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Title: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: LongBlade on September 09, 2013, 03:07:41 PM
Good news if you're trying to quit smoking.

A new study has been released that indicates e-cigs are at least equally effective in helping to stop smoking as a patch.

QuoteSmokers who switch to electronic cigarettes to try to kick their habit are at least as likely to succeed in quitting or cutting down as users of nicotine patches, according to research published on Sunday.  The findings come less than a week after a government study found that the use of e-cigarettes has doubled among teenagers.

In a first-of-its-kind study, researchers compared electronic, or e-cigarettes, with the more standard nicotine replacement therapy patches.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/09/09/e-cigarettes-as-good-as-nicotine-patches-in-helping-smokers-quit/

Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Windigo on September 16, 2013, 11:28:29 AM
My SLCG, Kellie just got one. Seems to be working
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Grimnirsson on September 16, 2013, 12:36:26 PM
Never understood why folks need these aids, I mean if you really want to quit...you just quit.
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: LongBlade on September 16, 2013, 12:48:32 PM
Quote from: Grimnirsson on September 16, 2013, 12:36:26 PM
Never understood why folks need these aids, I mean if you really want to quit...you just quit.

Nicotine is supposed to be almost as addictive as heroin. I don't think it's that easy for most people.

My folks just quit. Not everyone is built that way. Most aren't.
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Windigo on September 16, 2013, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: Grimnirsson on September 16, 2013, 12:36:26 PM
Never understood why folks need these aids, I mean if you really want to quit...you just quit.

Some have started smoking very early in their life. Kellie started at 14, so she has smoked for more than 30 years. She simply has no frame of reference as to what not smoking is like. The e-cigarette is a bridge from not smoking cigarettes eventually to not smoking at all.
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Grimnirsson on September 16, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
I don't buy into this nicotine as addictive as heroin, sorry. I smoked my first cigarette with 11, was allowed to smoke at home with 16 and was later a chain smoker who went through almost a package of tobacco a day, which is about 60-80 cigs a day dependent on how thick you roll them. Someday I realized I would die sooner rather than later if I continue and I decided to quit. I did, I had no serious craving problems after three days or so, I never used any substitute, I just stopped smoking. I doubt it would be as easy to quit shooting H...
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: LongBlade on September 16, 2013, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Windigo on September 16, 2013, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: Grimnirsson on September 16, 2013, 12:36:26 PM
Never understood why folks need these aids, I mean if you really want to quit...you just quit.

Some have started smoking very early in their life. Kellie started at 14, so she has smoked for more than 30 years. She simply has no frame of reference as to what not smoking is like. The e-cigarette is a bridge from not smoking cigarettes eventually to not smoking at all.

Wow. Best of luck to her in her quest to stop.
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Windigo on September 16, 2013, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: Grimnirsson on September 16, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
I don't buy into this nicotine as addictive as heroin, sorry. I smoked my first cigarette with 11, was allowed to smoke at home with 16 and was later a chain smoker who went through almost a package of tobacco a day, which is about 60-80 cigs a day dependent on how thick you roll them. Someday I realized I would die sooner rather than later if I continue and I decided to quit. I did, I had no serious craving problems after three days or so, I never used any substitute, I just stopped smoking. I doubt it would be as easy to quit shooting H...

no serious cravings after day three..... you are a very rare exception to the rule my friend - count your blessings
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Arctic Blast on September 16, 2013, 04:11:54 PM
Quote from: Windigo on September 16, 2013, 03:49:48 PM
Quote from: Grimnirsson on September 16, 2013, 02:26:04 PM
I don't buy into this nicotine as addictive as heroin, sorry. I smoked my first cigarette with 11, was allowed to smoke at home with 16 and was later a chain smoker who went through almost a package of tobacco a day, which is about 60-80 cigs a day dependent on how thick you roll them. Someday I realized I would die sooner rather than later if I continue and I decided to quit. I did, I had no serious craving problems after three days or so, I never used any substitute, I just stopped smoking. I doubt it would be as easy to quit shooting H...

no serious cravings after day three..... you are a very rare exception to the rule my friend - count your blessings

Agreed. I only smoked for 5 years, and I had cravings for substantially longer than that when I quit.

Of course, I was also drinking such ludicrous quantities of caffeine at the time that I 'brilliantly' decided to quit both at the same time. That was a pleasant period of time.  >:( :o
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Greybriar on September 16, 2013, 07:02:28 PM
Quote from: Grimnirsson on September 16, 2013, 12:36:26 PM
Never understood why folks need these aids, I mean if you really want to quit...you just quit.

By the time I was admitted to a hospital for my sixth arterial bypass surgery, I had decided to quit smoking. I had smoked for thirty years and had become a heavy smoker going through three or more packs of cigarettes a day. While in the hospital awaiting surgery, I had no desire to smoke. When the surgeon came in to talk to me the day before my surgery, he told me if I didn't quit smoking he would have to amputate both my legs. I guess his "pep talk" was good reinforcement--after quitting cold turkey in 1996 I haven't smoked a cigarette since nor have I had any cravings for a cigarette or any other form of tobacco.

I believe that if there is sufficient motivation to quit smoking a person can kick the habit without resorting to E-cigs, patches, etc. However, if a person doesn't feel that he or she can, I don't begrudge them for using a crutch. The main thing is that they quit smoking and if that's what it takes for them to do so, then so be it.
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Staggerwing on September 16, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
I smoked heavily throughout my teen years and all through my 20's. I quit when my oldest son was born prematurely and spent quite a while on a ventilator (suffering from what is called Pulmonary dysplasia). I had cut back over the year before his birth from about 2 packs a day to around 1/2 a pack though, by gradually moving back the time of day when I would light my first cigaret. this method could work for others in reducing their intake: cut out the 'wake up' smoke first. Don't light up until you get ready to drive to work. hold the line there for a few weeks. Then, take away that 'to work' puff as well, staying strong until your first break/lunch/etc. After a few more weeks eliminate that one and work your way down until the first cigaret of the day is the one you fire up when you get into the car to drive home. Weekends/days off are tough but you have to hold the line until at least noon. Going out to bars will always be weapons-free until you quit for good.

That is the situation I found myself in when my son was born. Quitting for good (with plenty of back-sliding during New Years Eve parties the first few years) came shortly after.
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 16, 2013, 07:38:15 PM
I want to quit smoking but at the same time I just dont give a flip that much.  I do find that I smoke the most either while driving or at a bar.  years ago when I stopped smoking inside my home dramaticly cut back on intake.
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Greybriar on September 16, 2013, 08:06:22 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 16, 2013, 07:38:15 PM
I want to quit smoking but at the same time I just dont give a flip that much.  I do find that I smoke the most either while driving or at a bar.  years ago when I stopped smoking inside my home dramaticly cut back on intake.

If nothing else, think of all the money you would save if you quit smoking.

When I started smoking, king-sized cigarettes cost 30 cents a pack and regular non-filtered cigarettes (Camels, Lucky Strike, etc.) cost 25 cents a pack. How much are you paying?

Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 16, 2013, 08:32:03 PM
about $4.  its costs about a game a week.
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: Staggerwing on September 16, 2013, 08:34:43 PM
Or a bottle of Johnny Walker Black.
Title: Re: E-Cigs Help Smokers Stop
Post by: airboy on September 17, 2013, 01:12:05 PM
I've read a lot of the medical literature on what contributes to smoking.

Cigarettes are both physically and psychologically addictive.  Physical addition is caused by the nicotine.  It is a very difficult addition for many (but not all) to break.

Still, there are far more ex-smokers in the USA than current smokers.  But it takes most people multiple attempts to quit.