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Title: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2013, 06:34:11 AM
Fortunately no injuries to the crews.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/09/01/navy-investigating-training-exercise-that-went-dramatically-wrong-after-two-canadian-warships-collide/
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 02, 2013, 06:35:15 AM
playing chicken and realized neither one of them had Francophone crews?
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2013, 06:59:35 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on September 02, 2013, 06:35:15 AM
playing chicken and realized neither one of them had Francophone crews?

As someone of French Canadian ancestry, you have insulted my honor and I challenge you to a duel! Gus will serve as my proxy in said duel.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 02, 2013, 07:08:52 AM
Hey, I'm of French-Canadian ancestry, too - just, y'know, by way of Louisiana
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: besilarius on September 02, 2013, 08:16:03 AM
I recommend that in true historical grognard style, you take this duel to the historical site where Stephen Decatur was killed by Samuel Barron.
This is a small national park in Bladensburg, Md., just outside the border of the District of Columbia (where dueling was illegal).  The "dark, and bloody ground" is pretty small, but rather pleasant with children's play sets.  Still, the actual duelling ground is preserved; it is open with clear fields of fire.
Not only will you defend your honor, but will do it in an historical and heavily used site.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 02, 2013, 08:32:08 AM
Quote from: besilarius on September 02, 2013, 08:16:03 AMand heavily used site.

I hope it's been used lately!

And by "lately" I mean within the past 6 weeks or so...  how cool would that be?
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2013, 08:46:45 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on September 02, 2013, 07:08:52 AM
Hey, I'm of French-Canadian ancestry, too - just, y'know, by way of Louisiana

So we'll both be using proxies for the duel?
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: besilarius on September 02, 2013, 09:37:43 AM
My eyes aren't so good for target shooting anymore (even at the enormous distance of ten paces), but I will be happy to volunteer as a second for either of the duellists.   Getting the required MO, mainly to assign the time of death, could be an issue in this unenlightened time.
Can also offer a nice spread before, or after, the drawing of blood, for any survivors.  Traditionally, it would be hot, black coffee, fresh bread, and bacon.  And, of course, various flasks of "medicinal" spirits.   However, there is a Dunkin's Donut nearby, an IHOP, and a Burger King.
Croissanwich for all!
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: besilarius on September 02, 2013, 10:00:02 AM
Mirth, it occurs to me, that as the aggrieved party, it is your choice as to which weapons are used.
Now, we all think of american duels revolving around pistols (Decatur and Barron, Hamilton and Burr, etc.), but that is not true.
Think of the duel over Paris where hot air balloons with blunderbuss were the weapons of choice.  Otto von Bismarck was supposedly involved in a duel where the aggrieved party chose two sausages.  The macguffin there was that one was ifected with trichinosis.  Naturally, Bismarck refused such a dishonorable way of resolving a matter of honor.
Now I would suggest, that due tot he recent release of Rome II, it would be right and proper to use weaponry from that time period.  The roman infantryman's gladius comes to mind.  Perhaps the pilum.
Still, I think the best weapons would for both parties to be armed with the Macedonian sarissa.  What could be fairer, and more groglike, than to be stabbing each other with sixteen foot pikes?
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: Staggerwing on September 02, 2013, 10:23:23 AM
A much better choice of weapons with period 'flavor' would be two water-balloons full of Garum. Loser may not shower for the rest of the day.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: LongBlade on September 02, 2013, 10:53:49 AM
I like the blunderbuss + zeppelin solution.

The only thing better might be some sort of Tesla lightning pistol or something.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: besilarius on September 02, 2013, 11:16:43 AM
The hot air balloon with blunderbuss was a Klassik.  But it did cause an excess of casualties.  Both parties rose up in their balloons, but as the Code Duello required, their seconds went up with them.
Thus when one got a hit on the opponents balloon, when the balloon crashed, the second also perished.
I believe that some versions of the Code allowed the seconds to take over if the aggrieved party was wounded too badly to continue.  Still, the seconds were there to maintain rational thought, not to themselves die.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2013, 12:23:29 PM
^I like that. If I'm going to die, you can be damned sure I'm taking my second to hell with me.

Balloons and blunderbusses it is!
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: besilarius on September 02, 2013, 12:31:11 PM
If you and Brant will set a date, I'd be happy to reserve the Bladensburg duelling grounds. 
Can easily fit this into the category of a family party.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: Staggerwing on September 02, 2013, 01:28:30 PM
Can you get a beer permit for the day as well?
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2013, 01:36:37 PM
There aren't going to be damn permits! How do you get a permit to do a damn illegal thing?!
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: LongBlade on September 02, 2013, 01:55:40 PM
Well, then sneak some red wine in. I'm not going to drive across the country for a five second blast of blunderbuss by itself.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2013, 02:05:15 PM
Romulan Ale. I only use it for medicinal purposes.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: Staggerwing on September 02, 2013, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: mirth on September 02, 2013, 01:36:37 PM
There aren't going to be damn permits! How do you get a permit to do a damn illegal thing?!

Then why does Bes need to get a reservation? I assumed this was all under the guise of holding a RenFaire or 18Cen reenactment or something. If any of the park police ask tell 'em it's an SCA tourny.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2013, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on September 02, 2013, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: mirth on September 02, 2013, 01:36:37 PM
There aren't going to be damn permits! How do you get a permit to do a damn illegal thing?!

Then why does Bes need to get a reservation? I assumed this was all under the guise of holding a RenFaire or 18Cen reenactment or something. If any of the park police ask tell 'em it's an SCA tourny.

I was quoting Dr. Leonard McCoy from the classic bar scene in Search for Spock when he was trying to charter a ship to Genesis.

Geez people, where are the Geeks here?
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: Staggerwing on September 02, 2013, 02:52:11 PM
Sorry, forgot about that one. Having a failing memory is no reason to surrender my geek card.  :P
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2013, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on September 02, 2013, 02:52:11 PM
Sorry, forgot about that one. Having a failing memory is no reason to surrender my geek card.  :P

Nobody gets me :P
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: besilarius on September 02, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
Well, brant might, if he's good with a blunderbuss - and not afflicted with airsickness.
Mirth, I'd recommend some serious black powder practice, and maybe some heavy duty rides at Six Flags.

And how would you like to be remembered?  The after action Memorials are often the most touching events.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 02, 2013, 05:00:39 PM
All joking aside.  Wtf is up with the Canadian Navy?
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: mirth on September 02, 2013, 05:07:46 PM
You can't have it both ways. It's either all joking aside or we're talking about the Canadian Navy.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 02, 2013, 05:10:22 PM
It certainly helps me understand why those people can't drive in Florida.
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 02, 2013, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: mirth on September 02, 2013, 05:07:46 PM
You can't have it both ways. It's either all joking aside or we're talking about the Canadian Navy.

Dammit!
You just got me in trouble... my wife is trying to talk to me about something serious and here I'm still snickering about this 5 minutes later
Title: Re: Canadian Navy Ships Collide
Post by: besilarius on September 02, 2013, 06:20:44 PM
Tell her you're overcome at the bad shiphandling of the Canadian Navy, and saddened by how far they have fallen from their glory days during the Battle of the Atlantic.