We have a wild pig infestation at the hunting lease. The are considered a nuisance under game laws and can be shot with no limits and you can also use bait since it is not deer season.
I don't think I have the right gun for the job. I could either use my Super Black Eagle 2 with buckshot or my 1903A3 .306 rifle. Both have problems for this use. The shotgun only holds three rounds and has a short range. The 1903A3 is a bolt action and holds only a few rounds.
I'm considering borrowing a AR-15 variant chambered in .308 or similar round that holds at least 15 rounds.
Do any of you have any suggestions? I'm in Alabama so the laws on long guns are not terribly restrictive.
Call Jarhead and the boys in for a Grogheads Range Day? Have him bring down 10-15 various rifles and have the local BBQ boys ready for the 'clean up' :)
Seriously, though - my uncle used to use a stock AR15 for the occasional wild hogs that would wander into my Grandmother's yard.
Since wild pigs aren't protected, you could just set up a pen and baited feeding station. Install a door once the wild hogs get in, doesn't let them escape.
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Dude, use the bolt action. One shot- one kill and all that.
C'mon, you can't go hunting pigs with a machine gun, can you?
yes you can.
Call me crazy, but that seems unsporting in some way... ::)
But probably a lot of fun, except for the pigs of course.
i opt for a Mossberg 500 ATP 6S (its the model with the slug barrel) :)
Quote from: Toonces on July 07, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
Call me crazy, but that seems unsporting in some way... ::)
youve never had a 500 lb hog charging at you.
it only happened to me once and I never went back to that bar.
Quote from: Toonces on July 07, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
Call me crazy, but that seems unsporting in some way... ::)
Sporting would be hunting them with a spear.
Maybe a bow.
At worst, black powder, single shot rifle.
However, my recommendation would be to go with the AR-15 in .308. Probably overkill, but you'll enjoy lots of bacon!
Make it a fun challenge. I say use a KSG shotgun with slugs. (mine's been on back-order for 8 god damned months and still shows no signs of arriving anytime soon. :'()
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What kind of choke does that puppy have ?
Oh.... and check this out !
http://www.tacticalhogcontrol.com/
I would have thought the entire forum armed with a fork each, ketchup and bread and butter while gus mans the bbq would be suffice
Uou expect a fellow Jew to grill hog? :o
Quote from: MIGMaster on July 10, 2013, 06:44:56 AM
What kind of choke does that puppy have ?
Oh.... and check this out !
http://www.tacticalhogcontrol.com/
You'll note they use .223, though they go up to .308.
Quote from: MIGMaster on July 10, 2013, 06:44:56 AM
What kind of choke does that puppy have ?
You can get it either open choke or choked cylinder bore. You also have the option of using an adapter that'll take Remington chokes as well.
I had a Rem 870 that I used for Patridge hunting - hunted mostly on old logging roads and I used an extra full Turkey Choke - it was great! I was getting some real good patterns at longer ranges. Hit 2 or 3 birds that my buddy's modified would not touch.
you had a gun! in Canada!
que the black helicopters!
oh wait, you dont have any anymore. ;)
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 10, 2013, 11:35:48 AM
you had a gun! in Canada!
que the black helicopters!
oh wait, you dont have any anymore. ;)
Sure they do. All they need to do is go down to the local constable's office and ask for it back.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 07, 2013, 09:23:25 PM
Make it a fun challenge. I say use a KSG shotgun with slugs. (mine's been on back-order for 8 god damned months and still shows no signs of arriving anytime soon. :'()
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That is sweet. There's a UTAS-15 which looks interesting but from the limited reading I've done the KSG is considered better. Would love to hear your thoughts on it once you get it.
for when you positively have to kill every hog on the planet.
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Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2013, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: Toonces on July 07, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
Call me crazy, but that seems unsporting in some way... ::)
youve never had a 500 lb hog charging at you.
it only happened to me once and I never went back to that bar.
+1
Quote from: LongBlade on July 10, 2013, 12:37:39 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 07, 2013, 09:23:25 PM
Make it a fun challenge. I say use a KSG shotgun with slugs. (mine's been on back-order for 8 god damned months and still shows no signs of arriving anytime soon. :'()
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That is sweet. There's a UTAS-15 which looks interesting but from the limited reading I've done the KSG is coensidered better. Would love to hear your thoughts on it once you get it.
I was going to go with the UTS-15 originally because I liked the fact that you could set the selector to feed alternately from both tube mags whereas you can't with the KSG. After reading several forum reviews and watching some user vids, I decided to order the KSG instead as there were a large number of complaints about poor reliability and lots of misfeeds with the UTS. The company I ordered my shotgun from has since stopped importing the UTAS because so many people were dissatisfied.
That looks like something out of Interstellar Marines.
Quote from: Toonces on July 10, 2013, 08:57:52 PM
That looks like something out of Interstellar Marines.
I'm thinking it's about perfect for home defense. Four or five guys break in with ill intent. You've got more than amble ammo available without reloading to discourage them until the cops arrive.
ya'll should buy something before syfy's release of Hognado scares people.
What's the purpose of a Picatinny Rail?
And what's that trigger looking thing in the little half circle triangle thingy at the rear/shoulder end of the stock?
Is that a real gun or are you guys just messing with me?
the rails are universal firm mounts for anything you can think of. scopes, lights, lasers, beer can openers, bi-pods... stuff like that. Picatinny is the Army development depot where they were invented. the 'trigger thingy' is just a support brace though I imagine you could latch a sling mount there. and yes its a real gun.
sheeesh..... squids. ::)
maybe this visual will help as all of those things fit on those rails:
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Quote from: Toonces on July 10, 2013, 10:31:57 PM
What's the purpose of a Picatinny Rail?
And what's that trigger looking thing in the little half circle triangle thingy at the rear/shoulder end of the stock?
Either a support piece to lend strength or it's a clip to allow you to extend or retract the butt.
And yes, it's a real shotgun.
its a cross brace. as far as I can tell it doesnt move.
butt thank you for retracting your butt.
Quote from: Toonces on July 10, 2013, 10:33:18 PM
Is that a real gun or are you guys just messing with me?
Myth Confirmed: http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/shotguns/ksg/
keltec's are pos ghetto guns IMHO.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 10, 2013, 08:03:56 AM
Uou expect a fellow Jew to grill hog? :o
This is probably the single biggest reason I could never be a practicing Jew (at least not a very good one). I love ham & bacon too much. ;D
They're cheap and cheaply made.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 11, 2013, 09:56:46 AM
They're cheap and cheaply made.
That's a shame. It's a great concept.
That's the general consensus regarding most Kel-Tec stuff yet the KSG is getting positive reviews with quite a few commenting on how surprised they were to find that the KSG seems to be a solid performer.
If I had the opportunity to go hog hunting in Alabama I'd probably use it as an excuse to get a lever action chambered in .45-70 or .450 marlin. I've been wanting one for years. The best gun to use though is always the one you have, slugs from a shotgun can't go wrong. I have a Browning A-bolt chambered in .300 win mag that has shot its fair share of elk and deer that would do wonderful if I had 75+ yards. If I was to buy a semi-auto for the job it would be some variant of Springfield's M1A. I used the M14 in the military and fell in love with it.
Since wild hogs are an invasive species many of the regular hunting laws don't apply. All kinds of videos on YouTube hunters using traps, vehicles, helicopters, even night vision.
If you were a farmer could probably write off a high end .308 semi auto and a gen 4 night scope as a business expense.
Quote from: Toonces on July 07, 2013, 02:07:32 PM
Dude, use the bolt action. One shot- one kill and all that.
C'mon, you can't go hunting pigs with a machine gun, can you?
You used to be able to in Belgium until 2006.
It's probably easier to set up a Claymore in their expected path. Not very sporting though. On second thoughts use a Fougasse so you don't have to go to the trouble of setting up the BBQ. ;) :D
^LOL - Good sound practical thinking that man!