There would seem to be a sale on. I might buy myself a nice Airco DH2.
Crap...please don't tell me the Channel Map is on sale...
Its $19.99, but some of the aircraft are down to $2.99.
Go on Gus, have a look in the store...you know you want to :)
Dammit Commander Bawb...I still have flight fundamentals to learn.
Dammit Gus, ain't you qualified as airworthy yet!
Git yo ass into that there airplane and get flyin'
Actually, I'm pretty crap at it still, and I almost landed by the road trying to shoot trucks. I would have been better getting out of the 'plane and shooting the buggers with a pistol!
Anyway - got back to base and sort of landed, although I did break a bit of wing off in the process.
Still, any landing you can walk away from............
Now, where did I leave those clean undergarments?
You neglected to inform us that the Brandenburg W12 seaplane is 4.99...*drool*...and the Gotha is 6.99!! And most Fokkers and Sopwiths are 2.99...I'm spazzing out!
Get the Pup! It's my favourite crate to fly by far. So agile.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 27, 2013, 06:00:35 PM
Get the Pup! It's my favourite crate to fly by far. So agile.
Lovely, lovely plane, though it's considered OP in MP circles.
I think I might pimp some of my rides - I've yet to try out the Aldis sight and I don't own a pistol
Both the Sopwith Pup and Dolphin are both 2.99...
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 27, 2013, 06:00:35 PM
Get the Pup! It's my favourite crate to fly by far. So agile.
Yeah, it looks nice, although I really do like the DH2.
I bought the pistols pack. Great fun but impossible to hit anything with (well, I have managed hole my own wings a few times and I can reliably shoot the water 5 times out of 6 on the lake map.)
Quote from: bob48 on March 27, 2013, 06:07:16 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 27, 2013, 06:00:35 PM
Get the Pup! It's my favourite crate to fly by far. So agile.
Yeah, it looks nice, although I really do like the DH2.
DH2 has great forward visibility but it flies like a brick with a brick tied to its ass. really the only thing you can tangle with on anything close to even terms is the Fokker Eindekker.
Hmmm. Not good then. Its just that it looks so cool. maybe I'll go for the Pup then, or perhaps one the bigger ones - maybe I'll try the HP 0-400, or the Gotha.....or the SE5a. Not easy to choose.
Felixstowe flying boat?
That's one of the few I haven't bought yet.
RoF = Rise of Flight?
Just the look of it is...intimidating.
Quote from: bob48 on March 27, 2013, 06:20:12 PM
Hmmm. Not good then. Its just that it looks so cool. maybe I'll go for the Pup then, or perhaps one the bigger ones - maybe I'll try the HP 0-400, or the Gotha.....or the SE5a. Not easy to choose.
It depends on what you want them for. Generally I buy planes so that I'm not excluded from MP servers because I don't have them. If you want to play MP then, out of those you list, I'd buy the SE, unless you want to master bombing (then pick HP or Gotha). If you just want to play offline, then Pup as the most fun
Quote from: Gusington on March 27, 2013, 06:29:10 PM
Felixstowe flying boat?
I broke down and got it soon after release. It's definitely in the BUFF class. It's a lot easier to take off from water with with the Felix than from dirt with the other 2 BUFFs though.
Bob, I do not recommend the DH2, I bought it because I liked the design and look, but in game.. you can't fight anything with it, very slow..
DH2 sounds good for me then since I am only planning on getting shot down.
It's a lot of fun to make a quick mission where you've got a flight of DH2s against a flight of Fokker EIIIs. Start off at 2,000m and you'll be amazed just how quickly you all end up on the deck once the turn fighting starts. The DH2 takes forever to climb.
Quote from: Gusington on March 27, 2013, 06:29:10 PM
Felixstowe flying boat?
It flies like a flying boat. My favorite plane is the Dolphin. For irrational reasons I think. Anyway, Tizard (of later radar fame)
personally delivered the first Dolphin to France. By then he was pretty tired of flying and later remarked that
maybe an oxygen mask would have made him more enthusiastic about flying (the Dolphin could get up pretty high apparently).
I like the Dolphin myself.
Patch 1.030 is out with the campaign for the Channel map.
In the end, I did buy the D.H.2, only because I like it. However, I am having a problem with it insofar as it will not respond to throttle controls. My other aircraft work fine, and I've reset the inputs etc sever times, but nothing happens other than the aircraft stays at full throttle all the time.
Not sure if this is a bug in this particular plane or if you need to do something different for add-ons?
Anyone else have similar problems?
This could be the reason for your frustration- the DH2 was powered by a license build version of the Gnome Monosoupape Rotary engine. It had no throttle as such, just a 'blip' switch or, occasionally, a 3-cyl cutoff switch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome_Monosoupape#Control
Extreme embarrassment.
I finally got round to looking in the RoF manual, and sure enough, just as you say, Stagger, there is a minute small-print line telling me that exact thing.
So back to fiddling with joystick setting - its a bit of a pig of a game in that respect due to the sheer number of default settings, so I'm still trying to find a rational set-up on the 'ol Saitek X45.
So yes, its a a sod to fly, but the main reason I brought it is because I like its looks, and I remember building a 1/48 plastic kit of one many moons ago.
I shall get myself either an SE5a or Dolphin for 'proper' flying :-)
I have the SE, but not the Dolphin, and the only thing I know about the latter is that it's prone to flipping over on landing and killing the pilot. The SE is a good plane for the prudent pilot as you can stuff the nose down on full throttle to escape the bad guys. It doesn't do well with sustained turns, so your best bet with it is to dive on an unsuspecting enemy, try to get a shot in, and then climb away (regardless of whether your shots hit) - the so-called boom 'n' zoom. This tactic requires that you are able to spot aircraft flying beneath you, can position yourself in the dive so that you'll intercept that aircraft, and that you have the discipline not to get sucked into a turn fight. In my experience none of these things is easy.
I often use the SE in MP because it's usually available and doesn't have the stigma of the Camel. For a mediocre pilot like me, it's good because you can generally bug out when you cock things up, but it is hard to get kills in.
One other thing: it is tail heavy and requires constant forward-stick to maintain level flight. This makes gunnery tricky because the stick is under tension in the "neutral" position, meaning that fine adjustments of pitch for aiming are difficult. If you slide the pitch response curve down until the stick is centred when the plane is flying level at full throttle you'll find that trying to bring the sights to bear doesn't result in so much over-correction in pitch.
I have both. The SE5 is probably the easier of the two to fly but accurate gunnery is more difficult because the site is very rudimentary and the configuration of a Vickers on the nose and a Lewis gun on the top wing is a bit unusual.
The Dolphin is good for gunnery but the low cockpit makes for poor visibility, especially if you don't have a Track IR. It's also got those huge wings which give it good lift but also make it prone to structural failure. You can't really yank on the stick in the Dolphin or the wings go bye-bye.
If you're looking for a good all around plane that doesn't really have any huge drawbacks, you'll have to join the bad guys and get an Pfalz DIII or an Albatross DV.
Thanks for the info chaps.
My inclination is to go with the SE for now, or I may even try a bit of bombing and try the DH4. Its easy to go over-the-top (sorry, bad WW1 pun there) and buy a few 'planes while the sales are on, but I'd rather face the Hun than Mrs.B when she see's the bill.
Anyway, its not as if they dan't have quite frequent sales, so its easy to add the odd aircraft on at such times.
I'm taking note of tips on setting up the joysticks and looking for setting that I feel comfortable with. At the moment, I think my settings are too sensitive, as I'm constantly twitching about trying to stay level, but maybe to an extent, that's how they were IRL.
Not played on-line yet until I have a bit more confidence and maybe stand a chance of actually hitting something - other than the ground, that is!
I'm extremely impressed by the quality of the graphix in the game, not just the aircraft, but also the ground detail. Last night I flew over the front line and gobsmacked by the trenches, exploding shells, AA fire and the pall of smoke over the battlefield.
Excellent stuff, so it is.
Anyone fly as the Germans regularly? Taking advantage of the sale I want to get few German planes but haven't had the chance yet.
The Pfalz III flies like a dream. Very stable gun platform, good diver, and hard to rip thw wings off when you pull up. The only drawback is that the top wing is right at eye level so forward visibility is a bit crap.
^I was eyeing the Pfalz III. I think I am going to get that, the Gotha, and the Brandenburg seaplane, and of course the Channel Map. Wish that was on sale though :/...also looking at the Roland CIIa - which I had never heard of before this RoF sale. At 11.99 its a bit steep though.
The Felixstowe is pretty cool as well. Lots of crew positions and beaucoup build detail! It's perfect for the Channel Map.
^I want that Felixstowe as well but I am going to use it as a carrot as I learn the game. Once I am a slightly better than terrible pilot and I get the hang of the Track IR, I will get that as a reward for myself :)
Pfalz III is a very nice bird.. I think you'll be very happy with it..
Gotha is cool looking, but a major Challenge to fly. But you get sense of satisfaction when you do it succesfully!
^I think you took me up in your Gotha as a gunner, didn't you? I can't resist the Gotha, it's too cool :)
I finished up buying the DH4. Seems a nice aircraft with good general performance, and it has a gunners position. I think I may make a better bomber pilot than fighter pilot.
Quote from: Gusington on March 31, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
^I was eyeing the Pfalz III. I think I am going to get that, the Gotha, and the Brandenburg seaplane, and of course the Channel Map. Wish that was on sale though :/...also looking at the Roland CIIa - which I had never heard of before this RoF sale. At 11.99 its a bit steep though.
The Roland is an interesting plane. I didn't know it was such an early design. I've been using it to shoot down AI-driven DH-2s since they are both early planes apparently.
Quote from: Gusington on March 31, 2013, 02:08:02 PM
^I think you took me up in your Gotha as a gunner, didn't you? I can't resist the Gotha, it's too cool :)
I know I took you down in my Gotha as my gunner! ::)
Quote from: MengJiao on March 31, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 31, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
^I was eyeing the Pfalz III. I think I am going to get that, the Gotha, and the Brandenburg seaplane, and of course the Channel Map. Wish that was on sale though :/...also looking at the Roland CIIa - which I had never heard of before this RoF sale. At 11.99 its a bit steep though.
The Roland is an interesting plane. I didn't know it was such an early design. I've been using it to shoot down AI-driven DH-2s since they are both early planes apparently.
I've been flying the DH2. You can take one down by just giving it a dirty look!
Quote from: bob48 on April 01, 2013, 05:34:31 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on March 31, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 31, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
^I was eyeing the Pfalz III. I think I am going to get that, the Gotha, and the Brandenburg seaplane, and of course the Channel Map. Wish that was on sale though :/...also looking at the Roland CIIa - which I had never heard of before this RoF sale. At 11.99 its a bit steep though.
The Roland is an interesting plane. I didn't know it was such an early design. I've been using it to shoot down AI-driven DH-2s since they are both early planes apparently.
I've been flying the DH2. You can take one down by just giving it a dirty look!
It's a strange one. I find it puzzling that anyone ever flew in something like that, much less managed to shoot down anything while flying
such a thing.
The DH2 was actually a pretty decent plane when it came out and really put a thumping on the Eindeckers. But with the introduction of the Albatross, the DH2 was made obsolete over night.
Wish the campaign would start earlier in ROF, so you could actually pilot the DH2 in a time period where it was actually an effective plane
^Agreed, it would be good to have some earlier stuff.