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Title: War in Europe is Over
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 08, 2013, 08:06:50 AM
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Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: undercovergeek on May 08, 2013, 08:13:21 AM
241 local time?

Is that when they surrendered or the allies left in force?
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: Gusington on May 08, 2013, 08:24:29 AM
Allies are just beginning to leave in force now! 68 years really doesn't sound like that long ago. Happy VE Day!
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: Centurion40 on May 08, 2013, 09:08:19 AM
I could see some clerk (not to mention a few generals) reading that message and saying "WTF does that mean??!!"
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: LongBlade on May 08, 2013, 11:11:14 AM
The war is over.

Why is that "TOP SECRET" ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: Gusington on May 08, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
No one wanted to tell the French.
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: mirth on May 08, 2013, 02:34:26 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 08, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
No one wanted to tell the French.

The French knew in 1940.
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: LongBlade on May 08, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
It's good to know that even in 1945 bureaucracy had a sense of humor. Nothing like declaring the war over but not letting your enemies know. Talk about classic practical jokes!
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: Staggerwing on May 08, 2013, 06:46:49 PM
Didn't you guys notice that all the 'Secret!' banners are crossed out? Looks to me like it was sent out as an anti-secret dispatch.
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: besilarius on May 08, 2013, 07:18:58 PM
Now, when Bill Halsey got the message of Japan's surrender, he didn't trust it.  His message has a unique spin.

"Cease Firing, the war is over.
But if any enemy planes fly over, shoot them down in a friendly manner."
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: LongBlade on May 08, 2013, 09:04:39 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 08, 2013, 06:46:49 PM
Didn't you guys notice that all the 'Secret!' banners are crossed out? Looks to me like it was sent out as an anti-secret dispatch.

Meh. I'm thinking it was originally issued as classified, then later declassified. Probably when 50 years had passed.
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: GDS_Starfury on May 09, 2013, 12:37:27 AM
dude check this out!!!

we killed obl!  double tapped that bitch in the head!

just an fyi.
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: undercovergeek on May 09, 2013, 01:21:01 AM
anyone.........

anyone know where GDS has left his pills?
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: Airborne Rifles on May 09, 2013, 02:23:10 AM
Quote from: besilarius on May 08, 2013, 07:18:58 PM
Now, when Bill Halsey got the message of Japan's surrender, he didn't trust it.  His message has a unique spin.

"Cease Firing, the war is over.
But if any enemy planes fly over, shoot them down in a friendly manner."

Yeah, classic.  He was concerned about kamikaze's who wouldn't accept the surrender of I remember correctly.
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: mirth on May 09, 2013, 05:22:35 PM
Quote from: Airborne Rifles on May 09, 2013, 02:23:10 AM
Quote from: besilarius on May 08, 2013, 07:18:58 PM
Now, when Bill Halsey got the message of Japan's surrender, he didn't trust it.  His message has a unique spin.

"Cease Firing, the war is over.
But if any enemy planes fly over, shoot them down in a friendly manner."

Yeah, classic.  He was concerned about kamikaze's who wouldn't accept the surrender of I remember correctly.

He was right too.
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: Gusington on May 13, 2013, 09:33:47 AM
Halsey really issued that order? I need to read up on him.
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: LongBlade on May 13, 2013, 01:46:30 PM
Yup. Great words.
Title: Re: War in Europe is Over
Post by: mirth on May 13, 2013, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 13, 2013, 09:33:47 AM
Halsey really issued that order? I need to read up on him.

Halsey's one of my favorite WW2 commanders, despite his flawed performance at Leyte Gulf.