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Title: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Lord Zimoa on June 06, 2013, 09:00:27 AM
It's D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!

The spiritual successor to Allied General is finally available:

http://www.slitherine.com/games/panzer_corps_ac
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: LongBlade on June 06, 2013, 09:28:31 AM
Cool!

Who do I contact for a review copy? I'll make a request on Matrix's Press area now, but I'd like to get an AAR of this up today if possible to commemorate D-Day.
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Bismarck on June 06, 2013, 09:39:02 AM
For those who have Panzer Corps, don't have an heart attack when your Panzer Corps shortcut appears to bring up only Allied Corps. Use the icons on the left. AC installs to the Pnzrcrps dir and automatically updates all to 1.2.
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: LongBlade on June 06, 2013, 09:58:12 AM
Got it. Thanks!
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Bismarck on June 06, 2013, 10:47:24 AM
As a beta tester, AC has some nice new twists along with a few historical decisions I'm not comfortable with.
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: SgtRock on June 06, 2013, 12:43:56 PM
Quote from: Bismarck on June 06, 2013, 10:47:24 AM
As a beta tester, AC has some nice new twists along with a few historical decisions I'm not comfortable with.


Can you tell us what the difference is between Panzer Corp vs. Allied Corps?

Any future plans  for an updated Commander Series game with the units of Panzer/Allied Corps?




Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Bismarck on June 06, 2013, 01:44:02 PM
The UI is the same but there's many more units and countries. Heroes seem to be created earlier. One can start as UK or US. The Taranto raid yields the only completely naval scenario. The campaign tree doesn't seem to branch until Italy. At the end, there's a Western Allies vs. USSR scenario. Basically, it's a mirror image of PzC without 1940 Europe.

I have no firm info on add-ons but we all know Slitherine's business model. :)  I can't blame them for maximizing revenue. BTW, I think AC is priced decently.

Frankly, I feel better fighting against Nazi Germany than for it.
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Bismarck on June 06, 2013, 02:01:08 PM
Here's more changes:


Change History:

v1.20 – June 6th, 2013

•   Changes

o   Option to save and watch game replays
o   Option to change difficulty between scenarios in a campaign

- The game now shows scenario name, difficulty and victory conditions in Messages window.
o   Advanced options tab for new game. Custom difficulty settings (player/AI prestige/experience/strength modifiers, turn count modifier, AI level setting), Reform units option, Normal/limited/none randomness in combat option

o   "Show All Nations" option in Purchase screen (to view and compare stats of units belonging to different nations)


•   Gameplay

o   Prestige soft cap
o   Class-specific experience effects
o   Forcing enemy units to surrender earns you prestige
o   Overstrength is progressively more expensive with every point applied
o   Initiative heroes are limited to +1 bonus
o   Entrenchment gives 2x defense bonus against ranged attacks
o   Close terrain now gives +4 defense bonus to ground units vs. fighter and tactical bomber attack
o   Overstrength is lost after upgrade
o   Replacements come suppressed
o   Train transportation takes 2 turns instead of 3
o   Old rules (as in 1.14) available via UI option on advanced options tab
•   New units added

SAS
Commando
SE Rangers
SE Airborne

SE Truck
SE M3 Halftrack
SE Lorry
SE Bren Carrier

SE Willys Jeep
SE Westland Lysander

SE Spitfire Mk.I
SE Spitfire Mk.II
SE Spitfire Mk.VB
SE Spitfire Mk.IX
SE Spitfire Mk.XIV
SE Tempest Mk.V
SE Meteor Mk.III
SE P-51B Mustang
SE P-51D Mustang
SE P-51H Mustang
SE P-47B
SE P-47D
SE P-47N


Westland Lysander
Avro Anson
Willys Jeep

Lorry - changed icon
Matador
Quad
Kangaroo

Bridgelayer
Crocodile
Scorpion
Tortoise
Sherman Crab
T28 Super Heavy

Calliope
Cromwell CS
Churchill AVRE
76mm Land Mattress
114mm T-27 E2
M3 75 GMC - switcher

2pdr portee
6pdr portee
Deacon
QF 25pdr AT - switcher
M3 75 GMC - switcher

Vickers AA
Crusader AA
40 mm SPAA

Battle Mk.II
Boston Mk.III
Beaufighter Mk.IF
Wellington Mk.IC
Wellington Mk.III
Wellington Mk.X
Mosquito Mk.VI S1
Mosquito Mk.VI S2
Swordfish Mk.I

Halifax Mk.II
Halifax Mk.III
Stirling Mk.III
Lancaster Mk.III
B-32 Dominator

Horsa
Hamilcar

New Zealand HW Inf
43 New Zealand Inf
43 New Zealand HW

43 Canadian Inf
43 Canadian HW

43 Free Polish Inf
Free Polish Paras

French Colonial Mnt

43 South African Inf
43 South African HW

43 Indian Inf
43 Indian HW


Panzer IIIF
Panzer IIIG
Panzer IIIH
Panzer IIIJ
Panzer IIIJ/1
Panzer IIIL
Panzer IIIM
Panzer IIIN
Panzer IVD
Panzer IVE
Panzer IVF
Panzer IVF/2
Panzer IVG
Panzer IVH
Panzer IVJ
Panther D
Panther A
Panther G
Tiger I
Tiger II
Maus
•   New city and port tiles added
•   Library extended with new entries

•   New Modding options
o   Hex action
o   Param action
Unit action
o   Unique aux units
o   exp.pzdat data file
o   heroes.pzdat data file
o   New options in gamerules.pzdat
•   German and Russian localizations of the Library added
•   Bug fixes
o   Battleship animation fixed
o   "camo" trait fixed



Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: ERutins on June 06, 2013, 02:11:46 PM
Some of those gameplay changes, though perhaps seemingly subtle are quite significant and IMHO improve the game substantially.
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Bismarck on June 06, 2013, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: ERutins on June 06, 2013, 02:11:46 PM
Some of those gameplay changes, though perhaps seemingly subtle are quite significant and IMHO improve the game substantially.

Quite so.  Even more care must be taken when purchasing and preserving corps units.

Erik, can you tell us what "soft prestige caps" actually means?
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: LongBlade on June 06, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
Quote from: Bismarck on June 06, 2013, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: ERutins on June 06, 2013, 02:11:46 PM
Some of those gameplay changes, though perhaps seemingly subtle are quite significant and IMHO improve the game substantially.

Quite so.  Even more care must be taken when purchasing and preserving corps units.

Erik, can you tell us what "soft prestige caps" actually means?

I'm curious, too.

The victory conditions for the first Normandy scenario said I had to hold two town hexes. Which I managed to do. Yet I was still handed a loss. Granted, I was just fooling around not really trying to strategize, but I did think it was odd that having achieved what I thought was the condition for victory it wasn't enough.

Still it's fun.

Probably I ought to pull out the manual to read it first :)
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Bismarck on June 06, 2013, 02:45:31 PM
BTW, the first three scenarios of the tutorial Desert Campaign may seem easy but the fourth requires real finesse. I recommend even seasoned PzC players to start with that campaign to build up a strong Brit core.
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: jomni on June 06, 2013, 08:42:04 PM
I beta tested this one. 
Not sure about Afrika korps but AC has special victory conditions other than capturing victory hexes.
Also, there's an interesting Battle of Britain scenario.   Pure air war, no ground forces, and purchasing.
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Lord Zimoa on June 07, 2013, 06:01:02 AM
Allied Corps Promo and Gameplay Video: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JLw2A_240L4
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 07, 2013, 06:53:14 PM
So any initial thoughts on this one? Official forums seem kind of dead, which is surprising for a new release.  Not sure if that is a sign or anything.
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Bismarck on June 07, 2013, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 07, 2013, 06:53:14 PM
So any initial thoughts on this one? Official forums seem kind of dead, which is surprising for a new release.  Not sure if that is a sign or anything.


Read my posts up thread; I feel AC is better than PsC..
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 08, 2013, 06:45:35 AM
Quote from: Bismarck on June 07, 2013, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 07, 2013, 06:53:14 PM
So any initial thoughts on this one? Official forums seem kind of dead, which is surprising for a new release.  Not sure if that is a sign or anything.


Read my posts up thread; I feel AC is better than PsC..

I am embarrassed to say I really never played panzercorp either so I don't have a good basis for comparison.  Do you have any plans for creating one of your very good reviews?
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Tuna on June 08, 2013, 08:49:40 AM
You never played Panzer General and you consider yourself a Grog Head!!! :o
It's a good ole Beer and Pretzel's strategy game.. only thing that bummed me out, is for my slow tactical style, there was never enough turns to finish the objectives.. Don't know if they fixed that with a patch or not, but that turned me 'off' from the game.. Otherwise, probably would've played a lot more..

I know, I know, there is a 'cheat' to increase the amount of turns, but that just didn't 'feel' right having to do it every game!
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 08, 2013, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: Tuna on June 08, 2013, 08:49:40 AM
You never played Panzer General and you consider yourself a Grog Head!!! :o
It's a good ole Beer and Pretzel's strategy game.. only thing that bummed me out, is for my slow tactical style, there was never enough turns to finish the objectives.. Don't know if they fixed that with a patch or not, but that turned me 'off' from the game.. Otherwise, probably would've played a lot more..

I know, I know, there is a 'cheat' to increase the amount of turns, but that just didn't 'feel' right having to do it every game!

Yep, some reason just never screamed out to me for a purchase:)  Maybe I will make amends soon:)
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Bismarck on June 08, 2013, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 08, 2013, 06:45:35 AM
Quote from: Bismarck on June 07, 2013, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 07, 2013, 06:53:14 PM
So any initial thoughts on this one? Official forums seem kind of dead, which is surprising for a new release.  Not sure if that is a sign or anything.


Read my posts up thread; I feel AC is better than PsC..


I am embarrassed to say I really never played panzercorp either so I don't have a good basis for comparison.  Do you have any plans for creating one of your very good reviews?

I'm not sure.  Being a beta tester puts me on the horns of a dilemma. If I nitpick as reviewer, did I fail as a tester?  OTOH, am I too close to the product?
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: LongBlade on June 08, 2013, 11:05:57 AM
Quote from: Bismarck on June 08, 2013, 10:48:34 AM
I'm not sure.  Being a beta tester puts me on the horns of a dilemma. If I nitpick as reviewer, did I fail as a tester?  OTOH, am I too close to the product?

Having participated as an active beta tester I wouldn't accept your review here. You'd have been qualified to write a preview, but not a review as you were active as a developer on it.
Title: Re: It’s D-Day - Allied Corps storms the beaches!
Post by: Bismarck on June 08, 2013, 11:15:43 AM
Quite right.