuse.... ;)

Politics must be discussed if it is dealing with the Constitution, the moment that we determine that it is to heated and back out is the moment the flames get closer to the Constitution.

What, Lent is a lame excuse? Are you trying to step on my First Amendment rights?  :P
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: LongBlade on February 29, 2012, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: Smuckatelli on February 29, 2012, 10:03:42 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
Since I've given up discussing politics,

SoM...dat be a lame excuse.... ;)

Politics must be discussed if it is dealing with the Constitution, the moment that we determine that it is to heated and back out is the moment the flames get closer to the Constitution.

What, Lent is a lame excuse? Are you trying to step on my First Amendment rights?  :P

Zing!

I love it.
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: Smuckatelli on February 29, 2012, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: Smuckatelli on February 29, 2012, 10:03:42 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 12:35:52 AM
Since I've given up discussing politics,

SoM...dat be a lame excuse.... ;)

Politics must be discussed if it is dealing with the Constitution, the moment that we determine that it is to heated and back out is the moment the flames get closer to the Constitution.

What, Lent is a lame excuse? Are you trying to step on my First Amendment rights?  :P

No, using Lent as an excuse to not discuss the Constitution is lame...... :-*   8)
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
Help Help! I'm being repressed! Someone contact Bishop Dolan!
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: LongBlade on February 29, 2012, 11:41:10 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
Help Help! I'm being repressed! Someone contact Bishop Dolan!

<giggles>

I don't know why I keep giving you support, but this is sorta funny to me for some reason.
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: Smuckatelli on February 29, 2012, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
Help Help! I'm being repressed! Someone contact Bishop Dolan!

Pay attention around 2:30 onward:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: LongBlade on February 29, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
Quote from: Smuckatelli on February 29, 2012, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
Help Help! I'm being repressed! Someone contact Bishop Dolan!

Pay attention around 2:30 onward:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY

Laugh

Out

Loud
Title: Re: Fast & Furious
Post by: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
Quote from: Smuckatelli on February 29, 2012, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on February 29, 2012, 11:39:46 AM
Help Help! I'm being repressed! Someone contact Bishop Dolan!

Pay attention around 2:30 onward:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY

That's what I was quoting!  ;D