These games do not ever seem to get old. The OOBs are so massive and the scenario selection so varied and extensive, that each game feels practically infinitely replayable. I would say if I have one problem when it comes to these game, it's ADD. I just can't stay focused on one scenario. First, I may be in the mood for a German airborne operation. Then, after the landing, I change my mind and decide I want to command the USMC in an amphibious assault in the pacific. However, once my Marines crash ashore, I may get the urge for a massive tank battle on the eastern front....wait, no, I want North Africa...no! I mean I want to experiment with the blitzkrieg against the poles...and then, I get the feeling for something more modern, so I switch to MBT and run a helo assault in Vietnam. Or should I fight African rebels in Rhodesia? It's just never ending,
So finally, after all these years, I took the plunge and picked up the cd version if each game from shrapnel. I figure, I've had so many great years of playing the free version that spending money on the overpriced aging titles was still worth it. So now I get to play in high res, and damn it's still a good time.
I agree. The games are still fun to play so many years later and Shrapnel Games keeps on releasing great updates for both like they just did earlier this week.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 28, 2014, 10:01:57 PM
These games do not ever seem to get old. The OOBs are so massive and the scenario selection so varied and extensive, that each game feels practically infinitely replayable. I would say if I have one problem when it comes to these game, it's ADD. I just can't stay focused on one scenario. First, I may be in the mood for a German airborne operation. Then, after the landing, I change my mind and decide I want to command the USMC in an amphibious assault in the pacific. However, once my Marines crash ashore, I may get the urge for a massive tank battle on the eastern front....wait, no, I want North Africa...no! I mean I want to experiment with the blitzkrieg against the poles...and then, I get the feeling for something more modern, so I switch to MBT and run a helo assault in Vietnam. Or should I fight African rebels in Rhodesia? It's just never ending,
So finally, after all these years, I took the plunge and picked up the cd version if each game from shrapnel. I figure, I've had so many great years of playing the free version that spending money on the overpriced aging titles was still worth it. So now I get to play in high res, and damn it's still a good time.
Still good. Still alive. They recently got an update.
can you please post a screenshot in 1920 x 1080 of both games
i would like to see the resolution of map and units, so is the graphic just blown up , or is there really crisp higher resolution ? (not just either more map displayed, or blowup of 800 x 600, and does it support 'widescreen' now or with blackboxes left and right
... i am on the edge to follow in your footseps ;)
Quote from: MikeGER on March 29, 2014, 02:37:43 AM
can you please post a screenshot in 1920 x 1080 of both games
i would like to see the resolution of map and units, so is the graphic just blown up , or is there really crisp higher resolution ? (not just either more map displayed, or blowup of 800 x 600, and does it support 'widescreen' now or with blackboxes left and right
... i am on the edge to follow in your footseps ;)
No the graphics are not just blown up they run at a much crisper resolution. Personally that alone makes the cost worthwhile and I can't play the game any other way.
Have to agree the amount of content in the two titles is just staggering.
I loved Steel Panthers WWII and it was a free download when I picked it up. Some great user made campaigns too. My favorite was a Japanese campaign in China in 1937 with the Chinese having a grab bag of equipment from all over. The only thing I didn't like was the long AI turn times in large battles.
Are all of those scenarios included in the SPWaW free download? What is MBT?
So The Shrapnel version is better than the Matrix version? Shrapnel has higher resolution and Matrix is still stuck in 1997? The differences between the two have always been confusing and part of the reason I've never bought either.
Quote from: Ubercat on March 29, 2014, 12:35:56 PM
So The Shrapnel version is better than the Matrix version? Shrapnel has higher resolution and Matrix is still stuck in 1997? The differences between the two have always been confusing and part of the reason I've never bought either.
IIRC the two versions are actually based on different base games. One is based on the original
Steel Panthers and the other derived from the
Steel Panthers III: Brigade Command game, which was originally coded for larger units (platoons?).
I thought one was Steel Panthers II engine and the other was III?
Still high priced, but lower than the Matrix one and the Resolution is definitely tempting... lol.. I have not caved in yet, but if JH start posting High Res shots, who knows what will happen!..
Quote from: bbmike on March 29, 2014, 11:49:34 AM
Are all of those scenarios included in the SPWaW free download? What is MBT?
MBT is SPwin Main Battle Tank. It picks up where WW2 left off. Its OOB and scenario base covers conflict from 1946 through 2020.
Quote from: MikeGER on March 29, 2014, 02:37:43 AM
can you please post a screenshot in 1920 x 1080 of both games
i would like to see the resolution of map and units, so is the graphic just blown up , or is there really crisp higher resolution ? (not just either more map displayed, or blowup of 800 x 600, and does it support 'widescreen' now or with blackboxes left and right
... i am on the edge to follow in your footseps ;)
+1...everyone has peaked my interest now:)
Here's MBT at 1920x1080 showing British armor in a 1989 scenario:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs13.postimg.org%2Fc0176pvmu%2Fimage.jpg&hash=e06ed4510ddaac0fbd7d62965012b839013f0a31)
And WW2 showing French versus German in a 1940 scenario:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Fpe3xys9g2%2Fimage.jpg&hash=7bed3a06f6540a329ac6c4fbda5747bb97149fca)
What I would pay money for is WinSPMBT with the graphics of Wargame Airland Battle (that is how I envisioned playing it when I bought it) or World in Conflict.
Or Norm Kroger's Operational Art of War with the same graphics.
If I zoom out, OATW unit graphics, if I zoom in the graphic engines of one of the 2 RTS games mentioned.
My kid's college fund is REALLY beginning to hate you guys.
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on March 29, 2014, 02:21:39 PM
What I would pay money for is WinSPMBT with the graphics of Wargame Airland Battle (that is how I envisioned playing it when I bought it) or World in Conflict..
Oh my god, yes!
So have they finally fixed the AI so it doesnt boggle all units in one road hex when it advances.
I would love to get back into the game but its really a gamebreaker for me when you can halt an entire offensive with 1-2 pak covering a main road
Quote from: WallysWorld on March 29, 2014, 02:18:04 PM
Here's MBT at 1920x1080 showing British armor in a 1989 scenario:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs13.postimg.org%2Fc0176pvmu%2Fimage.jpg&hash=e06ed4510ddaac0fbd7d62965012b839013f0a31)
And WW2 showing French versus German in a 1940 scenario:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Fpe3xys9g2%2Fimage.jpg&hash=7bed3a06f6540a329ac6c4fbda5747bb97149fca)
sorry, i cant see the pictures :'( (not at the PC and not with Android tablet) ? Please check the links
Pix are good Mike on my rig Mike. Try right clicking then into a new tab and see if they load there. Then reloading the tab with the thread. Sometimes that forces the page to display them.
..was able to see them when i copied the links getting visible from inside the 'quote function' of that post into the URL-line of my browser
the problem was the schweinehund ! of a picture service wants to place its adds under the image ...so link was not a 'dirct link' at least for my browser
Just updated mine. I appreciate what Shrapnel Games have done for the community, but have a hard time swallowing the price tag for the enhanced addition. For those of you that have it, is it worth the precious gaming dollars (or pounds in my case? ;D)? Also I don't see that Shrapnel have a UK distributor? Any views?
Gary Grigsby has stated he is intending to make a new Steel panthers...though god knows when that will be considering they have to do WITW then WIE. Still he has also stated he has the most fun making tactical scale games. I want to see a monster tactical game come out at some point and Mr Grigsby is prob the best one to do it.
I have the cd version and definitely think it's worth it, but then I use it to make my own scenarios and maps too. If anyone's interested, I've been building a series of scenarios about a Russia-China war in the far east in 2020 called "A Land War in Asia." The first four are included in the latest update to winSPMBT. I'm pretty proud of them. Good scenario design makes up for many shortcomings in the AI imho.
Couple items....
1) When people say the CD version, are you able to buy and download that version or is it only available through physical media and delivery?
2) I have been trying the free version, when I alt-tab out of the game and come back in, graphics totally screw up....do other people see that?
The 'CD' versions of SP are both physical and D/L. I have one on disk and the other as D/L.
Quote from: TacticalWargames on March 30, 2014, 02:13:26 PM
I want to see a monster tactical game come out at some point and Mr Grigsby is prob the best one to do it.
+1
with the 'actual' (or even 10 yeas old, like mine) hardware that will be a blast of game :)
i wouldn't be surprised if they will do an I-pad version too (but are a little shy for Android, as today)
In the absence of anyone making a modern version of a similar game I'm considering buying this again having brought numerous versions of the basic game over the years. Playing the demo at 800 x600 on a 1900 X1050 monitor I can just about live with graphics. However its the only game I can ever remember hurting my eyes due to the size of the fonts. I would expect to go blind within a week playing this. I notice that the CD version has a, 'use large font option', does this increase all of the text font size in the game ie briefings, weapon data, maps etc? If so it would be worth a purchase for this feature alone.
a very good point !
my '50+ years retina' would like larger fonts too ;) ... (i even run windows at 125% for convenience)
Quote from: MikeGER on March 30, 2014, 08:36:16 AM
Quote from: WallysWorld on March 29, 2014, 02:18:04 PM
Here's MBT at 1920x1080 showing British armor in a 1989 scenario:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs13.postimg.org%2Fc0176pvmu%2Fimage.jpg&hash=e06ed4510ddaac0fbd7d62965012b839013f0a31)
And WW2 showing French versus German in a 1940 scenario:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Fpe3xys9g2%2Fimage.jpg&hash=7bed3a06f6540a329ac6c4fbda5747bb97149fca)
sorry, i cant see the pictures :'( (not at the PC and not with Android tablet) ? Please check the links
No pics for me too.
Here are the direct links to the pictures:
SPMBT: http://s13.postimg.org/c0176pvmu/image.jpg
And WW2 showing French versus German in a 1940 scenario: http://s11.postimg.org/pe3xys9g2/image.jpg
Thanks. looks nice.
I held off on my temptation to buy this earlier this year, but have been reconsidering lately...just the $40 price tag holds me back and I would want this version because of the higher resolution. Wish shrapnel would have good sales versus their occasional $5 off.
What to do...
A quick review of how the two titles evolved. I used to love Spwaw, but the long wait in turns and display issues turned me a while back, less time now. Bought the mega campaigns and had a lot of fun.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F8%2F8b%2FSteel_Panthers_Evolution_400x1200.png&hash=d1eadcb10497e8ac65e7f3e6ef5354787e82aab0)
I've been building and posting some scenarios for MBT that I'm pretty proud of about a Russian-Chinese conflict in the near future. Linky: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=50070 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=50070)