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Title: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 03, 2013, 07:21:12 AM
Saw this last night and it looks like a cross between the original King Arthur game from Neocore and what I hope Warhammer Total War will look like when released by Creative Assembly. My only problem is that it appears to be MMO only...but I haven't confirmed that yet. Anyone know anything further on it, like if there will eventually be a SP campaign?
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Sir Slash on April 03, 2013, 08:19:37 AM
Never heard of it before but there seem to be so many new games out I can't keep-up. Looks real good though.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Rayfer on April 03, 2013, 09:46:54 AM
An online, real time strategy game.....here's a gameplay video off of strategycore.com.   http://www.strategycore.co.uk/news/a-wondrous-waking/
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 03, 2013, 05:55:16 PM
I bought it a couple of years ago, I think.  Apparently they'd had some bad luck with their publisher and had to bring forward the release quite a bit; as a result the game was kinda buggy and...idiosyncratic (to be kind).

You begin by selecting one of three races, and then you're presented with your home city which is already minimally developed.  You start to build it up while taking a very odd tutorial, which sends you on quests around your home province while introducing you to the mechanics, units and building types.  Eventually you're encouraged to go trade with neighbouring cities, level up your units, and make war.

Building up your city consists of assigning worker units to harvesting resources, then deciding which buildings you want - dependent mainly on which units you'd like to field.  Buildings can be upgraded in order to give your units upgrades, and specialised buildings can be built to confer even better bonuses on your troops.

The community was very small at the time, but I understand some PvP was usually going on.  There was a clamouring for co-op against the AI which the devs were promising to implement.  The interface was totally crazy and not at all user-friendly, but gradually the game became easy to play.  It was vaguely interesting and showed some promise.

I haven't played in a long, long time but I've been reading the devs' emails, each one gushing about all the new features and bug fixes etc.  For my part, I think I'm definitely going to go back in.  Appearing on Steam has reminded me to have a go.  I got a Steam key for being a previous owner so I'm going to download it this weekend and take a look.

I'll post impressions if there's interest.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: ArizonaTank on April 03, 2013, 06:01:49 PM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on April 03, 2013, 05:55:16 PM
I bought it a couple of years ago, I think.  Apparently they'd had some bad luck with their publisher and had to bring forward the release quite a bit; as a result the game was kinda buggy and...idiosyncratic (to be kind).

You begin by selecting one of three races, and then you're presented with your home city which is already minimally developed.  You start to build it up while taking a very odd tutorial, which sends you on quests around your home province while introducing you to the mechanics, units and building types.  Eventually you're encouraged to go trade with neighbouring cities, level up your units, and make war.

Building up your city consists of assigning worker units to harvesting resources, then deciding which buildings you want - dependent mainly on which units you'd like to field.  Buildings can be upgraded in order to give your units upgrades, and specialised buildings can be built to confer even better bonuses on your troops.

The community was very small at the time, but I understand some PvP was usually going on.  There was a clamouring for co-op against the AI which the devs were promising to implement.  The interface was totally crazy and not at all user-friendly, but gradually the game became easy to play.  It was vaguely interesting and showed some promise.

I haven't played in a long, long time but I've been reading the devs' emails, each one gushing about all the new features and bug fixes etc.  For my part, I think I'm definitely going to go back in.  Appearing on Steam has reminded me to have a go.  I got a Steam key for being a previous owner so I'm going to download it this weekend and take a look.

I'll post impressions if there's interest.

So what happens to your city while you are off-line?  Or is it not persistent
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 03, 2013, 06:04:48 PM
^Yeah good question. Crappy quote though :)

I had no idea the game was a rehash.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 04, 2013, 12:47:22 AM
Cities are persistent, and your workers will continue to gather resources and build while you're offline.  Sorry but I can't remember whether you can be attacked while offline.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Longdan on April 04, 2013, 01:14:07 AM
I came back after being offline for more than a week and most buildings and peeps were gone.
Worst of all my Dragon flew away for parts unknown.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 04, 2013, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: Longdan on April 04, 2013, 01:14:07 AM
I came back after being offline for more than a week and most buildings and peeps were gone.
Worst of all my Dragon flew away for parts unknown.

Really?  That's bizarre...it didn't do that back when I played it.  I wonder if they changed the system or whether you missed something.  I shall confirm all on the weekend!
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 04, 2013, 02:19:13 PM
You are a good man Huw. I do wish there was a way to play against an AI though.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Longdan on April 04, 2013, 03:39:42 PM
My dragon's name is Timmy.  If you see him tell him to please come home.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 04, 2013, 05:51:18 PM
Will do, Longdan! :D

Quote from: Gusington on April 04, 2013, 02:19:13 PM
You are a good man Huw. I do wish there was a way to play against an AI though.

Perhaps I'm misremembering, but I thought there was a way to siege AI players or something.  Perhaps that was the co-op element they were talking about bringing in?

Ah yes, here we are:

QuoteTwo additional singleplayer modes - including open-ended World Conquest mode - Kingdom Wars, and content-packed single-player Skirmish mode with both Lay Siege and Castle Defense maps - guaranteed to satisfy players of various tastes and gameplay styles.

(Emphasis mine)

Also, Longdan:

QuoteWage war with neighboring regions or complete countless hours of quests as you unveil the dark secrets of Mythador while managing a persistent kingdom and economy with thousands of other players. Socialize, trade, forge alliances and - best of all - battle against other players across the world, defeat their armies, and burn their towns!

(Emphasis mine)

That would seem to indicate that your city will stick around.  Perhaps you hadn't played deeply enough into the tutorial or something.  The devs would be crazy to allow player cities to just vanish after a week of not playing.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Longdan on April 04, 2013, 06:09:09 PM
The place was still there and had my name on it but Timmy and most of my peeps along with most of the buildings were gone.
I will have to look again.  I got kinda pissed and logged off.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 04, 2013, 07:37:16 PM
Huw are those quotes pulled from the game you played a few years back or the current release? I am going to look at Steam now to see if I see any mention of SP...well I'll be...there are two SP modes...anyone try them? The game is 14.99 and looks sweet.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Longdan on April 04, 2013, 08:19:08 PM
I still have an account and will have to go in for another glance but I have some things to do this minute.
The game is pretty and resembles settlers to an extent.  The pace seemed slow but I am impatient sometimes.
The mechanics seemed simple enough but the tutorial was annoying with faux archaic english where people talk
would have done quite well.  I am going to give it another try.  I got it for almost nothing and spent too little time with it.
I still do not know what happened to Timmy.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Sir Slash on April 04, 2013, 10:10:25 PM
Probably in therapy dealing with Name-issues.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 05, 2013, 12:48:41 AM
Quote from: Gusington on April 04, 2013, 07:37:16 PM
Huw are those quotes pulled from the game you played a few years back or the current release?

Yep!  They're from the current features page (http://dof.reverieworld.com/features.php).
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 06, 2013, 06:20:46 PM
Sorry guys, but I won't be reporting on this after all; or not this weekend, anyway.  After the initial half an hour to load the game (shame they haven't fixed that) I was greeted with the login screen.  Of course I can't remember my password after all this time, but no problem!  Just click the button to be taken to the password recovery screen...which doesn't work.

(No fields to enter account name or email address)

Oh well.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 06, 2013, 07:04:14 PM
You need a hug.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: son_of_montfort on April 06, 2013, 07:15:05 PM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on April 06, 2013, 06:20:46 PM
Sorry guys, but I won't be reporting on this after all; or not this weekend, anyway.  After the initial half an hour to load the game (shame they haven't fixed that) I was greeted with the login screen.  Of course I can't remember my password after all this time, but no problem!  Just click the button to be taken to the password recovery screen...which doesn't work.

(No fields to enter account name or email address)

Oh well.

If the password recovery screen doesn't work, that does not bode well for the game!
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Sir Slash on April 06, 2013, 10:51:35 PM
Hey Gus. How was the whole "Army Strong" run thing? I sat on my couch, ate pizza and watched the Final Four. "Private Citizen Lazy Ass" is my motto.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 07, 2013, 02:39:20 AM
I do need a hug Gus!  I had a bloody unlucky night for gaming last night. :(
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 07, 2013, 11:31:00 AM
My arms are outstretched and waiting Huw! Come to me. Slash I just got back from first drill. Needless to say I have some stories. I just don't want to OT muck up this thread.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Longdan on April 07, 2013, 11:59:46 AM
Why would this thread be different?  I went back into DoF and Timmy is still gone.   :'(    Some of my serfs are missing
and some of the things I built are gone but my territory is still there.  I wish they would polish the tutorial a bit
the faux old timey language is a piss off and not everything is intuitive so I cannot always remember how to do
things.  I play too many games and I have too much brain damage.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Sir Slash on April 07, 2013, 01:25:55 PM
Seriously. Thank you for your service even if it's only N.Y. In the event of an emergency, you would come and defend Fla. wouldn't you?
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: MetalDog on April 07, 2013, 01:49:39 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on April 07, 2013, 01:25:55 PM
Seriously. Thank you for your service even if it's only N.Y. In the event of an emergency, you would come and defend Fla. wouldn't you?


If he stays in long enough, he'll be a snowbird eventually ;)
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Longdan on April 07, 2013, 02:29:59 PM
Fla is protected by Star.  A different department entirely and an entirely different concept of "protection".
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 07, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
As a Jew I am contractually obligated to defend Florida.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Longdan on April 07, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
How do you feel about Quebecois?  Very large old drunk ones in speedo's?
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 07, 2013, 02:58:05 PM
Big fan. The Wife and I honeymooned in Quebec.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Longdan on April 07, 2013, 02:59:57 PM
You must compare notes with Star.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 10, 2013, 04:46:48 PM
Incidentally, the latest newsletter claims that more than 10,000 new players have joined after the first week of being on Steam.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 10, 2013, 06:20:55 PM
^But if you don't look good, we don't look good. Without your impressions I ain't buying. No pressure though :)
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Longdan on April 10, 2013, 06:25:31 PM
James Allen did this review a year and a half ago.  I might assume it has been cleaned up a bit.  It is pretty. http://www.outofeight.info/search?q=dawn+of+fantasy
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 10, 2013, 06:40:42 PM
I have a few days off work so I'll try and get my account recovered.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Gusington on April 10, 2013, 08:54:29 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Huw the Poo on April 11, 2013, 12:26:34 PM
Well I finally got my account back and had a quick look in the game.  To be completely honest, at first glance it doesn't look like anything's changed!  The interface is still a nightmare; if you want to select a worker unit, for example, you have to find it and click on it.  You can't just click on its icon on the panel because doing so will select all worker units.  Yes, you read that correctly.

I uploaded some screenshots (http://steamcommunity.com/id/huwthepoo/screenshots) to my Steam profile if you want a look.  I'll try and get some combat in later and report on it; that is the meat of the game, after all.  I'm happy to answer specific questions too.

I'm sorry to say but this game might be pay to win; you can buy elite units (and even normal units) in the online shop.  I'm not sure if there are any other considerations but that certainly sounds like pay to win to me.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: Toonces on June 19, 2013, 12:39:49 AM
Just saw this on Steam.  Man, those forums can be nuggets of gold sometimes:

"The game is like Battle for Middle Earth had a baby with Stronghold and called it Dawn of Fantasy. Sadly, I must inform you Stronghold was drinking and smoking cigarettes during pregnancy."  ;D

I swear that made me laugh for about 30 seconds.

Anyway, I'm eyeballing this.  I just can't decide if I'll like it or not.
Title: Re: Dawn of Fantasy on Steam
Post by: JasonPratt on June 20, 2013, 11:01:41 PM
^^ Oh, good, I already own both those games! (Will play them instead. :D )

Quote from: Longdan on April 07, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
How do you feel about Quebecois?  Very large old drunk ones in speedo's?

I read that as "very large drunk Old Ones in speedos".

Time for bed now I think...