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Digital Gaming => Computer Gaming => Topic started by: jejo68 on February 25, 2013, 05:44:04 PM

Title: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: jejo68 on February 25, 2013, 05:44:04 PM
been wanting to get back into a chopper cockpit, but havent really played since the good old apache longbow days.

Is there any good heli sims out there. I dont want some arcade shitty game though.
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 25, 2013, 05:45:01 PM
DCS: KA-50 Blackshark
Take On Helicopters
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: bbmike on February 25, 2013, 07:45:17 PM
I honestly thought the title of this thread was "Any good HELL sims out there?". I had no idea what to expect when I came in here.  :o
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Gusington on February 25, 2013, 07:49:03 PM
^Solium Infernum!
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: PanzersEast on February 25, 2013, 08:18:40 PM
http://www.gog.com/gamecard/apache_vs_havoc
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http://www.gog.com/gamecard/comanche_vs_hokum
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http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3185855/EECH_Downloads.html

Is still the best... have tried several but nothing beats it... I like the dynamic campaign and there is not one out there that can reproduce that.

PE
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 25, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
Quote from: PanzersEast on February 25, 2013, 08:18:40 PM
http://www.gog.com/gamecard/apache_vs_havoc
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http://www.gog.com/gamecard/comanche_vs_hokum
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http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3185855/EECH_Downloads.html

Is still the best... have tried several but nothing beats it... I like the dynamic campaign and there is not one out there that can reproduce that.

PE

They were good in their day, but even modded, I believe they have been surpassed.  From the perspective of the "best sim" experience, I'm hard pressed to see how DCS KA-50 can be overcome presently.
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: PanzersEast on February 25, 2013, 08:35:23 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 25, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
They were good in their day, but even modded, I believe they have been surpassed.  From the perspective of the "best sim" experience, I'm hard pressed to see how DCS KA-50 can be overcome presently.

I don't disagree that the sim experience is better (systems modeled and flight dynamics), however without a dynamic campaign and the feel of being in a war, it leaves me empty.  I know I have been spoiled on Falcon 4 and EECH dynamic environment and it is hard to play without it.

PE
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Toonces on February 25, 2013, 08:43:33 PM
I have to agree with Jarhead.  DCS:Ka-50 is the best helo sim out there right now.  The problem with DCS:Ka-50 is the same as it is with all of their sims- lack of any kind of "game" behind the sim. 

I haven't invested the time to get into DCS multiplayer, but I imagine it is quite fun.

IF the whole DCS:World enchilada comes to fruition with multiple DCS platforms, a fleshed out Combined Arms, and full multiplayer functionality, and the community buys-in, you're going to be hardpressed to find anything better.

So, DCS:Ka-50 is the "best" in my opinion.

Modded EECH is very "fun" but is really starting to show its age.  Of the two EECH is very cheap, so if money is a factor, it's a low buy-in.  You could also just get both.
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: DoctorQuest on February 25, 2013, 09:23:06 PM
Quote from: PanzersEast on February 25, 2013, 08:35:23 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 25, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
They were good in their day, but even modded, I believe they have been surpassed.  From the perspective of the "best sim" experience, I'm hard pressed to see how DCS KA-50 can be overcome presently.

I don't disagree that the sim experience is better (systems modeled and flight dynamics), however without a dynamic campaign and the feel of being in a war, it leaves me empty.  I know I have been spoiled on Falcon 4 and EECH dynamic environment and it is hard to play without it.

PE

I vote for modded EECH. I don't play for the rivet counting experience and I (as has been stated many times before) detest any form of DRM which rules out DCS.

Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: jejo68 on February 26, 2013, 05:30:59 PM
ty for the replies guys  :)
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: tgb on February 26, 2013, 06:40:25 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 25, 2013, 07:49:03 PM
^Solium Infernum!

LOL.  That was my first thought, since I recently went back to it having not touched it for about two years.
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: eyebiter on February 26, 2013, 06:53:09 PM
Is there a helicpoter sim that uses track IR to simulate the AH-64 30mm cannon, where the chaingun aims where you look?
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Cougar_DK on February 27, 2013, 12:08:09 AM
Quote from: eyebiter on February 26, 2013, 06:53:09 PM
Is there a helicpoter sim that uses track IR to simulate the AH-64 30mm cannon, where the chaingun aims where you look?

Sure, EECH does that  ;)
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Yskonyn on February 27, 2013, 05:18:44 AM
Can we stop calling EECH a 'sim' please. :P
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: DoctorQuest on February 27, 2013, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 27, 2013, 05:18:44 AM
Can we stop calling EECH a 'sim' please. :P

What would you call it? Any "sim" in the PC environment is a "game" first and a "sim" second.
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Yskonyn on February 27, 2013, 11:35:12 AM
A game indeed. :)  8)

There is little sim-like in EECH. :P

Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: DoctorQuest on February 27, 2013, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 27, 2013, 11:35:12 AM
A game indeed. :)  8)

There is little sim-like in EECH. :P

I think you're quibbling over semantics but whatever.......

Granted. THIS is a simulator http://www.aviationsystemsdivision.arc.nasa.gov/facilities/cvsrf/acfs.shtml.

Call it what you will. It will teach you how to fly a helicopter in combat situations.
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Yskonyn on February 27, 2013, 02:15:19 PM
You're obviously not aware of the common discussions over at the Eagle Dynamics board.
Calling anything else than ED's study sims a sim is a continuous joke around there.
Nevermind. :D
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: DoctorQuest on February 27, 2013, 02:51:45 PM
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 27, 2013, 02:15:19 PM
You're obviously not aware of the common discussions over at the Eagle Dynamics board.
Calling anything else than ED's study sims a sim is a continuous joke around there.
Nevermind. :D

I suspected that was the crux of the issue. 
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: jomni on February 27, 2013, 11:57:13 PM
Those guys sound so elitist. Many in the simming world are like that. They try to prove that they are better than the common gamer...
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Nefaro on February 28, 2013, 04:44:42 AM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on February 27, 2013, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 27, 2013, 05:18:44 AM
Can we stop calling EECH a 'sim' please. :P

What would you call it? Any "sim" in the PC environment is a "game" first and a "sim" second.

Aye.

What next?  Denying the tag to games like Strike Fighers 2?  ???
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Yskonyn on February 28, 2013, 10:50:25 AM
You are a little late to the party, Nefaro. ;)
It was already established as being a joke that did not click. So nevermind.
Title: Re: any good heli sims out there ?
Post by: Nefaro on February 28, 2013, 11:35:50 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 28, 2013, 10:50:25 AM
You are a little late to the party, Nefaro. ;)
It was already established as being a joke that did not click. So nevermind.

Sorry.. hadn't frequented the ED boards.  I'm sure there are plenty Sim elitists there, that you were making fun of.  ;D