Armageddon™ invasion starts in 2014!
Warhammer® 40,000® turn-based strategy videogame details are disclosed.
http://www.thelordzgamesstudio.com/site/2013/05/armageddon-invasion-starts-in-2014/
OH NO YOU DID ENT
Good news. I was just about to post this from your Twitter feed :)
...multiplatform, turn-based, hex-based...
..throwing my money at the screen :D
cant wait! :)
PS: please dont forget the Android world ;)
Apple's global tablet market share has dropped from over 60 percent in Q2 2012 to around 40 percent in each of the third and fourth quarters of 2012 and the first quarter of 2013. And while in Q1 2012 Apple outsold Android in the tablet market by 11.8 million to 8 million, in Q1 2013 Android outsold Apple by 27.8 million to 19.5 million
Awesome!
Keep us updated. I'm sure you'll find many a willing 0-day customers here! :)
stop bashing my igadget world Mike... the statistics show they will make more tons of money on ios than
on your Anderes os.
All I can say is to repeat what is in the announcement: it will be a multi-platform game series...
QuoteAll I can say is to repeat what is in the announcement: it will be a multi-platform game series...
Consoles?!?!!!! :)
Can't wait for this. Although, I do hope eventually, we get a grand strategy game in the vein of Distant Worlds set in the WH 40K universe.
The announcement says PC and iOS.
QuoteThe announcement says PC and iOS
To start with... Sorry guys, outside the official press releases for now we cannot comment or go into detail, one promise though: there will be much more in the future, all in due time, sorry... I will try and keep you posted.
TURN BASED SQUEE!
I don't suppose there's any way to sign up for beta?
definite purchase here
Me want!
Quoteone promise though: there will be much more in the future
Ok, still hope for...consoles :)
Come on, this is the game that would not only work on consoles but would also attract a lot of players, so.... :)
Well now, maybe I'll finally be able to discover what all the fuss has been after all these years. :)
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 21, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Although, I do hope eventually, we get a grand strategy game in the vein of Distant Worlds set in the WH 40K universe.
Big +1 here. That would be beyond epic.
Quote from: Grimnirsson on May 21, 2013, 01:36:38 PM
Quoteone promise though: there will be much more in the future
Ok, still hope for...consoles :)
Come on, this is the game that would not only work on consoles but would also attract a lot of players, so.... :)
Consoles can go jump off a bridge :)
I have 2 myself, doesn't mean I like them though ;)
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 21, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Can't wait for this. Although, I do hope eventually, we get a grand strategy game in the vein of Distant Worlds set in the WH 40K universe.
OMG... that would be the best game in the entire universe.
I'm still excited about this news too, however.
Sounds to me like WH40k using a Battlefield Academy engine.
Trey
Great Ajax anticipated my question: what's the elevator pitch for this game? There's an awful lot of excitement because GW (which should never be trusted, even with its own licenses) and Slitherine (which is a pretty cool bunch of folks) have announced some kind of multi-platform, turn-based 40K game. Tactical level? Grand Tactical? Strategic? And, above all else, what in blazes is it supposed to look like?
I like Slitherine...honest I do...but I don't get making a "big" announcement like this without a single hint (at least that my old fingers can find) of what the game will look like.
Weird...
I'm so old my Blood Angels have beaky-armor...I can't afford too many more failed cracks at this license...
Best,
Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)
Quote from: Great Ajax on May 21, 2013, 03:59:33 PM
Sounds to me like WH40k using a Battlefield Academy engine.
Trey
The Battlefield Academy engine would be well suited to this.
On a slightly related note; Does anyone remember 'Warhammer 40,000 Epic: Final Liberation' by SSI?
If it is like Final Liberation then Battle Academy engine might fit.
They said Hex-based right? Battle Academy is squares.
I hope it's not Panzer Corps.
Anyway, hope Slitherine beefs up their multiplayer servers. This will be a break-away title that will get a wider audience they have never seen before (I hope). Don't want their servers crashing like last time.
This sounds interesting and it will be nice to have the PBEM server system to play MP games.
I'm intrigued. But I really hope this isn't just Panzer Corps with a 40K coat of paint. I want something brand new, and something that has more of an individual focus than just 'Blood Angels Div. 1'.
Immediate buy, here...
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 21, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Although, I do hope eventually, we get a grand strategy game in the vein of Distant Worlds set in the WH 40K universe.
That would definitely be da bomb.
Warhammer® 40,000® Armageddon™ forum is now open.
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=235
Quote from: Arctic Blast on May 21, 2013, 05:51:41 PM
I'm intrigued. But I really hope this isn't just Panzer Corps with a 40K coat of paint. I want something brand new, and something that has more of an individual focus than just 'Blood Angels Div. 1'.
Quoted for truth.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2013, 07:04:51 AM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on May 21, 2013, 05:51:41 PM
I'm intrigued. But I really hope this isn't just Panzer Corps with a 40K coat of paint. I want something brand new, and something that has more of an individual focus than just 'Blood Angels Div. 1'.
Quoted for truth.
Over 35 scenarios;
Over 100 unit types, with unique roles, stats and special abilities;
20 different units stats;
A separate set of maps are designed and balanced specifically for multiplayer via Slitherine's PBEM++ system.
having played the boardgame to death in my youth - i dont remember there been that many unit types - hopefully it will allow for a little more 'personalisation'
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 22, 2013, 07:41:30 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2013, 07:04:51 AM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on May 21, 2013, 05:51:41 PM
I'm intrigued. But I really hope this isn't just Panzer Corps with a 40K coat of paint. I want something brand new, and something that has more of an individual focus than just 'Blood Angels Div. 1'.
Quoted for truth.
Over 35 scenarios;
Over 100 unit types, with unique roles, stats and special abilities;
20 different units stats;
A separate set of maps are designed and balanced specifically for multiplayer via Slitherine's PBEM++ system.
having played the boardgame to death in my youth - i dont remember there been that many unit types - hopefully it will allow for a little more 'personalisation'
100 units.
Let's try to parse this out.
If we look at WH40k Space Marines we'll find the vanilla army offers a limited number of units.
Space Marine Squad
Scout Squad
Assault Marines
Terminators
Apothecary
Librarian
Chaplain
Sergeant
Dreadnought
Land Speeder
Rhino
Whirlwind
Predator
Land Raider
That's a total of 14 units. I don't have my books in front of me, but assuming we have a few unique units that total comes in below 20 units.
If we assume a roughly equal distribution among all races that will yield five.
Space Marines
Orks
Eldar
Tau
Necrons
Expansions will probably offer more races and specialized factions like Grey Nights and Space Wolves.
yeah but armageddon is all about the Empire units with the Space Marines assisting - in the board game you got 4 chapter counters i think - literally a counter for a chapter - salamanders, ultramarines, blood angels and im sure there was a fourth but the bulk of the forces were imperial and titan
like so -
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Quote from: undercovergeek on May 22, 2013, 08:19:16 AM
yeah but armageddon is all about the Empire units with the Space Marines assisting - in the board game you got 4 chapter counters i think - literally a counter for a chapter - salamanders, ultramarines, blood angels and im sure there was a fourth but the bulk of the forces were imperial and titan
I was thinking about the minis game and tilting toward Apocalypse.
And, of course, I completely left out the Imperial Guard.
No matter how you slice it, 100 units seems a bit constrained compared to everything that is potentially available. That said, it's probably a great starting point.
Main features of the game include:
•The game portrays the Second War for Armageddon™ in great detail, from the initial Ork landings to the final liberation of the planet;
•It contains a large branching campaign with 30 major scenarios, plus additional 5 tutorial scenarios that explore the story in detail;
•A complex plot, which can develop during a mission, right in the middle of battle, creating an engaging story line with unexpected twists;
•Players lead Imperial troops of the Armageddon™ Steel Legion, with supporting assets from a number of Space Marine chapters against the ferocious Orks;
•Fight alongside Commissar Yarrik and Commander Dante against the cunning Ork Warboss Ghazghkull Thraka;
•Carry over battle-hardened veterans from scenario to scenario, using their experience and upgrading their equipment;
•Detailed combat model with terrain, weather and morale effects;
•Extensive modding options delivered through a powerful and easy-to-use game editor.
i could swear this part was not there when i browsed the article this morning?
-...or i was very quick with the mouse wheel...
Thanks, Mike. So it's Orks and IG.
The IG does have some cool toys, so this should be fun.
From the reading I've done so far its just IG - you don't get to be the orks....
When I think what it could be its great but like JH and others have said please don't be PG or BF Academy with a WH40K mod but then I'm sure that wouldn't take as long as 2014
Quote from: LongBlade on May 22, 2013, 07:58:19 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 22, 2013, 07:41:30 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 22, 2013, 07:04:51 AM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on May 21, 2013, 05:51:41 PM
I'm intrigued. But I really hope this isn't just Panzer Corps with a 40K coat of paint. I want something brand new, and something that has more of an individual focus than just 'Blood Angels Div. 1'.
Quoted for truth.
Over 35 scenarios;
Over 100 unit types, with unique roles, stats and special abilities;
20 different units stats;
A separate set of maps are designed and balanced specifically for multiplayer via Slitherine's PBEM++ system.
having played the boardgame to death in my youth - i dont remember there been that many unit types - hopefully it will allow for a little more 'personalisation'
100 units.
Let's try to parse this out.
If we look at WH40k Space Marines we'll find the vanilla army offers a limited number of units.
Space Marine Squad
Scout Squad
Assault Marines
Terminators
Apothecary
Librarian
Chaplain
Sergeant
Dreadnought
Land Speeder
Rhino
Whirlwind
Predator
Land Raider
That's a total of 14 units. I don't have my books in front of me, but assuming we have a few unique units that total comes in below 20 units.
If we assume a roughly equal distribution among all races that will yield five.
Space Marines
Orks
Eldar
Tau
Necrons
Expansions will probably offer more races and specialized factions like Grey Nights and Space Wolves.
Which codex is that?!
Most SM codexes (?) contain far more units than that.
Terminators have 2 typical units, the close combat ones and the ones with ranged weapons.
Land Raiders have 2 configurations (or is it 3 now) as well.
Plus, Tau, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Necrons, Chaos Space Marines and Demons, Orks, Tyranids, Imperial Guard, Demon Hunters / Grey Knights, Witch Hunters / Sisters of Battle, etc...
Not to mention all the special chapters like Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Blood Ravens (they've been made canon in case you didn't know :P ), Space Wolves...
Far more than 100 units all in all. And that's even without counting the Epic stuff like titans and those huge friggin tanks.
Thought about it.
Much more than I should have, probably...
PC with a 40K mod...
Callin' it.
Best,
Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)
Quote from: Cyrano on May 22, 2013, 11:25:34 AM
Thought about it.
Much more than I should have, probably...
PC with a 40K mod...
Callin' it.
Best,
Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)
And that makes the most sense since the Panzer Corps engine has already been developed and paid for. Now money can go into customizing the mechanics for 40K and getting the graphics and sound effects right.
Quote from: LongBlade on May 22, 2013, 08:54:37 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 22, 2013, 08:19:16 AM
yeah but armageddon is all about the Empire units with the Space Marines assisting - in the board game you got 4 chapter counters i think - literally a counter for a chapter - salamanders, ultramarines, blood angels and im sure there was a fourth but the bulk of the forces were imperial and titan
I was thinking about the minis game and tilting toward Apocalypse.
And, of course, I completely left out the Imperial Guard.
No matter how you slice it, 100 units seems a bit constrained compared to everything that is potentially available. That said, it's probably a great starting point.
Thars money in them thar expasions/DLC
Quote from: LongBlade on May 22, 2013, 11:34:37 AM
And that makes the most sense since the Panzer Corps engine has already been developed and paid for. Now money can go into customizing the mechanics for 40K and getting the graphics and sound effects right.
mmmh ...that doesn't has to be a bad thing
...as long as its only the core of the engine (especially the AI routines) get reused, the W40K game has of course be on a much smaller less abstract scale then PC, with single vehicles, single weapon team units, single significant persons, and maybe 'fire-teams' of Imperial guardmen
here is a little hint :o ...from the Panzer Corps webpage in comparison:
•400 unit types, divided into 19 unit classes with 20 detailed parameters to identify units abilities, 17 terrain types affecting gameplay in various way coincidence or
evidence ? ;)
...the more i read the PC webpage http://www.matrixgames.com/products/399/details/ the more i think Cyrano/ LB hit the X-ring
Will this use the Panzer Corp game engine or something new?
@SgtRock No one, me included, knows for sure as they've not shown us anything. We're gleaning and assuming based on press releases like a bunch of 12th Century monks poring over the lost books of Aristotle.
My prediction is based on a lot of things, not the least of which is the ability to stuff a lot of the promised chrome -- unit details, terrain effects, unit variations, &c. -- "under the hood" in the game system covered only with sound and non-3D graphics.
Putting a finer point on it: update of "Rites of War".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000:_Rites_of_War
Not sad about that, really. I'll play. Just make durn sure the Blood Angels expansion pack is high up in the queue. Bad things happen if the Eldar whoopsies beat them off the landing craft.
Best,
Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)
If it uses the PC engine, that's fine.
If it's just a re-branded PC, my interest level will register at nil.
Quote from: Arctic Blast on May 22, 2013, 03:47:40 PM
If it uses the PC engine, that's fine.
If it's just a re-branded PC, my interest level will register at nil.
Agreed. An ambitious modder could produce that kind of outcome.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 21, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Can't wait for this. Although, I do hope eventually, we get a grand strategy game in the vein of Distant Worlds set in the WH 40K universe.
Or even a decent mod for that. :)
(Or a mod importing the Doctor Who races. ;D I know there's one for Star Trek already...)
"The game is running on a modified Panzer Corps engine, Iain says." - this week
"It is a brand new game and design, so no idea why comparing it with Panzer Corps or Commander makes any sense." - last month, getting all shitty when everyone said boooooo itll be a PC mod for sure
LIES!!!!
No, I still stick with what I said and no lies at all:
QuoteIt shares code with Panzer Corps but is an engine built specifically for the game. We have a hex based turn based engine - no point in throwing it away and starting again especially as we have it ported to iPad. Instead what you do is strip it back to the basics and then layer your new game on top. This is just common sense and how development works :) None of the combat model is being reused so it will play completely differently to Panzer Corps.
Like a car you have a base platform chassis and you can build a different car on it, the Audi A8, VW Phaeton , Bentley Continental GT and Bentley Flying Spur all are build on the same platform. But quite different cars I would say in the end, same goes with games. We can use eg. a game engine like Unity make it a RPG shooter or tactical strategy game, under the hood can be a very similar engine and base code, but they will be complete different games.
Of course as with the example with those cars above, they share some characteristics as all are eg. 4WD, the same with using PzC based code both games are hex based turn based tactical wargames, so a logic choice for us using one of the best platforms we have for this.
Now WH 40K is a hexbased turnbased tactical wargame and the PzC frame engine is perfect as a starting point, but it is far, far from just a mod, but just wait and see...
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on August 22, 2013, 07:13:01 AM
No, I still stick with what I said and no lies at all:
QuoteIt shares code with Panzer Corps but is an engine built specifically for the game. We have a hex based turn based engine - no point in throwing it away and starting again especially as we have it ported to iPad. Instead what you do is strip it back to the basics and then layer your new game on top. This is just common sense and how development works :) None of the combat model is being reused so it will play completely differently to Panzer Corps.
Like a car you have a base platform chassis and you can build a different car on it, the Audi A8, VW Phaeton , Bentley Continental GT and Bentley Flying Spur all are build on the same platform. But quite different cars I would say in the end, same goes with games. We can use eg. a game engine like Unity make it a RPG shooter or tactical strategy game, under the hood can be a very similar engine and base code, but they will be complete different games.
Of course as with the example with those cars above, they share some characteristics as all are eg. 4WD, the same with using PzC based code both games are hex based turn based tactical wargames, so a logic choice for us using one of the best platforms we have for this.
Now WH 40K is a hexbased turnbased tactical wargame and the PzC frame engine is perfect as a starting point, but it is far, far from just a mod, but just wait and see...
unfortunately thats not the quote i used -
"It is a brand new game and design, so no idea why comparing it with Panzer Corps or Commander makes any sense."that one however is
so........................?
Sorry for the confusion.
I was not quoting you, but replying with another quote explaining the first quote, so in reply yes it is a brand new game and design, so no idea why comparing it with Panzer Corps or Commander makes any sense :
Why:
It shares code with Panzer Corps but is an engine built specifically for the game. We have a hex based turn based engine - no point in throwing it away and starting again especially as we have it ported to iPad. Instead what you do is strip it back to the basics and then layer your new game on top. This is just common sense and how development works :) None of the combat model is being reused so it will play completely differently to Panzer Corps.
and further:
Like a car you have a base platform chassis and you can build a different car on it, the Audi A8, VW Phaeton , Bentley Continental GT and Bentley Flying Spur all are build on the same platform. But quite different cars I would say in the end, same goes with games. We can use eg. a game engine like Unity make it a RPG shooter or tactical strategy game, under the hood can be a very similar engine and base code, but they will be complete different games.
Of course as with the example with those cars above, they share some characteristics as all are eg. 4WD, the same with using PzC based code both games are hex based turn based tactical wargames, so a logic choice for us using one of the best platforms we have for this.
Now WH 40K is a hexbased turnbased tactical wargame and the PzC frame engine is perfect as a starting point, but it is far, far from just a mod, it is a new game and new design of course with some obvious similarities, as I tried to explain above, but just wait and see...
Feel free to speculate as much as you want, all we can do is work, build and show in the end it is a very cool game project, than bring it out and watch all your opinions...
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on August 22, 2013, 12:24:22 PM
Sorry for the confusion.
I was not quoting you, but replying with another quote explaining the first quote, so in reply yes it is a brand new game and design, so no idea why comparing it with Panzer Corps or Commander makes any sense :
Why:
It shares code with Panzer Corps but is an engine built specifically for the game. We have a hex based turn based engine - no point in throwing it away and starting again especially as we have it ported to iPad. Instead what you do is strip it back to the basics and then layer your new game on top. This is just common sense and how development works :) None of the combat model is being reused so it will play completely differently to Panzer Corps.
and further:
Like a car you have a base platform chassis and you can build a different car on it, the Audi A8, VW Phaeton , Bentley Continental GT and Bentley Flying Spur all are build on the same platform. But quite different cars I would say in the end, same goes with games. We can use eg. a game engine like Unity make it a RPG shooter or tactical strategy game, under the hood can be a very similar engine and base code, but they will be complete different games.
Of course as with the example with those cars above, they share some characteristics as all are eg. 4WD, the same with using PzC based code both games are hex based turn based tactical wargames, so a logic choice for us using one of the best platforms we have for this.
Now WH 40K is a hexbased turnbased tactical wargame and the PzC frame engine is perfect as a starting point, but it is far, far from just a mod, it is a new game and new design of course with some obvious similarities, as I tried to explain above, but just wait and see...
Feel free to speculate as much as you want, all we can do is work, build and show in the end it is a very cool game project, than bring it out and watch all your opinions...
i appreciate your comments and look forward to seeing it in action, thankyou
Are the units going to be 2d or 3d?
.
Well, first look is up on a variety of sites.
One shot <> experiencing a game! but it appears to be a VERY WELL CRAFTED PzC mod.
In, but disappointed.
Real issue to me will be MP and the ability to cherry-pick battles.
Best,
Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)