Storm Eagle Support has taken some knocks over the years but I had a great experience over the last few days. Jutland was a casualty of getting a new rig. I contacted Josh Rose and, over two days, walked me through to success.
Giving credit where it's due.
Well, that's certainly great news!
On the other hand, if you need to spend two days helping your customers getting your game to work on their system, is that really a smart DRM scheme choice?
I just can't see how the revenue they would lose from "pirates" stealing a freebie of their game would ever equal the amount of revenue they've lost by alienating their bread & butter clientele.
It wasn't the DRM; it was a corrupt file. Also, my wife and I were gone over Valentine's. ;)
Good man, Bismarck. Nice to see the wife still has priority on those special days. :)
Funny how this pops up now. I am in a dreadnought sorta mood.
Quote from: Gusington on February 15, 2013, 07:34:30 PM
Funny how this pops up now. I am in a dreadnought sorta mood.
There is a big debate if Jutland is superior to NWS's Steam and Iron (http://forums.navalwarfare.net/showthread.php?2328-INFORMATION-AND-DOWNLOADS-THREAD). From what I have read, graphics in Jutland is clearly the winner, but it has a finicky UI and is not as "accurate" or adaptable as Steam and Iron. But I would love to hear more from experts here on that topic (without turning this into a flame-fest about DRM, please).
I'm a SAI man full broadsides and ramming speed. Especially as the new campaign add-on is due any day. Jutland & RJW remind me of an old girlfriend, great to look at but dumb as a post. SAI feels like it actually wants me to play it. Jutland was a battle about a naval battle. And I too had a very bad Storm Eagle experience. I hope they've improved their service and they're games.
Quote from: Gusington on February 15, 2013, 07:34:30 PM
Funny how this pops up now. I am in a dreadnought sorta mood.
Have you ever seen a game thread and not immediately wanted to play said game? ;D
All the time.
Saturday morning = dreadnoughts in my house. Like Cheerios. Without the milk and health benefits.
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 15, 2013, 11:49:16 PM
I'm a SAI man full broadsides and ramming speed. Especially as the new campaign add-on is due any day. Jutland & RJW remind me of an old girlfriend, great to look at but dumb as a post. SAI feels like it actually wants me to play it. Jutland was a battle about a naval battle. And I too had a very bad Storm Eagle experience. I hope they've improved their service and they're games.
Might have to wait a few months, but I'm hoping the Boss or the Kid's will indulge me SAI for my birthday in April - it's not a lot to ask is it? :P
@Sir Slash
In your opinion is the campaign really imminent, or an expression of optimism by the developers? I'm hearing so many good things about SAI's playability and the thought that there will be a campaign (and hopefully more in the future) makes battles take on a new and deeper dimension.
I think Sir Slash has it down perfectly. Jutland is very nice to look at. However in any action involving more than 3 or 4 ships, it is virtually impossible to control the action or even to follow what is actually happening. (This aside from the fact that my version hasn't worked for years due to the DRM scheme.)
S&I, while graphically minimalist, allows you to actually play squadron and fleet actions. It also allows you to tweak the level of command control beyond the strictly realistic to give the player more control if desired. But the deciding factors have to be the playability and the historical results (the ultimate realilsm factor.)
Can't resist: And would you rather be dealing with Chris and a game that actually works and doesn't just stop working, or with Storm Eagle.
I get along with both - but then I get along with everybody except Curtis and Giftzwerg's lackeys.
I can control large Jutland/RGW scenarios by giving commands on the 2D map and switching to 3D to watch the action.
I'll give Jim Rose credit for recent efforts to mend fences with his customer base, but he has years of belligerence to make up for. Personally, I'll never buy from SE again based on his past behavior. There's no trust left.
Chris posted an announcement last month on the other site about the campaign. Here's the link. Should be out this month or next and looks delicious. The campaign beta was buggy as hell but the SAI team really worked hard to get all the gremlins out and answered all complaints/issues very quickly. This one's a must have for me. http://forums.navalwarfare.net/showthread.php?2705-STEAM-AND-IRON-CAMPAIGN-EXPANSION-ANNOUNCEMENT I hope that's right.
I like SAI a lot, but picked up Jutland last night. I was impressed with what I saw in the limited time I played it - unfortunately I had a number of crashes and wasn't able to play completely through a scenario. It certainly looks great, though I can understand some of the gripes about the camera and the difficulty of the UI.
I read a few tips last night on how to exercise better control over your ships and I'm definitely going to use Bismark's approach of commanding on the 2D map and watching action in 3D. It's enough of a treat to watch/hear the big guns firing and the shells throwing up huge columns of spray that I'm willing to give the UI learning curve a chance.
Regarding SAI - what level do you guys command at? I've been playing at Admiral level, but have been thinking about playing at Rear Admiral to have a bit more control over my divisions.
Quote from: panzerde on February 16, 2013, 03:01:24 PM
I read a few tips last night on how to exercise better control over your ships and I'm definitely going to use Bismark's approach of commanding on the 2D map and watching action in 3D.
It's definitely easier issuing commands via the enlarged 2D map. But the damn thing is Butt-Ugly and I always end up spending what feels like half my game time cycling between the map sizes, to issue division commands, and then back to 3D too look around. I'd notice it less if the 2D map actually looked good but it's all blurred, basic, and fugly like it's a very small resolution pic stretched to a high resolution. :-\
I think that's part of the reason I enjoy S&I, also. If I gotta use 2D to issue commands all the time, at least it looks relatively good & crisp and has more functions available on it. Of course it has no 3D and I'm not very familiar with the campaign system yet (although the latter does seem to have building options & such so that could be a big advantage).
Quote from: Gusington on February 16, 2013, 10:20:54 AM
Saturday morning = dreadnoughts in my house. Like Cheerios. Without the milk and health benefits.
But you'll get your daily requirements for iron....HAHA!
I'll let myself out...
When I read the post title this is all I could think of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uriZZ3Slz74
I like the way you think, Arctic.
Quote from: republic on February 16, 2013, 06:56:06 PM
When I read the post title this is all I could think of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uriZZ3Slz74
Funny!!!