It's been a little while since we did one of these, so here we go! (Of course, I doubt I'll end up getting them all, at least right away...)
Fantasy strategy:
Age of Wonders III
Worlds of Magic
Sovereignty: Crown of Kings
Warlock 2
Warhammer 40,000 Armageddon
Space 4x:
Predestination
StarDrive 2
Distant Worlds: Universe
MORE
Star Lords
Horizon
GalCiv3
RPG:
Kingdom Come
Space sim:
Limit Theory
Other:
Mount and Blade 2
I'm sure I'm still forgetting a fair few titles, but that's at least a good starting list for now.
(EDIT: Updated to add a couple titles.)
I'm with you on Age of Wonders III and Worlds of Magic.
I am also looking forward to the release of Wasteland 2 (http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/).
Quote from: Greybriar on January 08, 2014, 05:00:53 PM
I'm with you on Age of Wonders III and Worlds of Magic.
I am also looking forward to the release of Wasteland 2 (http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/).
+1 for Wasteland 2. I am looking forward to seeing a return on my Kickstarter investment.
The list so far:
Age Of Wonders III
Brother Against Brother
Galactic Civilizations 3
Worlds of Magic
Out of the Park Baseball 15
Gridiron Solitaire
Warlock 2: The Exiled
Tropico 5
East vs. West – A Hearts of Iron Game
Making History: The Great War
Dead State
UFO2Extraterrestrials: Battle for Mercury
(in addition I'm also closely monitoring all the Space 4x games) 8)
And a bonus list of games that somebody should really make for 2014. Or anytime soon. Tomorrow would be good: :P
Imperialism III
Starfleet Battles: Hex Turn Based
Age of Rifles II
A Good PC American Football Game
Forge of Freedom II
Birth of the Federation II
"A Good PC American Football Game"
Our beloved NFL has helped EA create a monopoly which has destroyed all graphical competition. We won't see any new football franchises until the NFL rethinks its licensing approach. Its tough for a major player in the video game industry to undertake such a risky proposition of creating a football game with generic teams, and mucho potential legal trouble if your users start modding the game to take NFL teams. EA has the market and we must live with that.
Wings! remastered for the PC.
I don't keep up with upcoming releases. I get all my info here at Grogheads. But I do know that Warlock 2 will be out this year and I am REALLY looking forward to that! :)
Quote from: Swatter on January 08, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
"A Good PC American Football Game"
Our beloved NFL has helped EA create a monopoly which has destroyed all graphical competition. We won't see any new football franchises until the NFL rethinks its licensing approach. Its tough for a major player in the video game industry to undertake such a risky proposition of creating a football game with generic teams, and mucho potential legal trouble if your users start modding the game to take NFL teams. EA has the market and we must live with that.
Not to hijack the thread, but what I have always found interesting is football games (and other sport games) do exist out there with real player names and such and I doubt each of them have a license with the NFL. Not sure how they do it....examples....ActionPC Football, Second and Ten Football, Strat-o-matic, football mogul, front office football, etc. Each of these also allow the person to mod the game to include logos and such too. So if they are able to do it, not sure why it is impossible to imagine a text-sim company coming up with a good career based sim and not be fearful of the NFL license issue? Don't get me wrong, I don't anticipate anybody coming up with one soon, just not sure it is all because of the NFL license issue.
This is a football game I am keeping my eye on as well....
http://footballgeneralmanager.wordpress.com/
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on January 08, 2014, 07:07:02 PM
Quote from: Swatter on January 08, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
"A Good PC American Football Game"
Our beloved NFL has helped EA create a monopoly which has destroyed all graphical competition. We won't see any new football franchises until the NFL rethinks its licensing approach. Its tough for a major player in the video game industry to undertake such a risky proposition of creating a football game with generic teams, and mucho potential legal trouble if your users start modding the game to take NFL teams. EA has the market and we must live with that.
Not to hijack the thread, but what I have always found interesting is football games (and other sport games) do exist out there with real player names and such and I doubt each of them have a license with the NFL. Not sure how they do it....examples....ActionPC Football, Second and Ten Football, Strat-o-matic, football mogul, front office football, etc. Each of these also allow the person to mod the game to include logos and such too. So if they are able to do it, not sure why it is impossible to imagine a text-sim company coming up with a good career based sim and not be fearful of the NFL license issue? Don't get me wrong, I don't anticipate anybody coming up with one soon, just not sure it is all because of the NFL license issue.
This is a football game I am keeping my eye on as well....
http://footballgeneralmanager.wordpress.com/
It's just lawyer legalese and loopholes. All those games you mentioned do not come with official logos & such. The argument for the player names may not hold up in court since the games all include name randomizers that also place the same first & last names together. Besides, I don't think there are IP rights to people's names being used, otherwise news services everywhere would be getting sued. I'm sure the NFL or the players association has probably attempted to place copyright or some other bullshit claims on the use of names. Hell, EA pretty much stated they own the rights to the term "Battlefield" which is goddamn ridiculous, so I wouldn't put it past any of them.
They don't have to worry about what end users mod into their games since the dev/publisher had nothing to do with it. That's why we have to mod the real logos & such in. The NFL and others in the same situation don't bother spending the time & money trying to prosecute individuals for using their IPs for themselves.
So this begs the question. Should we feel like criminals now for using their IP symbols and franchise names for personal uses? I mean.. by some people's definition this is outright theft since they weren't purchased, right?
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can use player names and stats, because I don't think you can claim history as IP.
The thing, especially if your talking about a game with high production values, is that people want the whole package. Demand for a game without logos and pictures would probably be weak, relatively speaking. That's why we probably won't see the whole package: awesome graphics, authentic NFL experience, and a realistic game resolution engine. That is, until the NFL sets the bar a little lower and ends EA's monopoly. EA is evil! I am almost sure Lucifer himself took over the company years ago.
I am not crazy about text games. I am very tempted to write my own football graphics engine, but coupling that with a career mode worth playing is the tricky part. Some of these text football franchises that have been around forever, I can't understand why they haven't added a graphical resolution component. Its not THAT hard.
I must be the only one who isn't looking forward to Age of Wonders 3 and GalCiv 3.
The List Distant Worlds Universe
Hegemony Rome
Brother vs Brother
Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls
Wasteland 2
Xenonauts
The Maybe ListTitanfall
The Division
Destiny
Dragon Age 3
Quote from: Swatter on January 08, 2014, 06:58:30 PM
"A Good PC American Football Game"
Our beloved NFL has helped EA create a monopoly which has destroyed all graphical competition. We won't see any new football franchises until the NFL rethinks its licensing approach. Its tough for a major player in the video game industry to undertake such a risky proposition of creating a football game with generic teams, and mucho potential legal trouble if your users start modding the game to take NFL teams. EA has the market and we must live with that.
EA's contract with the NFL is up this year. It is possible that the NFL will choose to no longer give EA exclusive rights.
This is not really a game but an add-on:
I am waiting for the PMDG 777 for Prepar3d
I don't "know" of any games coming out this year. I really don't. That doesn't mean I won't buy any...just that I'm "out the loop" regarding what's coming out.
I used to look forward to releases. Reading up on them and sucking in all the info I could find. Now I just see a release and buy it if it's something I want.
im fairly confident this year could be my year of catching up and getting dedicated to a few favourites - theres nothing really setting fire to the horizon, this time last year im sure we were all watching Rome II and its progress - this year its 'i might like the look of' more than 'FETCH ME MY CREDIT CARD'
but i do like the look of Massive Chalice, Banished, WG: Red Dragon, and Warlock II - which is a lot more fantasy than i expected!
id like to say Elite too but i dont know how much is nostalgia
Three of my Kickstarter investments are due to come online this year:
Wasteland 2
Dead State
Xenonauts
I took Wasteland 2 for a spin last month and can see that it's going to be a winner. They need to clean up the UI a bit but it should be a good one. Xenonauts will be good also. I just hope the troops can be modded a bit. They're a little rough to look at IMO.
Like JD I'm out of the loop, so I'm going to try to devote my gaming time to games I acquired recently, but I guess that's a thought for a different thread. Slightly more on-topic, I'm looking forward to IL2:Battle of Stalingrad - though I do already own it.
The Eastern Front CMx2.
I can't believe no one has mentioned
"Shipbreakers"...the MMO from the Homeworld team.
I hope it's still on schedule. Haven't heard much
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Fewer zombie-related games would be nice in my opinion. It's time for a new alive and kicking hype.
I don't really have a list, nor do I know what will be released/what is supposed to be released this year.
I'm hoping Matrix will have some exciting news as soon as they wake up from hibernation. 2013 was somewhat "meh" in terms of wargame releases for me, 2012 was better. Flashpoint Campaigns is good, but I didn't play that until the contest.
The upcoming John Tiller game/the new Panzer Battles series sounds interesting.
Not really sure about AoW III, it could be good but is it still made by the same team after all these years?
I'm hoping the new Thief won't be awful, but I don't have high hopes. I expect a dumbed down console game, with a poor PC "port" of sorts.
Quote from: Kushan on January 09, 2014, 01:39:20 AM
Titanfall
capped at 6 v 6 - the rage sunami is surely on its way
Quote from: undercovergeek on January 09, 2014, 09:14:38 AM
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Heck I hate and MMO as much as the next guy..never even joined one....ever. but I plan to on this one; I mean it's home world stuff
Quotecapped at 6 v 6 - the rage sunami is surely on its way
Possibly, but it depends on how it's marketed. If they market it as an experience similar to what you get with expanded split screen or home multiplayer, it could work. 6 vs 6 doesn't sound too bad if there's enough to do.
Quote from: mikeck on January 09, 2014, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on January 09, 2014, 09:14:38 AM
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Heck I hate and MMO as much as the next guy..never even joined one....ever. but I plan to on this one; I mean it's home world stuff
if you will, i will
Quote from: ComradeP on January 09, 2014, 10:23:49 AM
Quotecapped at 6 v 6 - the rage sunami is surely on its way
Possibly, but it depends on how it's marketed. If they market it as an experience similar to what you get with expanded split screen or home multiplayer, it could work. 6 vs 6 doesn't sound too bad if there's enough to do.
i tend to agree but all the promo vids so far, i think, have shown much more - again, i think
I just hope there are some good games released in 2014, 2013 was not a banner year!
I told Santa Claus for X-Mas I wanted CA to re-do their excellent Barbarian Invasion add-on for the Rome 2 engine. I think I confused him because he had no idea what I was talking about or why I was sitting in his lap. I'd settle for a damn good BI mod for Rome 2. This time with Naked Women Warriors(Pervert). ::)
I would love that too...BI rocked. FYI there is. Rome II mod set in the 4th century AD named Tetrarchy but it looks more focused on Roman civil war.
Quote from: ArizonaTank on January 09, 2014, 06:37:34 AM
The Eastern Front CMx2.
That and Il-2 Battle of Stalingrad.
Oh and the Mig21 for DCS.
It's great to see a lot of Russian stuff!
Yeah I saw that one too, 4th Century is just about right. I miss the Huns. They weren't THAT bad though they all dressed like Klingons. The 1960's Klingons I mean, not the Hollywood ones. They just wanted a Home of their own-- with my head on the door.
I would be really surprised if there was not some kind of new BI DLC.
Quote from: Sir Slash on January 09, 2014, 12:04:56 PM
Yeah I saw that one too, 4th Century is just about right. I miss the Huns. They weren't THAT bad though they all dressed like Klingons. The 1960's Klingons I mean, not the Hollywood ones. They just wanted a Home of their own-- with my head on the door.
I thought the Huns ran amok in the 440s and 450s? Which would be 5th century? Were they up to their tricks in the 4th century too?
I see some sources here having the Hun party getting started as early as the 1st century AD.
Quote from: bbmike on January 08, 2014, 06:00:28 PM
Warlock 2: The Exiled
D'oh! Completely forgot about that one. Thanks for reminding me...I think. :P
Quote from: bbmike on January 08, 2014, 06:00:28 PM
And a bonus list of games that somebody should really make for 2014. Or anytime soon. Tomorrow would be good: :P
Imperialism III
Birth of the Federation II
Oh, gods yes. I would be as happy as a clam in mud!
That being said, I've come to believe the latter will never happen, sadly. However, I'm a bit surprised there's been no attempt (that we know of) to make the former.
Quote from: Kushan on January 09, 2014, 01:39:20 AM
I must be the only one who isn't looking forward to Age of Wonders 3 and GalCiv 3.
My enthusiasm for GalCiv3 has admittedly been greatly dampened in the last few weeks. The confirmation of no tactical combat, combined with screenshots indicating the sequel looks almost exactly the same as GalCiv2, makes me wonder what the point would be in getting the sequel...or for that matter, making said sequel in the first place. You'd think they'd want to change things up at least a little bit.
At this point, I mostly included GC3 on my list out of morbid/casual curiosity.
Quote from: Kushan on January 09, 2014, 01:39:20 AM
Distant Worlds Universe
Ah, is that the working title for the next (modding-centric) expansion then? I'd not been paying much attention yet.
Hey the Huns run amok whenever the hell they want to. And they don't even know what amok means. They were never very good at telling time anyway. The hardest game I ever played was the BI Western Roman campaign. I never got close to even keeping the Empire together much less winning the campaign. And then just recently I saw a youtube video of a guy winning the campaign in just 10 turns!!! I REALLY hate that guy. >:( >:( >:(
That guy was me. Nah just kidding. But I did win the M2TW Crusades campaign in 17 turns.
It took me a lot longer than that to win as Jerusalem. I'm still playing an excellent Britiannia campaign as England in M2TW and up to my butt in angry Welsh and Irishmen. They don't make them like that anymore.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 09, 2014, 02:57:24 AM
I don't "know" of any games coming out this year. I really don't. That doesn't mean I won't buy any...just that I'm "out the loop" regarding what's coming out.
We're better off that way. No pre-release hype or post-release disappointment.
It's nice not anxiously waiting and checking for release updates all the time. When something new pops up these days, it's regularly a pleasant surprise to see someone mention it's release here or just plain seeing it pasted in the 'New Games' section of a retailer.
I couldn't do that for ages, in the past. But now that I've owned & played so many games over the years, I've matured as a game purchasing addict to the point where I don't get all that excited for upcoming releases very often. We can thank the massive increase in new games, indies, and big sales for this. In short - digital distribution. I would never say such things if we were buying computer games in brick and mortar stores as happened up until the mid '00s. They just didn't release much all that often and when they did the stores limited how much shelf space available. The pickings have blossomed immensely so the variety and value means we're swimming in it. :D
This might be worth another thread, but what do you guys think will be the biggest gaming flops/disappointments this year?
For me me its Thief. I don't have any faith in Eidos and Square Enix being able to pull it off.
Eidos did a great job with Thief: Deadly shadows but Thief 4 does not have the same vibe...
Quote from: Kushan on January 09, 2014, 03:17:45 PM
This might be worth another thread, but what do you guys think will be the biggest gaming flops/disappointments this year?
For me me its Thief. I don't have any faith in Eidos and Square Enix being able to pull it off.
For me personally, I'm most worried that the games I've either backed on Kickstarter or have purchased via Steam's early access program will end up being massive disappointments. To date, these games are (note that they're all in my OP):
M.O.R.E.
Horizon
World of Magic
Limit Theory
PredestinationNot that I'm expecting the moon with any of these titles, but I'll be very bummed it out if they're not at least "decent". Right now,
MORE is the one I'm mainly worried about, but I can't help but be at least a little apprehensive about the others as well.
Granted, the other four seem to be pretty solid at whatever stage in development they're currently at -- an impression that's helped by the devs being very responsive to backers and/or open with the development process. However, given that the notion of backing games via KS or Steam early access is still more or less in its infancy (or at most, the "toddler" stage), it's difficult not to be at least somewhat concerned. As I said in another thread last week, this year will (for me, at least) be a watershed year for supporting games this way; either I will become an solid supporter of the idea, or I'll be too badly burned to ever do so again.
Otherwise, the game on my list that I feel is most likely to crash & burn -- especially when compared to the expectations for it -- would be
Age of Wonders III.
Don't get me wrong, I'm really looking forward to this one. However, if the devs aren't careful, this could turn out to be the MOO3 of the fantasy strategy genre.
Xenonauts
Wasteland 2
Eschalon Book 3
QuoteWarhammer 40,000 Armageddon
I am looking forward to this one, but I'm worried that it will be just as generic as Panzer Corps. A completely generic Warhammer game isn't much fun in my opinion.
On the other hand, if it has killer clowns, I'm buying it.
Quote from: ComradeP on January 10, 2014, 01:40:22 AM
QuoteWarhammer 40,000 Armageddon
I am looking forward to this one, but I'm worried that it will be just as generic as Panzer Corps. A completely generic Warhammer game isn't much fun in my opinion.
On the other hand, if it has killer clowns, I'm buying it.
lol - agreed, the title gets me all moist - panzer corps with land cruisers for tigers doesnt - its a 'watcher'
Being able to use killer clowns was one of the main attractions of Warhammer 40.000: Rites of War, but sadly they were not in the Dawn of War series as far as I know.
The Huns were all over the place. No one can say for sure, but many suggest they were originally a tribe, the Hsung-Nu, who were a real problem for the Chinese on the western border. Think this was in Chinese chronicles from about the 2nd century BC.
They were pushed back by a major effort and fled west.
Not sure when they worked their way to the Roman border.
Later, they were regularly hired by the Byzantines, being great all around light cavalry, renowned as good horse archers. A significant portion of Belisarius' armies were mercenary Huns. They were often susceptible to bribes, so were always a worry.
Why do you guys think Panzer Corps is generic? The game has really sucked me in. It's got a great one more turn vibe, some great art style, it creates some great tension, decent AI, and even the sound and music are great, IMHO. I don't play a lot of WWII themed games so maybe that's why I am enjoying it so much.
Gus, how similar or dissimilar is it compared to Panzer General? That was my first thought. I loved PG on my 3DO back in the day but didn't want to just re-play that game.
Not to step on Gus's toes -- but for my 2 cents -- PanzerCorps is essentially identical to Panzer General and PG2. I bought PanzerCorps out of a "Man, I *loved* Panzer General!" feeling, and was quickly disappointed to find out that PanzerCorps is really just PG2 with updated graphics. I can't say I spent a lot of time with PC, but my sense of "this doesn't add anything new" was strong enough for me never to feel the need to go back to it --
Quote from: Gusington on January 10, 2014, 08:34:17 AM
Why do you guys think Panzer Corps is generic? The game has really sucked me in. It's got a great one more turn vibe, some great art style, it creates some great tension, decent AI, and even the sound and music are great, IMHO. I don't play a lot of WWII themed games so maybe that's why I am enjoying it so much.
Panzer Corps is a fine introductory wargame. It's designed to do exactly what it's doing for you - suck you in, get used to the units and their basic functionality, and let you see some of the theaters of the war. "Generic" is probably too vague of a term. More like "light."
I didn't mean "generic" in terms of gameplay, but in terms of the units you use/face and the scenarios. You're playing supposedly historical battles against generic enemy units, using generic units of your own. I didn't mind that in any whatever General game, but it does get old from time to time. I enjoy campaigns with more of a story to tell more, like the Hungarian Mod for PzC or the Pacific Corps mod by DMP.
For Warhammer, some sort of story, no matter how cheesy, is important for me to enjoy the game. The rivalry between the various races and factions is such a big part of the theme that it's difficult to imagine playing against mostly generic enemy units.
I'm looking forward to Heroes of Stalingrad by LnLP/Matrix coming out in the next few weeks.... 8)
Ok I understand what you' re saying Comrade, and I do agree with it. I put myself somewhere between beginner and intermediate when it comes to true groggy games, which is part of the whole reason I am here to begin with...perspective.
I also bought Panzer Corps because I loved the original Panzer General on the first PlayStation, and on that tip, it delivers. After a couple of weeks to maybe a month, I am ready to move on to Unity of Command.
Can anyone suggest other more intermediate wargames to move on to? Maybe I should start a new thread...I've been th looking through the Matrix catalogue and may get Battle Academy.
Space Sector listed more games that are coming out in 2014 (http://www.spacesector.com/blog/2014/01/a-list-of-spacesci-fifantasy-games-you-cant-miss-in-2014/). It's going to be an expensive year...
Quote from: Martok on January 09, 2014, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Kushan on January 09, 2014, 01:39:20 AM
Distant Worlds Universe
Ah, is that the working title for the next (modding-centric) expansion then? I'd not been paying much attention yet.
Not sure if that will be the final name or not, but thats the name thats showing up on the Matrix beta page.
Looks like we also have an approximate release time frame:
Quote from: Erik Rutins
Never give up, never surrender! Currently scheduled for late Q1 2014. [8D]
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3510212&mpage=2&key= (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3510212&mpage=2&key=)
Thanks for the info,
Kushan! Much appreciated.
Quote from: bbmike on January 12, 2014, 04:45:21 PM
Space Sector listed more games that are coming out in 2014 (http://www.spacesector.com/blog/2014/01/a-list-of-spacesci-fifantasy-games-you-cant-miss-in-2014/). It's going to be an expensive year...
Yeah, I saw that. I hadn't realized the new
StarDrive game was going to be coming out this year! It's been added to my list now, though.
I looking forward to which ever of the multitude of space 4x games due out is actually better and more fun than MOO2. Right now my money is on Predestination, but that's only based on videos and interviews, not actual game time, so who knows.
I'm also looking forward to AoW3 and maybe Sovereignty: Crown of Kings.