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Tabletop Gaming, Models, and Minis => Wargaming => Topic started by: bayonetbrant on January 03, 2014, 03:35:38 PM

Title: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 03, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Here's some more things y'all might find useful:

http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/11/battle-lab-recon-and-wargaming.html
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/11/more-thoughts-on-tactical-intel-and.html

and a bunch of charts / orders / trackers we used to use in the pre-digital world  (click the images to enlarge)
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/07/platoon-operations-order.html
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/06/origins-prep.html
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/06/battalion-toc-charts-tactical-sitrep.html
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/06/battalion-toc-charts-logistics-sitrep.html
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/06/battalion-toc-charts-recon-sitrep.html
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/07/battalion-toc-charts-maintenance-sitrep.html
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/07/battalion-toc-charts-enemy-sitrep.html
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/07/battalion-toc-charts-adjacent-unit.html

Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: bickford on January 08, 2014, 03:22:17 PM
Brant you have been championing doctrinally correct gaming for years now.
I completely agree with everything you've done and in my opinion you are 100% correct for doing it.

HOWEVER
Gamer's today simply do not care about doctrine or reality or accuracy, they just want fun.
It has been proven time and again over the last 10-15 years.
Maybe, maybe, 1% want to do it right, all the rest including the vocal senior members here just want a quick easy game.
Even the self proclaimed high & mighty OCS demigods on CSW/BGG have no damn clue about doctrine.
Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 08, 2014, 03:26:48 PM
Oh, I don't doubt that gamers want to game, rather than doctrinalizing their way through a game.

I was simply hoping to provide some info for those 1% of players that might want to poke their way into some of the doctrine.

I'm not advocating that everyone shift what they do / how they do it.  I'm simply providing some information for those who care :)
Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: James Sterrett on January 08, 2014, 06:50:17 PM
All true - but even if you don't do it right, understanding the planning process will make you a better gamer.  :)
Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: Bison on January 08, 2014, 10:08:12 PM
It seems to me that some doctrinal aspects are incorporated into games by gamers even if they don't recognize or give much thought to it.  The OPORD and doing METT-TC analysis of the situation on the board comes to mind right off hand.
Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: LongBlade on January 09, 2014, 09:58:42 AM
Some of us wargamers have spent their lives in the civilian world and wouldn't know a doctrinally-correct wargame if it bit us on the butt.

My suggestion is to make a wargame that's doctrinally-correct and then teach players the how and why. Then you'll see the fanbase grow.
Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: Barthheart on January 09, 2014, 10:00:28 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on January 09, 2014, 09:58:42 AM
Some of us wargamers have spent their lives in the civilian world and wouldn't know a doctrinally-correct wargame if it bit us on the butt.

My suggestion is to make a wargame that's doctrinally-correct and then teach players the how and why. Then you'll see the fanbase grow.

This.
Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 09, 2014, 10:05:17 AM
I'm working on it...

http://grognews.blogspot.com/p/designing-out-loud.html
Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 19, 2017, 06:49:23 PM
bump....  just to annoy Mirth with the resurrection threads
Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: mirth on December 19, 2017, 07:01:58 PM
Pfft. This isn't even 3 years old.
Title: Re: Doctrinal Wargaming
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 19, 2017, 08:21:11 PM
Quote from: mirth on December 19, 2017, 07:01:58 PM
Pfft. This isn't even 3 years old.

You don't do math, do you?