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Title: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 22, 2012, 02:03:43 PM
I've talked about this bad boy before but the time has finally come.

A completely free space combat game set in the Wing Commander universe.

www.wcsaga.com

As you might expect the servers are a bit overwhelmed right now.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Shelldrake on March 22, 2012, 02:59:09 PM
Downloading right now from Gamershell.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: tgb on March 22, 2012, 05:05:36 PM
Is this legit?  What I mean is, do they have the rights to the IP?
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 22, 2012, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: tgb on March 22, 2012, 05:05:36 PM
Is this legit?  What I mean is, do they have the rights to the IP?

It's an interesting question that is somewhat addressed by these comments. http://www.wcsaga.com/news-archive-2012/clarification-in-response-to-recent-media-stories.html

I'm not a lawyer but the key thing may be the fact that this is free game. While EA has not made any attempt to shut the thing down I suspect that would change in a heartbeat if money was involved. But according to the link above EA probably could if they wanted.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: OJsDad on March 22, 2012, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on March 22, 2012, 05:17:44 PM
Quote from: tgb on March 22, 2012, 05:05:36 PM
Is this legit?  What I mean is, do they have the rights to the IP?

It's an interesting question that is somewhat addressed by these comments. http://www.wcsaga.com/news-archive-2012/clarification-in-response-to-recent-media-stories.html

I'm not a lawyer but the key thing may be the fact that this is free game. While EA has not made any attempt to shut the thing down I suspect that would change in a heartbeat if money was involved. But according to the link above EA probably could if they wanted.

I wonder if EA is taking a watch and see attitude on this.  Not to drop the hammer on them in the future, but if there is a lot of interest, then maybe EA may look at doing a reinvention of the WC universe.  On the other hand, when is the last time EA has done anything with WC, they may not care.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Toonces on March 23, 2012, 12:59:21 AM
Is this a 3rd person over the shoulder spaceship game, or are you in a cockpit of a spaceship?
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 23, 2012, 06:07:36 AM
There is no cockpit, but you get a hud, just like in the original Free Space games.  It is not third-person/over the shoulder.  I ran the first training mission last night and I must say, I'm totally impressed by what they've managed to do here.  And, heck, its free!
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Nefaro on March 23, 2012, 08:30:47 AM
Is it the "Wing commander saga: Prologue"??

I'm not seeing a link to the game in the download section.  Figure I better grab it before EA gets after them.


Bah!  Nevermind.  The download link page was in the News section of their site.
http://wcsaga.com/news-archive-2012/the-darkest-dawn-is-cleared-for-launch.html
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Shelldrake on March 23, 2012, 08:32:38 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on March 23, 2012, 08:30:47 AM
Is it the "Wing commander saga: Prologue"??

Prologue was the teaser release. The current release weighs in at 3.3 GB!
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Nefaro on March 23, 2012, 08:34:03 AM
I edited my earlier post to include the news link with downloads listed.


Considering EA committed their army of lawyers in attempting to gain exclusive rights to the word "Battlefield", I wouldn't be surprised if they took notice before long.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Toonces on March 23, 2012, 12:42:08 PM
Yep.

I d/l'd it, not even sure if I want to play it, in anticipation of it "going away."
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Gusington on March 23, 2012, 12:48:31 PM
^Never played any of the originals but I will dl it for the same reason. The guys at Rock Paper Shotgun really like it. Watch, when I get home it will be gone.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Nefaro on March 23, 2012, 06:03:58 PM
I started the prologue "training" campaign, and I can tell someone put a lot of time into bring the old Freespace engine up to date, and putting the WC stuff in. 

As for the actual gameplay.. I dunno.. I'd probably rather fire up my Evochron:Mercenary or X3 as the space flight combat plays like a much simpler version of the latter with one-off missions.  It's strength looks to be the effort put into the presentation, with the voice-acting and such (which can be a bit cheesy).  If you get into a storyline, especially of the Wing Commander type, you'll like it.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Gusington on March 24, 2012, 08:21:07 AM
Not sure when I'll play, but downloading now. Sounded too good to resist and I started to get paranoid it may disappear before I got a chance.

EDIT: ok I've downloaded it and there are multiple parts. Is there an installer hidden somewhere?
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 24, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: Gusington on March 24, 2012, 08:21:07 AM
Not sure when I'll play, but downloading now. Sounded too good to resist and I started to get paranoid it may disappear before I got a chance.

EDIT: ok I've downloaded it and there are multiple parts. Is there an installer hidden somewhere?

Gus, if your download was complete you should have a zip file containing several files PLUS a darkest-dawn-setup.exe. Click on that to get things started.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Gusington on March 24, 2012, 04:39:44 PM
Ah, I see it now. Thanks Doc.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Shelldrake on March 25, 2012, 08:07:42 AM
I have been reading through the manual and watched the leadup to the first mission. Very impressive so far. IMO the quality rivals a commercial product. The only decision whether to jump right in or to go back and play the prologue to find out what happened to the Wellington! :)
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 25, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Quote from: Shelldrake on March 25, 2012, 08:07:42 AM
I have been reading through the manual and watched the leadup to the first mission. Very impressive so far. IMO the quality rivals a commercial product. The only decision whether to jump right in or to go back and play the prologue to find out what happened to the Wellington! :)

The prologue does a good job of bringing you up to speed on the various controls in the context of their use in a mission. If you have time I would certainly recommend it.
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Ulfang on March 26, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
:) I loved my Wing Commander Days. Remember the FMV in Wing Commander III? It was like being in an interactive movie ;) And it was one of the few roles where Mark Hamill was actually half decent lol. Crazy to think that Prophecy was released in 1997! *counts fingers and toes* FIFTEEN YEARS AGO!!!

Anyone remember that other space sim that have a decent video story with it starring Clive Owen? Was it Privateer?
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Shelldrake on March 26, 2012, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: Ulfang on March 26, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
Anyone remember that other space sim that have a decent video story with it starring Clive Owen? Was it Privateer?

Yep. Privateer 2 The Darkening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6UEXAmc68 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6UEXAmc68)
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Staggerwing on March 26, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
And you just forgot to mention that Christopher Walken was in it as well?!?
It looks delightfully cheesy. I may have to track down a copy. Is the game's  video quality better than that on youtube?
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Nefaro on March 27, 2012, 06:59:32 AM
Walken's interactive video?

Does it closely resemble his "The Continental" skits on SNL?  :o
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Gusington on March 27, 2012, 09:28:28 AM
^God I hope so. Champagne?
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediaite.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2Fthe-continental.jpg&hash=79c35fb6ea0266cb8a6d85127ddb99a831b4db6f)
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: Ulfang on March 27, 2012, 02:42:11 PM
I'd forgotten about that .... nice tash lol
Title: Re: Wing Commander Saga: The Darkest Dawn released
Post by: OJsDad on March 27, 2012, 03:33:40 PM
I'm enjoying this version of WC, I just need a flight stick to make it better.  Trying to fly with keyboard isn't helping my kill count.   8)