What's your favorite? The last game I played set during the U.S. Vietnam War was Microprose' Conflict in Vietnam when I was ~14. Right now I am eyeing Men of War: Vietnam. Anything else you guys can recommend?
Depends what style you want I suppose. I think HPS has a counter moving game...squad battles I believe, set in Vietnam. I like Strike Fighters 2 Vietnam. Not much for simulating land based guerrilla warfare so it's napalm and 20% sidewinder kill rates for me
I'll take almost anything...FPS, TBS, RTS or a sim. Curious about the Men of War game.
Not sure, but I bet of you looked at the big FPS games like Call of Duty, RO and such, you may find a Vietnam war mod???
Edit: here is one for ARMA 2
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=12268
Interesting. Keep'em coming. I'm also interested in the French and Japanese involvements in Vietnam but short of a game of Civ V I am thinking that games with those countries will be few and far between.
There's a whole series of Vietnam scenarios for TOAW III
https://sites.google.com/site/vietnamcombatoperations/
Who remembers the VietCong FPS series? That was great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L13coAntFm8
The grog in me still loves the Squad Battles Vietnam titles.
Hmm that last one listed for TOAW (1975) sounds interesting...it would be cool to try to hold off the final communist push.
There was Battlefield: Vietnam and a Vietnam expansion for Battlefield Bad Company 2. HPS has 2 Vietnam titles for Squad Battles, and the Modern Air Power: Vietnam game.
It's old but I liked an FPS called Vietcong. It was made by the same studio that made one of my all time favourite games, Hidden and Dangerous 2. I don't know if you can still find it anywhere (or if it'll even run on a modern Windows PC) but it might be worth a shot. Try to find the Euro version as the US one was edited to remove naughty language because, you know, simulating shooting someone in the face is fine, but don't you dare use salty language!
EDIT: Jomni beat me too it.
Quote from: jomni on June 26, 2013, 08:09:59 PM
Who remembers the VietCong FPS series? That was great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L13coAntFm8
The grog in me still loves the Squad Battles Vietnam titles.
Yep, loved it too.
What we REALLY need is an operational level computer game covering the entire war on the same scale as Victory games Vietnam board game from the early 80's. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975). Unfortunately I'm not thrilled with the modded scenario for Advanced Tactics: Gold which set out to do just that.
List from Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_in_games
Quote from: Ubercat on June 26, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
What we REALLY need is an operational level computer game covering the entire war on the same scale as Victory games Vietnam board game from the early 80's. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975). Unfortunately I'm not thrilled with the modded scenario for Advanced Tactics: Gold which set out to do just that.
I tried that too. But there's something wrong the scoring. I started an AAR here way back I think.
Quote from: Ubercat on June 26, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
What we REALLY need is an operational level computer game covering the entire war on the same scale as Victory games Vietnam board game from the early 80's. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975). Unfortunately I'm not thrilled with the modded scenario for Advanced Tactics: Gold which set out to do just that.
+1 For this. The VG board game is a classic. It would be great to have a computer version.
Anyone play the Men of War Vietnam game? Thanks for the above list jomni.
I think Jarhead did. I recall a lot of chatter about it being ridiculously hard and many people quit in frustration before even being able to successfully complete the first mission.
I think I can honestly say I've never played a game set in the Vietnam War.
Try Conflict in Vietnam on an emulator and take it from there.
Ridiculously hard eh...*sigh*
Sadly, this is a horribly under-represented war for wargaming.
My favorite game set in the Vietnam war is Strike Fighters 2 with the Green Hell mod.
There is a Vietnam mod for ARMA2, probably the same one linked above, that you can grab and read more about at PMC: http://tactical.nekromantix.com/vte/index.php
I've screwed around with it some and it's fun if you like ARMA2, although it's a bit rough around the edges. I asked Snakeman (the moderator) about getting his mod picked up by Planned Assault but I don't think he did so. Too bad, because it would really increase the playability of the mod.
Unfortunately, boardgaming is where it's at if you want to really game Vietnam.
there was a pretty damn decent Vietnam mod for CC3. full up on infantry SOG groups vs VC fire fight sound effects were great for their day.
HPS has three of the Tiller Squad Battles games in the time period you're interested in: Vietnam, Tour of Duty and Dien Bien Phu. I've not played either of those two but have played other games in this series. Their pretty nice if you want turn-based small unit tactics games. They also carry the Tiller game War Over Vietnam in his Modern Air Power series.
Pat Proctor's Air Assault Task Force contains some Vietnam scenarios, primarily focused on (surprise) Air Cav and Air Assault actions. These are graphically minimal and very grog-oriented games, but again very nice if you're interested in that. There is less minutiae management in these than in the Squad Battles games. The emphasis is on sound tactics. You're really in the role of Battalion/Brigade commander in these. Shrapnel carries these.
Quote from: Ubercat on June 26, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
What we REALLY need is an operational level computer game covering the entire war on the same scale as Victory games Vietnam board game from the early 80's. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975). Unfortunately I'm not thrilled with the modded scenario for Advanced Tactics: Gold which set out to do just that.
There are a couple TOAW3 scenarios that use the old VG game as a basis. I believe some are included with the base game.
Of course, the mechanics aren't the same.
Edit: I own HPS Tour of Duty and it's a pretty good Squad Battles game with a wider variety of forces than the original. I specifically recall some Aussie scenarios along with a handful of riverine scenarios, hot airmobile LZs, etc.
El Justo's "The Vietnam War Deluxe ~ 1965-1975" for Civilization 3: Conquests. I know C3C is an old game but this scenario is the best I've ever played covering the Vietnam War.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=222604
Quote from: W8taminute on June 26, 2013, 11:07:04 PM
El Justo's "The Vietnam War Deluxe ~ 1965-1975" for Civilization 3: Conquests. I know C3C is an old game but this scenario is the best I've ever played covering the Vietnam War.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=222604
NOT A WARGAME! Lol!
^LOL
Yes I know but this guy put a lot of work into it.
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That looks pretty impressive for a mod.
The HPS Dien Bien Phu game sounds perfect....will check it out. Thanks all for the above.
I know that you're probably looking for a PC game covering the conflict so that you can play vs the AI but there's some excellent boardgames covering the conflict and they are solitaire friendly and of course a blast to play vs another human. Each of these have VASSAL modules and so could be played online live or via email or just solitaire on your computer.
1. VG's Vietnam (already mentioned): An incredible simulation of the entire war. It covers everything you'd want and then some but it's also long and fairly complex though there are shorter scenarios. Obtaining a physical copy of the game is fairly easy though not as cheap lately as it used to be. Looks like this one is making a comeback with the high prices. There's a vassal module for it with a number of people signed up as players.
2. Victory in Vietnam II (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6721/victory-in-vietnam): This is the "micro" version of VG's Vietnam but a great game in it's own right. This would be my choice for playing on vassal (there is a module). Obtaining a copy is a bit difficult (I was lucky to of gotten mine) but the rules are available on the Geek so you could give it a "test run" on vassal.
3. Hearts and Minds (recently funded for a reprint: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227780190/hearts-and-minds-reprint?ref=search): I don't have any experience with this game but it looks like it would be a good pbem game.
4. Lock-n-Load Forgotten Heroes (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6542/lock-n-load-forgotten-heroes-vietnam): Tactical Vietnam. I have very little experience with this gaming system but it has a very large following and lots of electronic play-aids (vassal, etc). Matrix Games has been working on a PC conversion of it for the last 50 years (literally). Check the tabletop AAR's section here to get a good idea on how the game plays.
Fields of Fire (http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/22877/fields-of-fire): I have the reprint on P500 and can't wait to give it a try. I hear that this game is the ultimate in tactical realism but it is also a bear to learn (reprint is going to clean up the rules they say). A vassal module is available. Check out the video section on that Geek link to see how this one plays.
And there's dozens more Vietnam war boardgames if you search the Geek: http://tinyurl.com/o7geasd
Again, I realize that you're looking for a PC game but boardgaming has this topic covered much more vastly.
Actually in the middle of a PBEM of Vietnam Squad Battles atm. I love squad battles.
does anybody remember SEAL from about 1993
I loved playing Seal Team, one of my all time favorite games.
I loved SEAL Team, as well. I still have the CD-Rom.
Quote from: Gusington on June 26, 2013, 07:59:14 PM
Interesting. Keep'em coming. I'm also interested in the French and Japanese involvements in Vietnam but short of a game of Civ V I am thinking that games with those countries will be few and far between.
I think there was an ARMAII mod called "In Country"...Great name anyway...vague memories, hallucinagentic memories, sweaty face
lots of scotch, Julie Christy, Doctor Zhuvago, ... I think i played some kind of Arma game with all kinds of camoflaged commies and vagueness, more scotch, Purple Rain (oops, that's the artist formerly known as Ho Chi Min) or Purple something...
Wow, uh, dude,it turns out I was in Nam after all. What happened was it was the Experience mod in all the ARMAs. No wonder I was a bit vague. I must have been back in 3 or 4 vaguely remembered versions over a ten-year period. Thanks to everybody in this thread who remembered what I would otherwise have forgotten.
There might have been a French ARMA mod with a nam component. Oh boy. Way down the jungle trail on that one. Don't step in that pugilist thing.
There was also an add-on for VBS-1 focused on the Australian committment in Vietnam.
Thanks all, and thanks GJK for the board games.
Can someone explain to me the Magic: Vietnam game? WTF
^Don't bother...it is not the game you are looking for...
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Quote from: mirth on June 26, 2013, 08:21:03 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on June 26, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
What we REALLY need is an operational level computer game covering the entire war on the same scale as Victory games Vietnam board game from the early 80's. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975). Unfortunately I'm not thrilled with the modded scenario for Advanced Tactics: Gold which set out to do just that.
+1 For this. The VG board game is a classic. It would be great to have a computer version.
+2 - The VG game was excellent.
Quote from: mirth on June 26, 2013, 08:21:03 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on June 26, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
What we REALLY need is an operational level computer game covering the entire war on the same scale as Victory games Vietnam board game from the early 80's. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975). Unfortunately I'm not thrilled with the modded scenario for Advanced Tactics: Gold which set out to do just that.
+1 For this. The VG board game is a classic. It would be great to have a computer version.
Great game. It had a lot of unique ideas and it never played the same way twice.
Only because I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet (and you really need to be an air war geek to love it.)
HPS War Over Vietnam
Quote from: Marty Ward on June 27, 2013, 03:03:42 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 26, 2013, 08:21:03 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on June 26, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
What we REALLY need is an operational level computer game covering the entire war on the same scale as Victory games Vietnam board game from the early 80's. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975). Unfortunately I'm not thrilled with the modded scenario for Advanced Tactics: Gold which set out to do just that.
+1 For this. The VG board game is a classic. It would be great to have a computer version.
Great game. It had a lot of unique ideas and it never played the same way twice.
If you can get a copy of Victory in Vietnam II, it's very much like VG's Vietnam but on a much more manageable scale. This one was a DTP and then a 2nd edition came out but is now OOP but I believe they are working to re-release it (I hope - I only have the 1st edition). See some comments here:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/collection/items/boardgame/6721?comment=1
Again, the rules and vassal module are easy to obtain if you feel the desire to give it a go.
This campaign for Flight Commander 2 was decent
http://home.comcast.net/~hagler11/fc2/subpages/vietnam.html
Oh F**k @ 29:15.
???
**** that is so hardcore.
You're not ready, Gus. ::)
Incredible. It made me think of '13th Valley' for some reason.
I might be ready....
Quote from: Ubercat on June 26, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
What we REALLY need is an operational level computer game covering the entire war on the same scale as Victory games Vietnam board game from the early 80's. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5620/vietnam-1965-1975). Unfortunately I'm not thrilled with the modded scenario for Advanced Tactics: Gold which set out to do just that.
There is a scenario based on the Victory Games Vietnam for TOAW III . It is excellent, and easily the best strategic level Vietnam game on the PC.