I've chosen to do this DAR using a scenario from the Heroes of the Blitzkrieg expansion In Defeat Defiance.
The scenario is called Going Coastal. Here's the description:
QuoteEast of Calais, France: May 24th, 1940
The Allies had collapsed into a defensive pocket around the Channel ports. In order for 350,000 rations for the BEF to be brought from Calais to Dunkirk, the road between the two cities had to be reconnoitered and secured. An initial squadron of tanks fought their way to Dunkirk but no news of this made it back to Calais, and thus a second squadron was sent, this time with infantry support from the 1st Rifle Brigade. They found the road blocked by elements of the 1st Panzer Division covering the rear flank of the German attack on Gravelines, on the outskirts of Dunkirk.
The scenario is only 6 turns long and the British need to clear the east-west road, and 2 hexes to either side, of good order Germans. The Germans start setup and the British enter on turn one from the west.
To accomplish this mission the British get 5 squads, 3 half-squads, 2 leaders, and a couple of Bren LMG's from the 1st Battalion, 1st Rifle Brigade. They also get 2 Cruiser A10's, a Vickers LT, and 3 Bren Carriers, one with a mounted Boys ATR, from the 3rd Royal Tank Regiment.
I've never played this scenario so it will be a figure it out as we go kinda deal. It looks like a tough one for the Brits. The Germans are able to setup and cover the map well.
This is the map and the German setup.
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Wow it looks like you'll have your work cut out for you. I am looking forward to following this.
Nice one...OFT being used :-)
This will help me be able to get into other aspects of the game as the last one was infantry only (and I choose it for that)
Should be interesting. It looks like you'll be attacking a "fortified" defensive position with much less than a 2:1 ratio (more like 1:1). Is that a stone building that they are in? Even if not, it's going to be a tough one, especially with only 6 turns and you have to clear out the entire center of the board basically. I wouldn't want to be the British here! Can't wait to see how you play it.
Looks like I will follow this story as well. Forgive my ignorance but what is DAR? During Action Report?
Quote from: W8taminute on June 26, 2013, 08:31:02 AM
Looks like I will follow this story as well. Forgive my ignorance but what is DAR? During Action Report?
Yeah, During Action report. I plan to ask the peanut gallery for some help on what I should do during the play.
Thanks for the clarification. As a member of the peanut gallery I'll be eating popcorn and looking for opportunities to comment on the mission. 8)
Quote from: Barthheart on June 26, 2013, 08:33:45 AM
Yeah, During Action report. I plan to ask the peanut gallery for some help on what I should do during the play.
Call in for some reinforcements!!
Quote from: GJK on June 26, 2013, 09:49:11 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 26, 2013, 08:33:45 AM
Yeah, During Action report. I plan to ask the peanut gallery for some help on what I should do during the play.
Call in for some reinforcements!!
;D Yeah.... I think they're all trying to get off the beach! :P
Oh Jeeze.... Brant's been posting about this all over Facebook... better make sure I know my rules and don't look too stupid out there.... :P
So what's the plan for getting the British safely on board? B7 to C7 and then up to the treeline is one obvious choice. The left flank could set up first in the treeline and provide some covering fire that hopefully supresses the German armor. I think that going "up the gut" down the middle of the map would be pure suicide.
Barthheart - that board doesn't seem to have a fold in it...did he stop with the folding play boards?
I wish he'd make the hex numbering more prominent. I find it quite difficult to read.
So far I've thought of breaking the force into 4 parts:
1 platoon (leader and 3 squads) move like you suggested, through the building and try to work their way up to the trees in H7
2 platoon (leader and 2 squads) move up the north face through those trees to F1.
3 half squads mounted in the 3 Bren Carriers will try to make it to the trees in F4, F6, G5. They'll also act as tank bait.... unfortunately for them... :P
The 3 tanks, well 2 tanks and a armoured MG platform, will have to try and keep to what cover they can until they can get good shots off.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 26, 2013, 11:02:43 AM
Barthheart - that board doesn't seem to have a fold in it...did he stop with the folding play boards?
I wish he'd make the hex numbering more prominent. I find it quite difficult to read.
I'm using a colour printer enlarged version of the board, it's just a sheet of 11x17 paper. I like to play on large hexes. 8)
Looks like you can safely take out the squad+leader in K5 by sneaking in between the F4, F6, G5 trees.
Are LnL scenario's usually on small maps like this (half a board)? It just bugs me to when you can't even get on the map without taking fire with little or no room for manuevering. JD's was small like that too IIRC.
Nah... about 20% are single maps. Most are 2 mappers. And that's a full board for LnL. Mark W. likes scenarios that get you into the action quickly.
Oh and the leader in K4 is a tank leader! He's sitting atop his Pz IVD waitin fer a target.
Quote from: Barthheart on June 26, 2013, 11:47:23 AM
Oh and the leader in K4 is a tank leader! He's sitting atop his Pz IVD waitin fer a target.
Well that changes things then! I'd take the Germans in this scenario any day - that is rough!
I agree. It should make for a good solo scenario though as the Germans can pretty much sit tight and take shots as required.
Ok let's get this rumble started.
Turn 1
Rally Phase
The British start with the initiative so no roll is needed.
No rally rolls or equipment changes for either side.
Operations Phase
Impulse 1
Major Hawkins starts the scenario with this very handy special skill. Should allow him and his platoon to live a bit longer than normal.
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Normally it's not a good idea to bunch up your infantry but to get everyone on the board in a timely manner sometimes it's necessary. Here we see Hawkins et al run for some cover in a wheat field along the south edge of the map.
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The Germans could Opportunity Fire (Op Fire) but only with Cpt. Wolf and his Pz IVD. He's waiting for a larger crunchier target so no Op Fire.
Impulse 2
Germans pass. They have all the time in the world to pick and choose their targets.
Impulse 3
Lt. Copley takes another partial platoon along the north edge of the map to hide behind some trees.
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Again no Op Fire.
Impulse 4
Germans pass.
Impulse 5
A Bren Carrier with a 1/2 squad inside tries to move up the central road and into the light woods in F4, but is Op Fired on by the Pz IIIE in K2.
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Just an aside to show everyone what all the numbers mean on the vehicle counters. The To Hit tables are on the back side of the AFV's.
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So the range to target is 6 hexes, which means we must use the middle column to resolve the fire.
The To Hit number is 6 or less on 2D6 at this range. This is modified by the following from the Ordnance Fire Table (OFT):
-1 because the firing tank is presently open topped. (Vehicle are open by default in LnL and only marked when buttoned).
+1 because the target is a moving vehicle
+1 because the shot passes through 1 degrading hex and touches part of the art in that hex (F4)
+1 because the target is a small vehicle (this is an optional rule that I like to use)
So the German needs a 6 or less on 2D6 +2, so a 4 or less on 2D6.
He rolls an 11+2 = 13 and a miss.
Since the Bren is an open topped vehicle, he can now he fires his bow MG using the Direct Fire Table (DFT) to try and affect the crew and the passengers. This is the dangers of being open topped.
He gets 1D6 + 4 (MG FP) -1 (moving vehicle target) -1 (degrading hex), so 1D6 +2.
Roll is 3+2 = 5.
Defenders gets to roll 1D6 + 0 (smallest armour factor on vehicle).
Roll is 2. This means the Bren and 1/2 squad must each make a Damage Check (DC) of 1D6+3 verses their morale rating.
The Bren rolls a 4+3 = 7 and falls the check and so become shaken. That stops any further movement.
The 1/2 squad rolls a 2+3 = 5 and passes.
The PzIIIE gets marked with a fired marker and also gets an acquiring marker on the Bren. This will make its next shot easier to hit as long as neither he nor the Bren move before that shot happens.
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Impulse 6
Germans pass.
Impulse 7
Another Bren and 1/2 squad move to the woods in G7. Cpt. Wolf again holds his fire.
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Impulse 8
Germans pass.
Impulse 9
This Bren Carrier has had its bow MG replaced with a Boys ATR and makes it a little bit more dangerous.
It moves to F6 to try and threaten the German vehicles. The Pz IIC doesn't like that and Op Fires.
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The PzIIC To Hit table looks like this. Also note that on the front of the counter there is a "3X" next to the HE equivalent. This means that it's main armament gets to fire 3 times in one attack.
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Range is 7 so To Hit is 5 or less on 2D6 modified by:
-1 open topped firer
+1 moving vehicle target
+1 target in Light Woods terrain
+1 small target
So that means 3 or less on 2D6, tough shot but he gets 3 tries!
1st shot rolls snake eyes! That's an automatic hit.
Now we check the penetration value of the shot. last number in the To Hit column. It's a 1. So his penetration rolls is 1D6 +1. He rolls a 2+1 =3. This is now compared to a defence roll for armour. The Bren has a front armour rating of 1 so he gets 1D6+1 and rolls 3+1 = 4. No penetration. Spang!
A no penetration hit results in a morale check for the Bren. This is modified by the difference between the penetration roll and the armour roll, in this case 1. So the Bren rolls 2D6 -1 and gets 7-1 = 6 and passes. No effect from the shot.... the crew have balls of steel!
2nd shot 7+2 = 9 and miss.
3rd shot 8+2 = 10 and miss.
Now he tries to machine guns the bastards. 1D6+2(FP)-1( moving target), rolls 3+1 = 4
Defence rolls 1D6 +1(light woods), gets 6+1 = 7 no effect.
PzIIC gets an acquisition marker on the Bren.
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Impulse 10
Germans pass.
Impulse 11
First British tank, if you can call it that, buttons up and moved to E7. This is a Vickers LT, basically a very light tank with a heavy machine gun. It can still penetrate light armour so maybe not completely useless.
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Impulse 12
Germans pass.
Impulse 13
British Cruiser A10 buttons up and assault moves to C4. Assault Move (AM) allows a unit to move and fire in the same impulse but take half of the units MPs. A10 only have 6 MP's but the Brit want a chance at a shot. Cpt. Wolf springs to action and fires at the A10 before the A10 can fire!
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Here's a comparison of the 2 tanks. Pretty evenly matched with the A10 slightly better. Notice that the A10's HE equivalent value is an asterisk. This means that it can only shot AP shells and has no HE. Silly Brits!
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Range is 8. To Hit is 5 or less on 2D6 -1 open topped, -1 for leadership value, +1 moving target, +1 degrading hex - Bren in E4. So 2D6 even. Rolls a 5! Hit! Roll is odd so shot hit the hull.
Penetration value is 1D6 + 2. Rolls 6+2 = 8. Best possible shot.
Armour value is 1D6 + 4(front hull armour). Rolls 5+4 = 9. Spang!
A10 makes morale check for non-penetrating hit. Rolls 2D6 - 1 and gets 4-1 = 3 no effect.
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Return fire! To Hit is 6 or less on 2D6 +2 for AM, +1 degrading hex E4. So 2D6 +3. Rolls 9+3 = 12. Miss.
Fires MG at Cpt. Wolf. 1D6 +4(FP) -2(AM) -1(degrading hex E4). Rolls 5+1 = 6.
Cpt. Wolf defends with 1D6 + 1(smallest armour factor). Rolls 3+1 = 4. Damage Check +2.
Wolf rolls 1D6+2, 3+2 = 5 much less than his morale of 8, no effect. The Cpt. is made of stronger stuff than that!
Each vehicle has acquired the other.
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Impulse 14
Germans pass.
Impulse 15
Cpt. Pender buttons his A10 and enters the fray at full throttle and moves to E2. PzIIIE in K1 fires!
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Range is 6. To Hit is 6 or less on 2D6 -1 open topped, +1 moving target, +1 degrading hex J2.
Rolls 8+1 = 9 misses. Can't use MG because A10 is buttoned up.
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Impulse 16
Germans pass.
Impulse 17
Brits pass.
Impulse 18
Germans pass. 3 passes in a row ends the operation phase.
Admin Phase
Remove all the admin markers. This is the situation at the end of turn 1.
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Brits got everyone on the board with only 1 shaken Bren Carrier. I call that a successful turn.
Whomever gets the initiative next turn will get first shot! Going to be a big roll!
very interesting. and why didn't you offer to do this for our front page?! ;)
Quote from: bayonetbrant on July 01, 2013, 08:22:32 AM
very interesting. and why didn't you offer to do this for our front page?! ;)
Dunno... you can use there if you want. It took me about 10 minutes to play the turn but about 6 hours for pics and write up. Not sure I could keep that up and meet some kind of print deadline.
If you want to move this to the front page with no pressure of when the next installment might happen then sure lets do it. 8)
I have the write up in a word document if that helps.
Might be hard though if I want to make this interactive......
I'm just giving you crap - it's a very well-done ADAR that nicely explains the LnL rules to people as its running.
Personally, I vote for massing fire on one of the German panzers while moving the infantry forward. Somewhere you're going to need to create a localized overmatch to punch through the Germans, but that's going to be very hard with multiple tanks straddling the road. You gotta get at least one of them out of commission.
This is an awesome DAR but I have no idea how you are going to pull this off especially if the Brits lose the initiative roll.
Hey Barthheart - nice read so far and nice touch with the graphics.
Can I clarify
a couple of things from Impulse 5
First, the OFT - you say the range is 6 so you have to use the middle column...I presume that's because (looking at the OFT range band) 1-5 would use the first column, 6-9 would use the second and 10-18 would use the third? (I'm just checking because the range was 6 and there IS actually a 6 on there it confused me somewhat).
And also - Quote
-1 because the firing tank is presently open topped. (Vehicle are open by default in LnL and only marked when buttoned).
+1 because the target is a moving vehicle
+1 because the shot passes through 1 degrading hex and touches part of the art in that hex (F4)
+1 because the target is a small vehicle (this is an optional rule that I like to use)
So the German needs a 6 or less on 2D6 +2, so a 4 or less on 2D6.
He rolls an 11+2 = 13 and a miss.
Should one of those +1's be a -1? Just that the +2 doesn't add up with those modifiers.forget the strike through text - I think I've got it!Of course I have no idea of tank warfare or the OFT in this game - so I reading with interest.
removed the bit I had written here because I saw MY error!
For clarification - the modifiers are on THE DICE ROLL - NOT the To Hit value. I'm more really saying that for my benefit and anyone else who's confused because they did take me some getting used to. Initially I always thought I had to apply the modifiers to the To Hit value which makes the modifiers non-sensicle!
So modifiers are on the DICE rolls - not the To Hit value!
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 02, 2013, 01:34:15 AM
Hey Barthheart - nice read so far and nice touch with the graphics.
Thanks.
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Can I clarify a couple of things from Impulse 5
First, the OFT - you say the range is 6 so you have to use the middle column...I presume that's because (looking at the OFT range band) 1-5 would use the first column, 6-9 would use the second and 10-18 would use the third? (I'm just checking because the range was 6 and there IS actually a 6 on there it confused me somewhat).
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Yes. You look at the first row on the To Hit table and find the column that has a value that is greater than or equal to your range to target. The three numbers in this case are 5,9,18. Since range of 6 is greater than 5 you need to use the next column.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on July 01, 2013, 08:34:07 AM
I'm just giving you crap - it's a very well-done ADAR that nicely explains the LnL rules to people as its running.
Personally, I vote for massing fire on one of the German panzers while moving the infantry forward. Somewhere you're going to need to create a localized overmatch to punch through the Germans, but that's going to be very hard with multiple tanks straddling the road. You gotta get at least one of them out of commission.
Yes... I'm now thinking that I should have moved my tanks in a bunch on one side to overload it and make the Germans come to me. As it is now they can just sit and shoot.
Also need to keep the infantry's heads down because they are the only ones that can dig the German infantry out of the building.
Quote from: TheCommandTent on July 01, 2013, 07:50:59 PM
This is an awesome DAR but I have no idea how you are going to pull this off especially if the Brits lose the initiative roll.
If the British lose the roll I expect them to lose a tank.... just which one.....
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 02, 2013, 01:51:16 AM
removed the bit I had written here because I saw MY error!
For clarification - the modifiers are on THE DICE ROLL - NOT the To Hit value. I'm more really saying that for my benefit and anyone else who's confused because they did take me some getting used to. Initially I always thought I had to apply the modifiers to the To Hit value which makes the modifiers non-sensicle!
So modifiers are on the DICE rolls - not the To Hit value!
Yeah, sorry, the way I wrote that might be confusing. The modifiers are to the dice roll. I always just condense that down into a new To Hit number. A To Hit of 6 or less with a dice roll of 2D6+2, automatically means to me that I need to roll a 4 or less.
No probs and thanks. I was really saying it for clarity for myself because I did what I sometimes do - try and apply the modifiers to the to hit.
Man - working with armour has some spiffy new rules to take into account (small vehicle, open turret, no HE, allowed 3 shots!!)
I might leave tanks for a while! :)
?Does LnL call tanks with their commander/crew exposed from their hatches "Open Topped"? If so, what does it call an AFV such as the US M-10 that doesn't have a full enclosed turret (topless so to speak)?
Quote from: GJK on July 02, 2013, 10:39:18 AM
?Does LnL call tanks with their commander/crew exposed from their hatches "Open Topped"? If so, what does it call an AFV such as the US M-10 that doesn't have a full enclosed turret (topless so to speak)?
Yes, LnL terms it Open or Buttoned for tanks that can. Open topped is for vehicles that can't button up, like the Bren Carriers and the halftrack in this scenario.
Hey Barthheart - is this still going fella?