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Title: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: besilarius on January 04, 2014, 06:59:03 AM
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?266934-The-Top-100-Generals-of-History

One man's take on generals throughout history.  No one will totally agree with him but most of the list is reasonable.  Mostly the rankings can be argued.
Any disagreements?
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: LongBlade on January 04, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
I can't say I've heard of half of them. So much history to learn yet.
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: MetalDog on January 04, 2014, 11:18:11 AM
It appears that my subscripon to MHQ served me well.  I've heard of most of them, although, with some exceptions, I probably couldn't tell you what they did. 
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 04, 2014, 11:31:49 AM
not many modern (20th century) generals and those are all German and Russian.   ???
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 04, 2014, 12:24:49 PM
General Tso's Chicken is not listed. This is the top general in my book.
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: LongBlade on January 04, 2014, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on January 04, 2014, 12:24:49 PM
General Tso's Chicken is not listed. This is the top general in my book.

<chuckle>
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: Staggerwing on January 04, 2014, 12:36:08 PM
General Urko isn't listed either. Eyebiter will be pissed  >:(
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: Atilla60 on January 04, 2014, 03:42:04 PM
Sun Tzu didn't make it to the list? Hmmm.
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 04, 2014, 03:52:14 PM
neither did Moshe Dyan, Eisenhower, Grant or Lee.
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 04, 2014, 04:22:32 PM
That reminds me of a discussion (more like an argument) that I had with a friend some time ago. I was saying what a butcher Grant was, lacking in any finesse or maneuver skill. And if Lee and Grant had served opposite sides instead, how would they have fared?

My friend was a big Civil War buff, especially of Confederate lore, so it irked him that I even brought it up. Of course by that point I had to keep pushing his buttons. I conceded Gettysburg to him, but said that I thought Grant would have lost the battle on Day 1, 2 at the latest.  ;D
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: Airborne Rifles on January 04, 2014, 08:42:14 PM
I am a huge fan of Grant. He's someone I think never hit the Peter principle. Surprised he's not on the list.
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: MetalDog on January 04, 2014, 11:23:23 PM
Grant and Lee are both on the list.  Grant had the larger resources of men.  The Confederates were on the defensive in the West at Vicksburg, an especially well fortified position.  Once Grant came East, there were many defensive emplacements around Richmond.  WWI Western Front warfare is a good analogy.  Grant did what he had to do with what he had. 
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 04, 2014, 11:39:31 PM
ah Lee at 37 and Grant at 85.

still needs more Jews.  :)
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: LongBlade on January 05, 2014, 12:51:32 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on January 04, 2014, 11:18:11 AM
It appears that my subscripon to MHQ served me well.  I've heard of most of them, although, with some exceptions, I probably couldn't tell you what they did.

I'm wondering if he just went through the last ten years of MHQ and listed the first 100 generals he could find in them.
Title: Re: List of top 100 greatest generals
Post by: bob48 on January 07, 2014, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on January 04, 2014, 11:23:23 PM
Grant and Lee are both on the list.  Grant had the larger resources of men.  The Confederates were on the defensive in the West at Vicksburg, an especially well fortified position.  Once Grant came East, there were many defensive emplacements around Richmond.  WWI Western Front warfare is a good analogy.  Grant did what he had to do with what he had.

Yeah, Petersburg was almost a taste of WW1.