I am looking for some kind of game which provides a satisfactory model of economics at about the European Middle Ages
level of technology. Some kind of kingdom management thing which would include warfare. Nothing so far seems to
scratch my itch. Everything I pick up is too simple or too magicy or on too local of a scale like Stronghold.
I am looking for something with a good military/industrial model. Europa Universalis is too big and abstract and I feel the need
for something on a smaller level. Anybody have any ideas or suggestions?
You could try Anno 1404. It's like a sim city kind of deal. Not sure if its macro enough. Also, CK2 has a lot...at least once you get 100 years in or so and can start updating castles, towns and such.
Thanks, Mike. I was thinking of that one.
Also, there's an add-on for Patrician IV: http://www.patrician4.com/en/index.php
I also see a game that Google coughed up that bills itself as a "medieval trading game." Never heard of it, but it might be worth checking out:
http://www.kapi-regnum.com/
Definitely the Patrician series.
I am kind of struggling with the scale but thanks for the suggestions.
Patrician is the only true economic sim for the Middle Ages. I think Crusader Kings offers a nice balance of economy and kingdom building, but it may not be exactly what you want. You could always go for the Settlers series as well, I quite liked the most recent one (and it is now reasonably priced).
There was an older game called Knights of Honor that was pretty good - economy, kingdom building, dynasty building. It is very long in the tooth, however. I wish they would update that.
So you just want to do the merchant thing?
Besides Patrician 4, there is also The Guild 2: Renaissance.
http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-GUILD2R/the-guild-ii-renaissance
Not so much sailing & ships in that one .. but you do start off as a merchant in a certain area and compete with other merchants (including assassinations, legal accusations, and other cutthroat stuff).
I've not learned the ins & outs of it enough yet but it looks to qualify. There are some YouTube vids about The Guild 2 Renaissance if you wanna see what the gameplay is like. Fortunately, it's only $10 at GG.
An upcoming game that I've got my eye on is Medieval Mayor (http://tiltedmill.com/medieval-mayor/) from Tilted Mill Entertainment. While I'm sure it will only touch lightly on the topic of medieval economics, I thought I would mention it here.
Quote from: Greybriar on March 22, 2013, 04:02:08 AM
An upcoming game that I've got my eye on is Medieval Mayor (http://tiltedmill.com/medieval-mayor/) from Tilted Mill Entertainment. While I'm sure it will only touch lightly on the topic of medieval economics, I thought I would mention it here.
Indeed...i also have my eye on it.
Knights of Honor is also one of my favorite games and combines economical aspects as well as warfare.
Quote from: Greybriar on March 22, 2013, 04:02:08 AM
An upcoming game that I've got my eye on is Medieval Mayor (http://tiltedmill.com/medieval-mayor/) from Tilted Mill Entertainment. While I'm sure it will only touch lightly on the topic of medieval economics, I thought I would mention it here.
Oh, nice. I didn't know Titled Mill was doing a medieval city builder. I hope they do as well as they did with
Children of the Nile. That one had good societal & industry systems in it.
Thanks for that Medieval Mayor link, Greybriar. Despite the clunky title that may be a day one purchase for me.
Thanks I actually have most of those suggested. What I am looking for is something like this:
http://www.landsandlords.de/
which is an online game I have been playing for more than a year. Except more bigger. You build an economy and then use it to build an army
for wars of aggression (or defense). I would like to play something like this on a bigger scale, solitaire. It is like Empire.
There was also Medieval Lords from 2004...i have it but didn't have much time to play it...yet
It's a mix between city-builder and war game, but mostly city-builder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV_R0AH_hpU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV_R0AH_hpU)
Quote from: Anguille on March 22, 2013, 12:47:14 PM
There was also Medieval Lords from 2004....
I was going to buy
Medieval Lords, but it has StarForce as its DRM and that scared me off. I guess I'll pick it up when GOG.com offers it.
^^Thanks both of you for the good/bad news respectively. Starforce arrrgghhh!
Quote from: Longdan on March 22, 2013, 12:57:53 PM
^^Thanks both of you for the good/bad news respectively. Starforce arrrgghhh!
You're welcome.
There's also another medieval themed game coming called Banished, I saw mention of it this morning...don't have a link handy at the moment.
Quote from: Gusington on March 22, 2013, 01:50:14 PM
There's also another medieval themed game coming called Banished, I saw mention of it this morning...don't have a link handy at the moment.
Looks really good too. Due out at the end of the year. Here is the RPS article and the linky:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/22/simsettlement-banished-is-about-survival-and-life/
http://www.shiningrocksoftware.com/
Actually, Banished made me think... Dan, if you are sufficiently hardcore, you might try Dwarf Fortress. It is a free kingdom builder and economic sim (also a siege sim, in a sense). I would grab the Lazy Newb Pack, and play with a tileset, however.
Quote from: Greybriar on March 22, 2013, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: Anguille on March 22, 2013, 12:47:14 PM
There was also Medieval Lords from 2004....
I was going to buy Medieval Lords, but it has StarForce as its DRM and that scared me off. I guess I'll pick it up when GOG.com offers it.
yes, the original release has starforce. However, i bought a budget edition "white label" i think, which is starforce free.
Quote from: Anguille on March 22, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
yes, the original release has starforce. However, i bought a budget edition "white label" i think, which is starforce free.
Thanks for the information. I'd like to get my hands on a DRM-Free version of
Medieval Lords.
Quote from: Greybriar on March 22, 2013, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: Anguille on March 22, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
yes, the original release has starforce. However, i bought a budget edition "white label" i think, which is starforce free.
Thanks for the information. I'd like to get my hands on a DRM-Free version of Medieval Lords.
Me too. And I had better take a run at
Dwarf Fortress.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on March 22, 2013, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 22, 2013, 01:50:14 PM
There's also another medieval themed game coming called Banished, I saw mention of it this morning...don't have a link handy at the moment.
Looks really good too. Due out at the end of the year. Here is the RPS article and the linky:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/22/simsettlement-banished-is-about-survival-and-life/
http://www.shiningrocksoftware.com/
this
very excited
Quote from: Longdan on March 22, 2013, 08:24:24 PM
Quote from: Greybriar on March 22, 2013, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: Anguille on March 22, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
yes, the original release has starforce. However, i bought a budget edition "white label" i think, which is starforce free.
Thanks for the information. I'd like to get my hands on a DRM-Free version of Medieval Lords.
Me too. And I had better take a run at Dwarf Fortress.
Be prepared, the interface is from 1988 and the game is gut-bustingly hard. But there is a lot to love there!
I have looked at Dwarf Fortress over the years. Hard doesn't bother me.
Have to add: is there any legal place to get Medieval Lords retail?
I saw some used on eBay.
Quote from: Longdan on March 23, 2013, 11:06:56 AM
Have to add: is there any legal place to get Medieval Lords retail?
I saw some used on eBay.
i bought mine on amazon.co.uk
Quote from: son_of_montfort on March 23, 2013, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: Longdan on March 22, 2013, 08:24:24 PM
Quote from: Greybriar on March 22, 2013, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: Anguille on March 22, 2013, 03:57:57 PM
yes, the original release has starforce. However, i bought a budget edition "white label" i think, which is starforce free.
Thanks for the information. I'd like to get my hands on a DRM-Free version of Medieval Lords.
Me too. And I had better take a run at Dwarf Fortress.
Be prepared, the interface is from 1988 and the game is gut-bustingly hard. But there is a lot to love there!
Yeah. Actually, I just couldn't stomach Dwarf Fortress due to the interface & gfx. Notably the terrible height display where any tile that is +/-1 level, compared to your current one, just shows as an up or down arrow. Damn mess.
I suggest picking up the Gnomoria beta or even A Game Of Dwarves for a less frustrating way to play the same style of game.