I track this kind of craziness, but this one threw me for a loop. http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2013/04/04/does-jabba-the-huts-palace-really-look-like-a-mosque/
Michael
Well I dunno Mike....that Hagia Sofia has those rocket ships on it, or are they stylised ICBM's?
Shouldn't it be a Museum group that complains that it makes Museum Curators look like Hutt Cartel crooks? With bongs?
And an eating disorder. Jabba does, in fact, resemble a whole bunch of people who watch and star in Here Comes Honey BooBoo.
There seems to be a lot of angst to go around. What about that Sarlacc thing and violent feminists? And all those spermy Xwings trying
to penetrate that Death Ovum? Man this is one can of worms of an analogy minefield.
Actually, as I wrote, some of Lucas' ethnic-style characterizations in The Phantom Menace concern me. Not in the racist sense so much as just lazy writers relying on cheap stereotypes.
But the fuss over the palace makes no sense. I think Lego said that it only appears in one scene in the movie (Star Wars-heads, check me if I'm wrong). Since Muslim (actually, Arabic) culture tends to be desert-centric, it's not a surprise that a movie set in the desert would have Middle Eastern architecture. Maybe not super-creative, but hardly racist.
Michael
Quote from: DicedT on April 04, 2013, 02:27:47 PM
I track this kind of craziness, but this one threw me for a loop. http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2013/04/04/does-jabba-the-huts-palace-really-look-like-a-mosque/
Michael
does anyone, apart from pissed off muslims with fk all else to moan about but another westernised conspiracy theory, really give a s***?
not a go at you - just the usual 'were being repressed and misrepresented' shite that makes them look far more ridiculous than if they acknowledged it and said ' hey that looks like the hagi sofia, wow, but noone cares'?
and do you know what?
noone cares!!!!!!
as long as we all agree that evil people have Britsh accents.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on April 04, 2013, 05:32:35 PM
as long as we all agree that evil people have Britsh accents.
agreed
apart from James Earl Jones
Frankly I'm tired of all the catering to islamic bluster. When they stop beheading Christians, throwing acid in the faces of women, and a myriad of other much more offensive behaviors I'll give a damn what they think.
Jabba's palace in Star Wars Galaxies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvmmowla76E
Brings back memories, travelling from Bestine to Jabba's.
Well you can do a lot of things with accents and not all of them good. When I was a kid I couldn't figure out why all the Germans
on TV spoke English with a German accent or English with and English accent. I must say I was pretty amused when the not-so-bright
pixies in Willow had identifiably Quebecois accents. Now that was funny! If you were from Quebec maybe not so much. Cent40 would know better.
Look at all the people flipping out about The Golden Compass they were so upset about what might have been the Church
that they did not even notice it was a sh*tty movie that nobody went to anyway. Can't say I care much for christians or moslems as such.
But that is just me. Nobody gives my faith the least respect.
http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=4411.msg104708#msg104708
The one ridiculous stereotype I remember in Star Wars was in the Phantom Menace...the blue junk dealer with the giant nose.
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You mean Watto and his sidekick Willow?
^ Heh.
Quote from: undercovergeek on April 04, 2013, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: DicedT on April 04, 2013, 02:27:47 PM
I track this kind of craziness, but this one threw me for a loop. http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2013/04/04/does-jabba-the-huts-palace-really-look-like-a-mosque/
Michael
does anyone, apart from pissed off muslims with fk all else to moan about but another westernised conspiracy theory, really give a s***?
not a go at you - just the usual 'were being repressed and misrepresented' shite that makes them look far more ridiculous than if they acknowledged it and said ' hey that looks like the hagi sofia, wow, but noone cares'?
and do you know what?
noone cares!!!!!!
+1 to this.
Quote from: Bison on April 04, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
Frankly I'm tired of all the catering to islamic bluster. When they stop beheading Christians, throwing acid in the faces of women, and a myriad of other much more offensive behaviors I'll give a damn what they think.
Also, this.
That's the guy. When the movie came out there was hallabaloo about that thing being Jewish and representing 1000 stereotypes.
Huh. I hadn't hear that.
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By the logic of the Turkish Cultural Association of Austria, Christians should be offended if an airport in Egypt has runways that intersect like a cross (not to mention a Christian basilica being converted into a mosque). Or, members of the Jedi religion should be offended that Islamists are discriminating against an icon from their theological universe. But this is not an issue about Islamic intolerance, not when fundamentalist Christians attempt to ban books from schools and ultra-Orthodox Jews blot out the faces of women from newspaper photos. It is about the capacity of fundamentalists to insist the the world conform to their own image of themselves.
But even if George Lucas and his writers were inspired by the Hagia Sophia, so what? The Muslim world, wracked by civil war and poverty, can at least point to the scientific and literary gifts that it once contributed to civilization. And if the Hagia Sophia inspired a toy that brings joy and inspires a child's imagination, is that the worst testament for a religion?
Well put. Besides,
if Jabba's palace is inspired by the Hagia Sophia, its the main building... the central dome; which was actually constructed and built as an Orthodox church, not a mosque. The 4 minarets are the only truly "Islamic" structures, and those are not replicated in the Lego Jabba set. If the Lego set included 4 towers, then they might have a point. But like you said, "so what?".
Quote from: Gusington on April 05, 2013, 12:28:50 PM
That's the guy. When the movie came out there was hallabaloo about that thing being Jewish and representing 1000 stereotypes.
Well for crissakes what did the Jamaicans think about Jar Jar Binks???? Were they mad because he was green and not black?
Some people have too much time on their hands. In most places where they don't like you they blow you up, not make a cartoon of you.
This whole religion thing has gone too far. Just chuck the nearest child into the volcano and have done with it.
Quote from: Gusington on April 05, 2013, 12:28:50 PM
That's the guy. When the movie came out there was hallabaloo about that thing being Jewish and representing 1000 stereotypes.
Yeah, it was fairly overt. Not quite as obvious as the Trade Federation guys who may as well have been called 'Asian Stereotype Fishmen'. And the Gungans certainly had a bit of an over the top Jamaican stereotype going on.
They were obvious enough that it was decidedly...weird. It's a bit insane to think that NOBODY picked up on any of this during production and screenings.
There are no Jewish people in Hollywood are there? I know there are a lot of Canadians but not many Jamaicans.
If they showed a character with an enormous man-unit would people be fighting to make him part of their ethnic stereotype?
In Welcome Back Cotter how come nobody complained that a scientologist was playing an Italian stereotype?
Quote from: Longdan on April 05, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
There are no Jewish people in Hollywood are there?
Not one.
John Travolta wasn't crazy yet in 1975.
^^I dunno Gus. What was that movie with the white suit and the one [gag] that followed? Gravol me!
I think he was crazy before the real crazies got him. Hmm hmm Saturday morning fever: down to the cellar
for a couple of litres of Longdan's Premium Pale Ale. Oh the Humanity!!!
Quote from: Gusington on April 05, 2013, 12:28:50 PM
That's the guy. When the movie came out there was hallabaloo about that thing being Jewish and representing 1000 stereotypes.
I never heard that either.
besides, everyone knows Obi-wan is Jewish.
there are lots of Jews in space.
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I always had a hard spot for Daphne.