Well, this one releases just around this weekend. I am sorely tempted by the Greenmangaming 25% off coupon (which will make it a much more "normal" price rather than a premium "holy crap" price). I usually enjoy the BF games, but I am worried that my rather substantial gaming system does not actually fulfill the "Recommended System Requirements" for the game (I do have the Required System Reqs)!
Anyone play the beta? What is the deal with this one (looks a little futuristic)? Any takers?
Where is the coupon code for this. I don't see one for BF4?
I played the Beta on the Xbox 360...some things are better than in BF3, but so far it's not the big step in innovation, but I wasn't expecting that anyway. The gfx on the 360 just SUCK, so I'll get this for the PS4 which I'll get some time next year.
I played the beta. If your rig ran BF3 well, then BF4 will be no problem either, provided you might have to run at high instead of ultra.
I did experience stuttering, but DICE claims this is because there is all kinds of debugging running real time in the beta. And to be honest, I did have this issue with the beta of BF3 as well. Live game ran smooth as silk on Ultra, so I am not worried about BF4.
For your info my specs are as follows;
Win 7 64bit
8GB RAM
non-SSD harddisk
Nvidia GTX580 with 1.5GB VRAM
Intel Core 4 Quad Q9400, 2.7Ghz
One thing that is pretty weird though, is that running BF4 in Windows 8 gains you 10-20 FPS with the same graphics hardware and settings vs Windows 7.
I have no idea wether this will be the case for the live game as well.
Does make me think about wether or not I should make the jump, though. That's a lot of FPS. Allegedly this is because of some fancy DirectX 11 functions being natively supported in Win 8 which the game utilizes.
Still, I am not at all comfortable to swap my stable Win 7 to something I have no clue about concerning the state of stability and hardware compatibility. For example; getting my Soundblaster X-Fi to run properly in Win7 has been a downright pain in the arse, I doubt it will work in Win 8 without giving up a good fight either... Not looking forward to that at all.
But still... 10 to 20 FPS. ;) Makes you insecure, eh?
Anyway, the game seems to be great! It revisits some classic features like the Commander Mode. Spotting and giving orders has been streamlined and work much better, as well as relative spotting.
Destruction engine has the next version for more awesomeness and many other things are just there you would expect from the next version of the franchise.
It's still very much Battlefield. Just more awesome and frankly; what BF3 was expected to be for the PC crowd after such a long wait after 2.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on October 24, 2013, 10:06:39 AM
Well, this one releases just around this weekend. I am sorely tempted by the Greenmangaming 25% off coupon (which will make it a much more "normal" price rather than a premium "holy crap" price). I usually enjoy the BF games, but I am worried that my rather substantial gaming system does not actually fulfill the "Recommended System Requirements" for the game (I do have the Required System Reqs)!
Anyone play the beta? What is the deal with this one (looks a little futuristic)? Any takers?
Just tested it...the 25% off coupon does not work with BF4.
I'm likely to preorder. I enjoyed the third game, so the fourth seems like kind of a 'no brainer' purchase for me.
I actually really liked BF3. It was one of two, no three, FPS games I've played that I performed well in. I would get BF4 but I'm with Grim in that I will wait until next year to get the game on a PS4. Plus I suck very badly at any COD game so I'll need an alternative anyway.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on October 24, 2013, 10:30:03 AM
Where is the coupon code for this. I don't see one for BF4?
Well crap, I was hoping the one that they had up on the side, but Artic says it does not work. I'm not sure I can swing it for full price.
Ysk, you and I have pretty similar specs, so that makes me feel better. If you think it is fun, then that is a big endorsement for me!
Quote from: Yskonyn on October 24, 2013, 01:13:07 PM
I played the beta. If your rig ran BF3 well, then BF4 will be no problem either, provided you might have to run at high instead of ultra.
I did experience stuttering, but DICE claims this is because there is all kinds of debugging running real time in the beta. And to be honest, I did have this issue with the beta of BF3 as well. Live game ran smooth as silk on Ultra, so I am not worried about BF4.
For your info my specs are as follows;
Win 7 64bit
8GB RAM
non-SSD harddisk
Nvidia GTX580 with 1.5GB VRAM
Intel Core 4 Quad Q9400, 2.7Ghz
One thing that is pretty weird though, is that running BF4 in Windows 8 gains you 10-20 FPS with the same graphics hardware and settings vs Windows 7.
I have no idea wether this will be the case for the live game as well.
Does make me think about wether or not I should make the jump, though. That's a lot of FPS. Allegedly this is because of some fancy DirectX 11 functions being natively supported in Win 8 which the game utilizes.
Still, I am not at all comfortable to swap my stable Win 7 to something I have no clue about concerning the state of stability and hardware compatibility. For example; getting my Soundblaster X-Fi to run properly in Win7 has been a downright pain in the arse, I doubt it will work in Win 8 without giving up a good fight either... Not looking forward to that at all.
But still... 10 to 20 FPS. ;) Makes you insecure, eh?
Anyway, the game seems to be great! It revisits some classic features like the Commander Mode. Spotting and giving orders has been streamlined and work much better, as well as relative spotting.
Destruction engine has the next version for more awesomeness and many other things are just there you would expect from the next version of the franchise.
It's still very much Battlefield. Just more awesome and frankly; what BF3 was expected to be for the PC crowd after such a long wait after 2.
There are improvements to DirectX 11.1 in Windows 8 which result in less overhead for the same graphics calls.
Quote from: Grimnirsson on October 24, 2013, 12:57:57 PM
I played the Beta on the Xbox 360...some things are better than in BF3, but so far it's not the big step in innovation, but I wasn't expecting that anyway.
I think I was more hyped for BF4 BEFORE I played in the open beta. :) Don't get me wrong: I know it is only a matter of time before I get the game, but I am comfortable with waiting a bit before jumping in. From what I experienced in the open beta, BF4 just confirms what I suspected all along: it is more BF3.5 than a true 4.0. Some nice tweaks, but that is about it. This is why I actually am more impressed by the new CoD Ghosts. That new Squads system
is something different and could lead to a whole, new metagame (but even here I am going to wait until IW patches in a FOV slider - what a silly oversight).
I was also disappointed in the one map we got to try. I just didn't think that Singapore map was very good. It seemed to swallow up all the players, leading to very haphazard skirmishing that really didn't capture the high intensity, combined arms warfare that is at the heart of the series. I really hope the other maps are better.
Then there was that stuttering. DICE did say it had to do something with Punkbuster, but I am worried that it involves something else seeing how they never fixed it during the open beta.
Long short, this is a launch I am willing to sit out for a few weeks while all the bugs are squished, etc. :)
But if I never played BF3, would you say it is worth doing a first-day buy?
If you have not played BF3 but are interested in the gameplay I'd say BF4 will be a great starting point! All the cool toys and gameplay elements in the latest version as well. :)
The Shanghai map of the beta is just one of the many. No reason to judge the game based on one map. There will be more open maps where combined arms is more viable.
The Shanghai map is just used as its a great showcase for their new Destruction engine.
As said before; performance is likely much better in the final game.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on October 25, 2013, 06:56:08 AM
But if I never played BF3, would you say it is worth doing a first-day buy?
With a Battlefield game, a first-day buy is never a good idea. ;D I would wait at least a week. IIRC, BF3 really didn't get going until a few months post release! It usually has the typical mega-game release headaches.
Unless you are really keen for the pre-order bonus, I think BF4 is a definite wait and see.
I dunno...while BF4 looks like its just more of the same, COD: Ghosts looks like its at least trying to incorporate some fresh ideas...hello...Zero G map! K-9 units, etc. etc.
One good thing about day one gameplay, might be easier to rank up when everyone is in the same boat.
Pre-order also gets you some extra goodies, which interests me.
I've just never been one for the CoD series. I loved BF in the past (the first modern one with tanks and in the Middle East, in particular). I think I'll bite.
Or wait for titanfall - a sidestep away from both cod and bf and has big mechs
I do not agree at all that BF games should not be a day one buy.
BF 3 was a solid game from day one. Good fun and working well. The expansions only added more awesomeness.
I prefer any BF game over any CoD game at any time. Don't try to fix what isn't broken is the motto here. CoD, while indeed trying something new, is gimmicky as far as I am concerned. Whereas a huge map of conquest mode in BF never gets old with a bunch of mates.
My rig probably wouldn't be able to handle it at any decent FPS. I've always liked BF more than CoD as well, although I've played mostly modified BF 1942 and BF 2 and not the original versions. I spent/wasted hundreds of hours on Forgotten Hope.
There was just something exciting about being in a bush somewhere with a Panzerfaust/Panzerschreck or Bazooka (or that Russian AT grenade/mine with a little parachute, not an AT weapon for cowards!) and waiting for enemy armour to roll along, or parking a StuG somewhere and ruining the day of some unlucky guys in Shermans. The Shermans had regular AP shells, like every AFV, so they couldn't penetrate the frontal armour of a Panzer IVH or StuG most of the time.
I'm not sure if the more fast-paced FPS are my cup of tea. I can enjoy CoD with friends, but I prefer a somewhat slower FPS that require more planning and patience.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on October 25, 2013, 10:08:31 PM
Pre-order also gets you some extra goodies, which interests me.
I've just never been one for the CoD series. I loved BF in the past (the first modern one with tanks and in the Middle East, in particular). I think I'll bite.
You won't regret it. A lot of times the BF series debuts with minor issues - trouble with hit boxes (too small or too large), and there are usually some sort of netcode issue (but a lot of times this is due to the Day 1 crush), but the BF series always matures into one of the finest shooters you can buy. Sooner or later, we
all get it. :D
Quote from: UndercovergeekOr wait for titanfall - a sidestep away from both cod and bf and has big mechs
Definitely looking forward to this is March!
Quote from: Jarhead0331I dunno...while BF4 looks like its just more of the same, COD: Ghosts looks like its at least trying to incorporate some fresh ideas...hello...Zero G map! K-9 units, etc. etc.
I agree. A lot of people like to bash CoD as always being more of the same, and while it is true that the core shooter experience is the same, I always find that IW and Treyarch always attempt to add as much alteration to the base formula as possible (such as the new Squads system, and the much more deformable maps that are in Ghosts).
I personally enjoy both games (but statistically I enjoy BF more - I usually wrack up over 100+ hours in a BF game while only wracking up around 75-100 hours in CoD). I love BF for the big maps, and the high intensity, combined arms warfare. But I also love CoD for the small maps (yes, that can be a good thing too :) ) and the highly competitive CQB it offers. And the SP campaign in CoD is ALWAYS excellent, while BF's campaign is often very hit or miss. Really, comparing the two is like comparing Team Fortress 2 to Red Orchestra as they are both so different, and offer a vastly different take on the shooter experience - something gamers should celebrate as choice is good. Now, if they would just add a FOV slider to Ghosts I could happily pre-order (no way in heck I am playing a shooter with a 65 FOV >:( ).
BTW: the secret to really enjoying CoD is to play strictly "hardcore mode" where it is often one shot, one kill, and killstreaks are far less frequent. But for hardcore mode, I would hate CoD as "core mode" is far too game-y. I don't think enough people are aware of the two distinctive communities in CoD. :-\
I do agree that CoD offers excellent singleplayer campaigns! Every game in the series has.
Something BF is lacking in many versions indeed.
Well, I gots it and I gots it pre-locked-and-loaded.
My Origin name is bitobah, if anyone wants to friend me.
What's a 'bitobah'?
It sounds like something my one year old says at times. :)
I'll add you next time I am online. My nickname is the same as here.
Quote from: Yskonyn on October 27, 2013, 03:33:47 PM
What's a 'bitobah'?
It sounds like something my one year old says at times. :)
I'll add you next time I am online. My nickname is the same as here.
Ironically, it was how I said my name, "Christopher," when I was around one! So, good guess. The nickname just stuck with my family.
I already have BF4 preloaded :). I'm curious about CoD: Ghosts, but considering IW is only IW in name any more and all the magic that was there is now working on Titanfall, I plan on waiting to see how it is received.
Are they bringing back private servers and a proper server browser? I hardly played BF3 at all because I really disliked the web-paged based front end. I'd fire up the game, get that stupid effing screen and any interest I had in played quickly died and I shut it down again.
They are still using the battlelog interface for server browsing
I will certainly not buy it at launch, I played the dumbed-down version for XBox 360 (beta) and the gfx were underwhelming. I will wait until early next year and buy it together with a PS4 (BF4 is one of the system-sellers for me and the reason to buy a next-gen console).
Quote from: Hiimori on October 28, 2013, 02:36:50 AM
I will certainly not buy it at launch, I played the dumbed-down version for XBox 360 (beta) and the gfx were underwhelming. I will wait until early next year and buy it together with a PS4 (BF4 is one of the system-sellers for me and the reason to buy a next-gen console).
You have no business playing a shooter on a console anyway! ;)
Just kidding. But for me its mouse and keyboard All the way.
Yeah...the only time I will buy a shooter on console is if it is a console exclusive or the PC version will not be released for some time after the console version hits retail. IGN even had a preview of a demo walk through on the ps4 that noted there may be cause for concern. Even on a next gen console, the graphics were far inferior to those of the PC.
These games usually shine on the PC, but are hit or miss on any other platform, and that is just from a technical perspective....
BFFs is hilarious. Their Battleloggers show is pretty funny as well. I have enjoyed Hank and Jed ever since they started Doraleous & Associates.