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Title: Skyrim
Post by: Bison on March 26, 2012, 01:30:23 PM
I wanted to just chat about Skyrim.

As I wait for yet another micro-patch for Skyrim to download, I'm pondering the complete and total lack of spears in the game.  Seriously.  I can create a badass two handed war hammer, but I cannot strap an arrowhead onto a stick and make a spear.  Oh the humanity!  Or in this case Argonianity!
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Bison on March 26, 2012, 01:32:56 PM
I also realized that I've created two characters in Skyrim and they are almost identical.  Except one is a magical pussy and the other is a magical human. 

What I need to do is create a crazy heavy armored, two hand weapon wielding badass.  Perhaps an Orc.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Gusington on March 26, 2012, 01:42:15 PM
Did someone say Magical Pussy again?

I have been playing with one avatar for my entire game time and he is just like me: a Dark Elf.

Except I am weening him off the heavy weapons and armor and training him to be a proper, dual-wielding battlemage because just that word is so fantastic.

Every day walking to work I wish I was a battlemage.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Shelldrake on March 26, 2012, 01:54:21 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 26, 2012, 01:42:15 PM
Every day walking to work I wish I was a battlemage.

How about at work?!  ;D
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Bison on March 26, 2012, 01:56:38 PM
The problem I have with my original dude is that I took about a 2 1/2 month break and now I'm so freaking lost that I don't know where to begin.  So I just rolled up a new guy, but he's in overall concept the exact same.  Which is why I think I need to go a completely different route and make a not battlemage type of character. 
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Bison on March 26, 2012, 01:58:41 PM
Also I'd like to go on record as saying I don't really like the look of elves in this game.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Gusington on March 26, 2012, 02:09:16 PM
I am really becoming convinced that my Dark Elf avatar does resemble me in many intended ways and in some unintended ways. Physically we are built identically. His fighting style was different than mine would be if I had one (biggest weapons possible) and since I joined the Dark Brotherhood I just stopped using that style and switched.

Sure there were some growing pains but now I can defeat multiple dragons with ranged magic and weapons and I'm becoming decent at dual wielding, weather it be magic or axes, etc. It wasn't particularly difficult for me to break habits in Skyrim.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: LongBlade on March 26, 2012, 03:12:56 PM
Quote from: Bison on March 26, 2012, 01:30:23 PM
I wanted to just chat about Skyrim.

As I wait for yet another micro-patch for Skyrim to download, I'm pondering the complete and total lack of spears in the game.  Seriously.  I can create a badass two handed war hammer, but I cannot strap an arrowhead onto a stick and make a spear.  Oh the humanity!  Or in this case Argonianity!

Have you ever heard of this Austrian dude called Freud? He's got some interesting theories that you might want to give a go.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: son_of_montfort on March 26, 2012, 05:34:21 PM
Morrowind had spears. They were pretty cool looking, but fairly useless.

Also, LB speaks the truth.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 26, 2012, 05:42:32 PM
There is a mod that adds spears and pikes to the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qetClCcnS4
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Staggerwing on March 26, 2012, 05:52:30 PM
Throwing spears?
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: TheCommandTent on March 26, 2012, 07:10:43 PM
I am focusing on building the archery and light armor skills of my character.

I just wish my 'loot mule' would stop getting in the way, I keep shooting her in the back.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: LongBlade on March 26, 2012, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on March 26, 2012, 05:34:21 PM
Also, LB speaks the truth.

Then again, Freud himself did say, "Sometimes a spear is just a spear."
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Staggerwing on March 26, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on March 26, 2012, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on March 26, 2012, 05:34:21 PM
Also, LB speaks the truth.

Then again, Freud himself did say, "Sometimes a spear is just a spear."


I wonder how he felt about train tunnels...
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Ulfang on March 26, 2012, 07:25:55 PM
Quote from: Bison on March 26, 2012, 01:32:56 PM
I also realized that I've created two characters in Skyrim and they are almost identical.  Except one is a magical pussy and the other is a magical human. 

What I need to do is create a crazy heavy armored, two hand weapon wielding badass.  Perhaps an Orc.

This is probably the best Elder Scrolls game for magic. I always tend to prefer a melee character who can throw the odd fireball ;) I found that archery and sneaking has really improved since Oblivion. I have a female assassin type of thing going on on my Xbox version (I have it on PC, 360 and PS3) and she's great at stealth kills. My PC character is a typical Norse warrior but he also employs the bow (that also has soul trap) for long range sneaky kills that almost always provide a soul with one strike.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Slash on March 26, 2012, 10:46:58 PM
I believe there's also a mod that changes the way the elves look in the game if you don't like the current ones. Which I also don't. I like my elves Arwen-ish or not at all, thank you. I can't make any progress in this game because I spend all my time wandering around looking at things.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Bison on March 27, 2012, 02:15:19 AM
I'm just saying that I prefer my female elven babes to look like
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-BdX98ZeXKfw%2FTWa868uf2uI%2FAAAAAAAABL8%2F3HhXNZdyYG8%2Fs1600%2Felves%2Blord%2Bof%2Bthe%2Brings.jpg&hash=64c0a9d3f97143e13d2972fd61d5c846b1920ea2)

as opposed to
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.gawkerassets.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F9%2F2011%2F08%2F500x_darkelffemale.jpg&hash=dd2a13f437eb7dbb79a7f242eb752337182df35e)
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Bison on March 27, 2012, 02:16:55 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on March 26, 2012, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on March 26, 2012, 05:34:21 PM
Also, LB speaks the truth.

Then again, Freud himself did say, "Sometimes a spear is just a spear."

And sometimes it's just a stick with an arrow strapped to it, which is not something that existes in the land of Skyrim.

I'm going to be forced to Occupy Skyrim and protest.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Nefaro on March 27, 2012, 06:54:37 AM
Spears have always been lacking in most RPGs.

Even if they're present, you're often forced to use them 2-handed making them basically pikes.  It's a rare few you can actually use a spear with a shield, and that's what I'd push for if I were you.  ;)
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Ulfang on March 27, 2012, 07:48:07 AM
Quote from: Bison on March 27, 2012, 02:15:19 AM
I'm just saying that I prefer my female elven babes to look like
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-BdX98ZeXKfw%2FTWa868uf2uI%2FAAAAAAAABL8%2F3HhXNZdyYG8%2Fs1600%2Felves%2Blord%2Bof%2Bthe%2Brings.jpg&hash=64c0a9d3f97143e13d2972fd61d5c846b1920ea2)

as opposed to
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.gawkerassets.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F9%2F2011%2F08%2F500x_darkelffemale.jpg&hash=dd2a13f437eb7dbb79a7f242eb752337182df35e)

Can't really argue with that!
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Ulfang on March 27, 2012, 07:51:28 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on March 26, 2012, 10:46:58 PM
I can't make any progress in this game because I spend all my time wandering around looking at things.

Too true. I spend most of my time looking for the perfect scenery screenie. ni time to quest lol.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Gusington on March 27, 2012, 09:26:24 AM
Skyrim is the first game of its type in which I have used ranged attacks, either magical or bow and arrow. I enjoy attacking at range this game a lot more than others for some reason.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: W8taminute on March 27, 2012, 09:43:17 AM
^Interesting.  I was sort of thinking the same thing a while back.  Remember in Oblivion how difficult it was to get off a good shot at distance?  At least for me anyway.  In Skyrim, although one still has to manually aim, I find it a little easier to do.  Maybe has something to do with the reticle that is used when you hover the crosshair over a target.



Separate question for you all:

I've got Skyrim on my PS3, can someone justify getting it on Xbox as well?  This question has been tormenting me for weeks now and I've passed on several good sales due to my indecision. 

Not convinced that I would buy this game for PC btw, just sayin'.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Bison on March 27, 2012, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: W8taminute on March 27, 2012, 09:43:17 AM

Not convinced that I would buy this game for PC btw, just sayin'.

This is a huge mistake IMO. 
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Gusington on March 27, 2012, 10:11:29 AM
^Graphics for PC will blow away either console.

As far as ranged attacks I sometimes find the aiming a bit difficult. But when I get a kill I find it satisfying. Hard to put a finger on it.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Ulfang on March 27, 2012, 10:25:17 AM
Depends what sort of gamer you are I suppose. The PC always blows console games away for graphics and you have the added bonus of thousands of player mods available on the PC. I have it in PC, xbox and PS3. The pc is the superior version for graphics and control/management. I like it on the console for if I want to play it in bed (i said play it not play with it) or on the sofa. The console version are my casual and comfy versions. The pc is my hardcore version complete with the folders full off mods and screenshots. I've played the PC version ten times longer than the console versions put together.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: W8taminute on March 27, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
You guys raise some very good points.  No doubt about it, PC version is better for all the reasons stated.  When it comes to this type of game however I prefer the console version.  For me it's simply a matter of lying down on the couch and being nice and lazy whilst searching for quest items etc.  You should see me though when a battle erupts.  I jump out of my chair/sofa and start jumping like a wild man.  Can't do that with a laptop or desktop.

Strategy games on the other hand is a totally different matter.  PC all the way!
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Nefaro on March 27, 2012, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on March 27, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
You should see me though when a battle erupts.  I jump out of my chair/sofa and start jumping like a wild man.  Can't do that with a laptop or desktop.

I can jump out of my chair on the PC version, but the neighbors may call the cops on me if they mistake my naked agitation as playing on the bongos whilst toking illegal substances or something.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Gusington on March 27, 2012, 01:01:44 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Ulfang on March 27, 2012, 02:41:26 PM
Jumping in the air like a madman adds mothing to the game. Going out and finding someone who looks like an Imperial and bashing their brains in with a mace (well ok rolling pin) is the way to go!

erm .... not that i've done that.......
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: airboy on March 27, 2012, 04:07:00 PM
I enjoyed the game - but never finished it.  Once you master the basic play style it is pretty easy.  The game world is interesting and on a high end PC is is simply beautiful.

I got burned out about 2/3rds of the way through the main quest after having amassed a large number of levels.  I had a routine: sneak, poison the bow, snipe, kill then rinse/repeat.  I ended up getting bored.

Don't get me wrong - Skyrim is much better than Oblivion.  I liked Morrowind a lot better - but I found the main quest completely engrossing.

I just drifted back into playing Fallout: New Vegas for RPG good times.  Especially when I picked up the ultimate edition with all of the bonus content.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: LongBlade on March 27, 2012, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: airboy on March 27, 2012, 04:07:00 PM
  I had a routine: sneak, poison the bow, snipe, kill then rinse/repeat.  I ended up getting bored.

I didn't use poison much - but I did get to the point where it was fun to craft bows and enchant them. I put off the main quest for as long as possible, but after completing it never felt like I did before.

I think I found most of the stuff on the map, and while I didn't kick out every quest I think I got most of them. I definitely got my money's worth. Reminds me a lot of Fallout 3 is many respects, but that isn't a bad thing.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Bison on March 27, 2012, 05:19:12 PM
GAH!  I've encountered a bugged quest.  A Time of Need.  So go down to some cave kill all the bandits and have an epic moment of orcish two-handed ax weilding badassery and take out six redguard and their boss in like 10 secs.  Then nothing nada.  No quest update.  /sigh/  Hopefully I have a save prior to this amazing act of awesomeness so I can try one of the work arounds. 
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Ulfang on March 27, 2012, 07:25:03 PM
possibly this one?

A bug exists in the PC version where the player can approach and kill the Alik'r in the cave before speaking with Kematu. Performing a power attack will result in a finishing move on the Alik'r but will not trigger the others to attack. In this fashion the room can be cleared before engaging Kematu in either conversation or combat. Note: while the Alik'r are being killed Kematu may comment on someone having been murdered but there is no murder count increase for the player for these actions.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Bison on March 28, 2012, 12:34:31 AM
Exactly Ulfang.  I whupped Kematu and his gang.  This is supposed to trigger one of the two quest line updates, but it doesn't it.  So I'll need to attempt an alternative method of taking this punk out.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on April 08, 2012, 04:45:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/lindseystomp (http://www.youtube.com/user/lindseystomp)
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Staggerwing on April 08, 2012, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on April 08, 2012, 04:45:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/lindseystomp (http://www.youtube.com/user/lindseystomp)

"...until I took a fiddlestick in the knee..."

I'm a sucker for pretty women playing violins. She has some great other videos as well. The 'Dubstep w/ violin' one is interesting.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Kushan on April 08, 2012, 06:16:17 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAnQQcIncq0

Want a pretty women playing a violin, how about 2?
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Slash on April 12, 2012, 09:57:33 PM
Hey fellow Skyrim-lings. I killed my very first DRAGON today. Now Lydia and I are up to our butts in valmers in Fallingmist Cave and I'm completely hooked on this game now. Question. Is there any real need to ever eat or sleep in this game? My guy never gets hungry or tired.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: LongBlade on April 12, 2012, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on April 12, 2012, 09:57:33 PM
Hey fellow Skyrim-lings. I killed my very first DRAGON today. Now Lydia and I are up to our butts in valmers in Fallingmist Cave and I'm completely hooked on this game now. Question. Is there any real need to ever eat or sleep in this game? My guy never gets hungry or tired.

Food restores health.

You can also catch diseases which lower stats (I forget - haven't played in a while). Resting will also restore some stats that decline after too much adventuring, but I'd have to read up on it for specifics.

I suggest you google some wikis for Skyrim and check them for sleep, health, and food. There are reasons to take a time out.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Ulfang on April 13, 2012, 04:03:15 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on April 12, 2012, 09:57:33 PM
Hey fellow Skyrim-lings. I killed my very first DRAGON today. Now Lydia and I are up to our butts in valmers in Fallingmist Cave and I'm completely hooked on this game now. Question. Is there any real need to ever eat or sleep in this game? My guy never gets hungry or tired.


Mmmm Lydia

Eating is only for health/stamina boost

You don't have to sleep but if you do you get the message you feel fully rested which gives a boost to how fast your skills increase.


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Sleeping
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Gusington on April 13, 2012, 09:25:03 AM
^Yes what Ulfang said. You might be interested in contracting some of the diseases prevalent in Skyrim such as vampirism or lycanthropy as well.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: LongBlade on April 13, 2012, 09:39:05 AM
Quote from: Gusington on April 13, 2012, 09:25:03 AM
You might be interested in contracting some of the diseases prevalent in Skyrim such as vampirism or lycanthropy as well.

A quote only to be found here.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Gusington on April 13, 2012, 09:41:53 AM
HA well, yes. Hang that on a shingle outside the GH office door. I contracted full blown vampirism and it transformed the game and almost drove me insane. I hear that lycanthropy is much more user friendly.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: LongBlade on April 13, 2012, 09:51:54 AM
Quote from: Gusington on April 13, 2012, 09:41:53 AM
HA well, yes. Hang that on a shingle outside the GH office door. I contracted full blown vampirism and it transformed the game and almost drove me insane. I hear that lycanthropy is much more user friendly.

I got it, used it once, and never did again. By the time I had it, my bow and stealth skills were so high it was superfluous. At lower levels those things might be quite helpful.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Gusington on April 13, 2012, 09:54:28 AM
^How insulting. Fine. I'll take my kewl lycanthropy and go play with someone who cares.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Slash on April 13, 2012, 10:51:46 AM
Thanks for the input and suggestions. They'll help greatly. I'm looking into trying out some of the mods as well.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Toonces on April 13, 2012, 12:03:53 PM
Lydia went to the great mountain in the sky during my fight with Merelon or what ever his name was.

Now I'm going to hold out for Alexa.   Mmmmm....Alexa!
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Gusington on April 13, 2012, 12:45:00 PM
What mods are you going to try? I haven't modded my game at all.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Ulfang on April 13, 2012, 03:39:54 PM
My game is just about modded out. I've got about 20 lol. It's so easy through Steam as well. You just find the mod you like, subscribe and next time you boot it up it installs. Dovahkiin Hideout is one of my favourites. It adds a basement under Breezehome that gives access to all the crafting areas as well as loads of chests, display cases etc and also links to buildings in other cities that you have accessed. There are some good graphical enhancements, Weather, sky etc enhancements. All sorts .

As for creature diseases I did the lycanthropy and vampirism in Daggerfall and although it's fun initially it becomes a real pain to cure so I've avoided them in future games.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Steelgrave on April 13, 2012, 04:48:11 PM
The ambient sounds mods for indoor and outdoor really add to the game! Other mods I use give merchants more gold over time and stop your follower from blindly setting off every trap every time. Although I did take a wicked enjoyment out of watching Lydia trigger the spiked door trap over and over and over and.........
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Sir Slash on April 13, 2012, 09:52:52 PM
The UI mods for me. The ambient sounds looks good too. Just installed one that gives me my very own private chateau complete with forges and enchanting tables, room to store lots of stuff(800 books), and a deck overlooking a harbor with ships and a lighthouse on top. I may retire there.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Toonces on April 14, 2012, 02:20:15 AM
No mods here, yet.  I want to experience the game "as intended" first time around.

I might try that ambient sounds mod...sounds benign enough, but no new houses or any of that shit for me for now.
Title: Re: Skyrim
Post by: Ulfang on April 14, 2012, 08:24:41 AM
There's also a really good sunset mod that gives you a more colourful glow as the sun set ... Or was it rises? Or both? Who cares.... It looks good anyway.