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Digital Gaming => Computer Gaming => Topic started by: spelk on March 13, 2013, 06:32:25 PM

Title: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: spelk on March 13, 2013, 06:32:25 PM
Bumped into this one on Greenlight, and just liked the look of it. Snappily named Army and Strategy: The Crusades looks to be a sort of more abstract and perhaps casual version of Paradox Interactives epic (and complex) historical strategy games.

Some of us need slightly less slippery and easier stepping stones on our leap towards Europa Universalis :)

I like the look of the battle/combat resolution mechanic.



Seems to be still in alpha testing by a Korean dev.

http://www.piedpipersent.com/blogs/?lang=en
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: tgb on March 13, 2013, 07:14:31 PM
They couldn't think of anything more generic for a name?

Actually I liked the boardgame-esque approach and art style, and the ESL-major  dialogue.  It really does seem kind of charming.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: Boggit on March 13, 2013, 07:24:00 PM
It reminds me - a little - of the game "Montjoie" - only Montjoie's art style and gameplay seems better IMO.

http://www.outofeight.info/2008/02/montjoie-review.html
http://www.wargamer.com/article/2548/pc-game-review-montjoie!

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/all?q=montjoie
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: Gusington on March 13, 2013, 08:47:27 PM
Bismarck (our own) loved Montjoie.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: sandman2575 on March 13, 2013, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: Boggit on March 13, 2013, 07:24:00 PM
It reminds me - a little - of the game "Montjoie" - only Montjoie's art style and gameplay seems better IMO.


this was my immediate reaction as well.  Montjoie is a sweet game -- i love how it preserves a real board-game flavor.

This is intriguing --although tgb is right, the name is pretty uninspired --
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: tgb on March 13, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
I didn't see the similarity but I loved Montjoie as well.  If this is anything like it it's an immediate buy for me.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: son_of_montfort on March 13, 2013, 10:37:05 PM
I just taught the Crusades today! If you guys have never read it, I suggest reading:

Fulcher of Chartes, The Chronicle of Fulcher of Chartes
http://www.amazon.com/First-Crusade-Chronicle-Chartres-Materials/dp/0812216563
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: Longdan on March 13, 2013, 10:40:40 PM
The 4th Crusade was my favourite hands down.  What an astronomical clusterhump of greed and misdirected slaughter.
I am sure I was at that one in one of my previous lives.  Prolly as a Venetian.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: sandman2575 on March 13, 2013, 10:51:55 PM
Quote from: Longdan on March 13, 2013, 10:40:40 PM
What an astronomical clusterhump of greed and misdirected slaughter.


it's good that civilization has come so far since then!  oh, wait...
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: son_of_montfort on March 14, 2013, 01:09:29 AM
Quote from: Longdan on March 13, 2013, 10:40:40 PM
The 4th Crusade was my favourite hands down.  What an astronomical clusterhump of greed and misdirected slaughter.
I am sure I was at that one in one of my previous lives.  Prolly as a Venetian.

All of them are pretty good, particularly when you get into the character of the crusaders. The Fourth is interesting, to be certain.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: spelk on March 14, 2013, 07:17:47 AM
Quote from: tgb on March 13, 2013, 07:14:31 PM
They couldn't think of anything more generic for a name?

I thought it was more a factor of them being Korean, rather than lack of imagination. It could be a literal translation, I suppose?

Quote from: tgb on March 13, 2013, 07:14:31 PM
Actually I liked the boardgame-esque approach and art style, and the ESL-major  dialogue.  It really does seem kind of charming.

Yeah, I was drawn to it - mainly because it looks like a casual Risk-esque game, with miniatures in the combat, but from the look of it I think there's a bit more under the hook than Risk (diplomacy etc).

Caught my eye, whilst traipsing through the usual dross that sits in the Greenlight hopefuls.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: Longdan on March 14, 2013, 10:12:38 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on March 14, 2013, 01:09:29 AM
Quote from: Longdan on March 13, 2013, 10:40:40 PM
The 4th Crusade was my favourite hands down.  What an astronomical clusterhump of greed and misdirected slaughter.
I am sure I was at that one in one of my previous lives.  Prolly as a Venetian.

All of them are pretty good, particularly when you get into the character of the crusaders. The Fourth is interesting, to be certain.

I wrote a paper on it way back in the last century.  I was able to use some of the French sources which weren't available in English then.
I never knew researching a paper could be so much fun!  That old Doge of Venice was as good an evil villain as there ever was IMHOP.
Too bad I needed to make a living and was in Sciences.  Forty years later I am still thinking of going back to study History.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: Nefaro on March 14, 2013, 01:13:10 PM
I up-voted this on Greenlight a week or two ago.  Looks like a lot of fun.

Evidentally they're redo'ing the mechanics in the combat mini-game, as the testers weren't too happy with the hands-off approach.   Will be interesting to see what they do with it, as their take on it looks interesting (despite some bad 'Engrish').
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: son_of_montfort on March 14, 2013, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: Longdan on March 14, 2013, 10:12:38 AM
Too bad I needed to make a living and was in Sciences.  Forty years later I am still thinking of going back to study History.

Forty years later and it is still hard to make a living studying History!

Quote from: Nefaro on March 14, 2013, 01:13:10 PM
Will be interesting to see what they do with it, as their take on it looks interesting (despite some bad 'Engrish').

I noticed some grammar and spelling errors that put me off. Hopefully that will get fixed up.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: tgb on March 14, 2013, 05:47:18 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on March 14, 2013, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: Longdan on March 14, 2013, 10:12:38 AM
Too bad I needed to make a living and was in Sciences.  Forty years later I am still thinking of going back to study History.

Forty years later and it is still hard to make a living studying History! .

Don't take this the wrong way, but many years ago when a very good friend of mine got his degree in History, I had the following business card made up for him:

QuoteJoe Blow
212-xxx-xxxx
Historian
(also, dogs walked)
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: Staggerwing on March 14, 2013, 08:23:10 PM
^So he's the reason I have to scrape my shoe on the curb every couple of blocks whenever I visit Manhattan.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: RooksBailey on March 14, 2013, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: spelk on March 13, 2013, 06:32:25 PM
Bumped into this one on Greenlight, and just liked the look of it. Snappily named Army and Strategy: The Crusades looks to be a sort of more abstract and perhaps casual version of Paradox Interactives epic (and complex) historical strategy games.

Some of us need slightly less slippery and easier stepping stones on our leap towards Europa Universalis :)

I like the look of the battle/combat resolution mechanic.



Seems to be still in alpha testing by a Korean dev.

http://www.piedpipersent.com/blogs/?lang=en

Thanks for the heads up.  I added my support on Greenlight, too.  Looks like fun.
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: son_of_montfort on March 14, 2013, 10:20:04 PM
Quote from: tgb on March 14, 2013, 05:47:18 PM
Don't take this the wrong way, but many years ago when a very good friend of mine got his degree in History, I had the following business card made up for him:

QuoteJoe Blow
212-xxx-xxxx
Historian
(also, dogs walked)

;D

It is also a good path to be told you are wrong by both non-academics and academics alike!
Title: Re: Army and Strategy: The Crusades
Post by: Nefaro on March 14, 2013, 10:51:53 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on March 14, 2013, 10:20:04 PM
Quote from: tgb on March 14, 2013, 05:47:18 PM
Don't take this the wrong way, but many years ago when a very good friend of mine got his degree in History, I had the following business card made up for him:

QuoteJoe Blow
212-xxx-xxxx
Historian
(also, dogs walked)

;D

It is also a good path to be told you are wrong by both non-academics and academics alike!

That goes for most any profession, actually.  :P