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Title: Tank statistics
Post by: Keunert on July 10, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
If you were a tanker in ww2 how big was your chance to survive the destruction of your vehicle? is there data where one could see the survival chance of the crew? i guess that was quite different from tank to tank or if your vehicle was destroyed by tank / at or air.

any info is appreciated!
Title: Re: Tank statistics
Post by: LongBlade on July 10, 2013, 04:05:06 PM
Ah.

Beware. There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

So when you're looking at said stats, be sure you know what you're looking at. The US often "recycled" destroyed equipment. When you're looking at said stats of "killed" tanks be sure your source takes into account whether cycling back a destroyed tank counted as a kill or not.

Cooper's Death Traps will give you an excellent understanding of how such stats might be misread/abused. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0891418148/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0891418148&linkCode=as2&tag=grogheads-20
Title: Re: Tank statistics
Post by: GDS_Starfury on July 10, 2013, 04:26:02 PM
if you were in a M-4 or T-34 your chances were not good.
Title: Re: Tank statistics
Post by: Staggerwing on July 10, 2013, 06:03:50 PM
OTOH, inside a Matilda II (early in the war) or ISU-152 was not a bad place to be, all things considered.
Title: Re: Tank statistics
Post by: GDS_Starfury on July 10, 2013, 06:32:05 PM
Ill stick with my Ferdinand thanks.
Title: Re: Tank statistics
Post by: LongBlade on July 10, 2013, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 10, 2013, 06:32:05 PM
Ill stick with my Ferdinand thanks.

All 89 of them? When they actually had drive trains that worked?
Title: Re: Tank statistics
Post by: Staggerwing on July 10, 2013, 08:04:31 PM
LOL.
I'd at least opt for the Elefant upgrade w/ MG and top cupola. The PaK43 was a fearsome AT gun but not the best thing for hosing pissed-off sticky-bomb-totin' Heroes-of-the-Motherland from your hull and upper deck.
Title: Re: Tank statistics
Post by: GDS_Starfury on July 10, 2013, 08:22:23 PM
WoT has spoiled me.
Title: Re: Tank statistics
Post by: LongBlade on July 10, 2013, 08:46:55 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 10, 2013, 08:22:23 PM
WoT has spoiled me.

As have their mechanics.