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Many thanks for that heads-up!
Cool, thanks Greybriar!
Wow ...thx for info.
You're welcome, Wally, Banzai, and Budd.
By the way, in case you are wondering what the hotkey is to jump to the next unit, it's the Tab key.
Thanks for the heads up Greybriar.
Added it to my list only to find I already had it, making 2 copies. What the hel, clicked again, now I have 3... ???
Grabbed it, thanks. May never play, but its mine now :P
Always better to have games than have not games.
You want to hear something REALLY sad?
I thought, "This game sounds familiar" when I downloaded it. Looking through the manual, it became even more familiar.
That's because I wrote the %*(@# thing. LOL. How soon we forget.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on February 07, 2014, 09:58:39 PM
You want to hear something REALLY sad?
I thought, "This game sounds familiar" when I downloaded it. Looking through the manual, it became even more familiar.
That's because I wrote the %*(@# thing. LOL. How soon we forget.
Now thats funny ;D
I grabbed the game.
I'm curious. There have been, what, 3-4 variations on this game so far? All about the same scale. Can anyone give a rundown on the progression and which one is best? I got the impression that the first game kind of sucked and then it was improved in a newer game. Am I correct in assuming that this is the earliest?
Wrath of War.
Nations of Destruction.
Time of Explosions.
Did I miss any? ;D
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on February 07, 2014, 09:58:39 PM
You want to hear something REALLY sad?
I thought, "This game sounds familiar" when I downloaded it. Looking through the manual, it became even more familiar.
That's because I wrote the %*(@# thing. LOL. How soon we forget.
BC, seriously man, put down the bong. I know it's legal now, but...well, you've had enough... ;D
Quote from: Ubercat on February 07, 2014, 10:35:55 PM
I grabbed the game.
I'm curious. There have been, what, 3-4 variations on this game so far? All about the same scale. Can anyone give a rundown on the progression and which one is best? I got the impression that the first game kind of sucked and then it was improved in a newer game. Am I correct in assuming that this is the earliest?
Wrath of War.
Nations of Destruction.
Time of Explosions.
Did I miss any? ;D
1) WW2: Road to Victory
2) WW2: Time of Wrath
3) Storm Over the Pacific
4) Time of Fury
5) Strategic War in Europe
All use the same basic engine being tweaked and modified with each iteration.
Graphics and UI have generally been improved with each release, however the modders generally do a much better job in the graphics department.
None were really ever finished before the developers moved onto their next release.
If you owned 1) you got 2) for free.
4) is the latest "full scale" version of the base game.
5) was supposed to have been released as a free update to 4) but never was.
The latest and much needed patch for 4) has been in public beta and I believe a subsequent non-public beta since February of last year with no sign of it being finished any time soon.
In essence 2) was a free patch for 1) (or possibly 1) could be seen as an Early Access for 2) before people actually did Early Access), 3) was a new game on the same engine, 4) was a paid for patch for 2) which cost more than the base game, 5) was a free variant of 4) which you had to pay for !
As to which is best I'd go for Strategic Command, Commander Europe at War or Gary Grigsby's World at War a World Divided :)
Quote from: Wolfe1759 on February 08, 2014, 07:02:32 AM
None were really ever finished before the developers moved onto their next release.
As to which is best I'd go for Strategic Command, Commander Europe at War or Gary Grigsby's World at War a World Divided :)
+1
This sums it up perfectly.
(I own all of them, but got more and more disappointed, as new features would be introduced, while old bugs and issues with the overall game play balance were still untouched. Now I play neither of them.)
Quote from: Wolfe1759 on February 08, 2014, 07:02:32 AM
As to which is best I'd go for ...Commander Europe at War ...
In my opinion, with the GS 3 upgrade mod, the best Strategic European game experience currenly. It's possibly the best one so far to capture the boardgame tabletop feel.
Mod link: http://www.slitherine.com/ceaw_gs3
I prefer Time of Wrath to any of the games they released after it and had some fun playing it. Cant get on with Time of Fury.
Thanks for the heads up, Greybriar.
You're welcome, Staggerwing, Steve, and Mirth.
Quote from: Toonces on February 07, 2014, 11:38:06 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on February 07, 2014, 09:58:39 PM
You want to hear something REALLY sad?
I thought, "This game sounds familiar" when I downloaded it. Looking through the manual, it became even more familiar.
That's because I wrote the %*(@# thing. LOL. How soon we forget.
BC, seriously man, put down the bong. I know it's legal now, but...well, you've had enough... ;D
I wish. I guess I was just trying to forget I used to slave away on those books...lol.
Quote from: Wolfe1759 on February 08, 2014, 07:02:32 AM
Quote from: Ubercat on February 07, 2014, 10:35:55 PM
I grabbed the game.
I'm curious. There have been, what, 3-4 variations on this game so far? All about the same scale. Can anyone give a rundown on the progression and which one is best? I got the impression that the first game kind of sucked and then it was improved in a newer game. Am I correct in assuming that this is the earliest?
Wrath of War.
Nations of Destruction.
Time of Explosions.
Did I miss any? ;D
1) WW2: Road to Victory
2) WW2: Time of Wrath
3) Storm Over the Pacific
4) Time of Fury
5) Strategic War in Europe
All use the same basic engine being tweaked and modified with each iteration.
Graphics and UI have generally been improved with each release, however the modders generally do a much better job in the graphics department.
None were really ever finished before the developers moved onto their next release.
If you owned 1) you got 2) for free.
4) is the latest "full scale" version of the base game.
5) was supposed to have been released as a free update to 4) but never was.
The latest and much needed patch for 4) has been in public beta and I believe a subsequent non-public beta since February of last year with no sign of it being finished any time soon.
In essence 2) was a free patch for 1) (or possibly 1) could be seen as an Early Access for 2) before people actually did Early Access), 3) was a new game on the same engine, 4) was a paid for patch for 2) which cost more than the base game, 5) was a free variant of 4) which you had to pay for !
As to which is best I'd go for Strategic Command, Commander Europe at War or Gary Grigsby's World at War a World Divided :)
Thank you very much for the explanation about the Wastelands Interactive games. I own the majority of them but have only played
World War 2: Time of Wrath. Knowing the chronological order in which they appeared will make it easier to decide which (if any) of the other games to play next.
As to which is the best of certain other WWII PC games to play, I'm a little partial to the original
Strategic Command (http://www.gog.com/game/strategic_command_european_theater/pp/a17554a0d2b15a664c0e73900184544f19e70227), although it is even more dated since it first appeared in 2002 than its predecessor (
Clash of Steel (http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/clash-of-steel-world-war-ii-europe-1939-45), released in 1993) was when
Strategic Command superceded it.
Commander Europe at War reminded me a lot of
Panzer General. Which is not a bad thing.
Gary Grigsby's World At War is, I think, probably the simplest Gary Grigsby WWII game there is to play. It doesn't have all the micro-management that his other games require.
I remember Strategic Command: War in Europe. I liked playing that one.
Gary Grigsby's World at War was always compared to Axis & Allies, which was unfair as it had more going on than A&A. I did the manual for that one too, and only mention it because it is the one I'm most proud of. I wish I still had my copy of it. :(
Grabbed it! Thanks for the heads up Greybriar!!
You're welcome, Shelldrake.
the download is still valid at of 4pm today.