New Computer - Feedback Appreciated

[jamus34]

Couple of notes / thoughts - also please no one take this personal, it's my opinions (and we know what those are worth) and what you use the PC for may vary greatly.:

Sandman - You can OC non "k" Intel chips - at least you use to be able to - It's just that you had to mess with voltages which means you are overclocking the entire system. So you would need to make sure in the least RAM and motherboard can take the strain.

Typically with gaming the biggest bottleneck is almost always the vidcard.

That said VR and video capture (specifically when gaming) are two things I have never done. A high end multi-core CPU probably will help there quite a bit, I just don't know about it.

To me the biggest advantage to liquid cooling is a relative reduction in noise - typically you need less fans. I do not liquid cool although on my next build I might pick up a closed loop liquid cooler. Would love one on the GPU front but they are typically prohibitively expensive. Also I look for cases that can run bigger fans as they can move the same CFM as smaller fans at a lower RPM.

JH - In all honesty if the chip is outside the warranty period anyway there's no reason to try to overclock. Just do it slow and have good monitoring software and if it looks like it's getting too hot then shutdown and step the OC down a bit. Typically the biggest issue nowadays is making your rig unstable. There's usually enough protections built into modern hardware to keep you from melting down.

Any, just my thoughts on it...YMMV

[sandman2575]

Your i7 5820K is a very powerful CPU on its own, perfectly capable of running 99.9% of games out there without overstraining itself, with some very rare exceptions like FSX that PanzersEast mentions that are notoriously CPU heavy. I can't offhand think of a single other game that's so computational heavy -- not even the reputed CMx2, which some folks insist can be laggy because it's so CPU heavy and constantly calculating LOS and the like -- which I don't buy for a second -- it's laggy not because of any CPU bottleneck but because it's badly optimized.

EDIT @Jamus (Posted before I read) -- absolutely correct -- didn't mean to imply that you *can't* overclock intel chips that don't have the K designation -- you certainly can, and possibly the only real advantage of the K is the warranty issue I mentioned.

[jamus34]

Your i7 5820K is a very powerful CPU on its own, perfectly capable of running 99.9% of games out there without overstraining itself, with some very rare exceptions like FSX that PanzersEast mentions that are notoriously CPU heavy. I can't offhand think of a single other game that's so computational heavy -- not even the reputed CMx2, which some folks insist can be laggy because it's so CPU heavy and constantly calculating LOS and the like -- which I don't buy for a second -- it's laggy not because of any CPU bottleneck but because it's badly optimized.

EDIT @Jamus (Posted before I read) -- absolutely correct -- didn't mean to imply that you *can't* overclock intel chips that don't have the K designation -- you certainly can, and possibly the only real advantage of the K is the warranty issue I mentioned.

Yeah, a badly optimized game will run like shat regardless of what you throw at it. Look at Arkham Knight.

[Nefaro]

How do you over clock the process and does doing so really make a noticeable difference? Is there any reason to not over clock?

Raising voltages, primarily.

I've never felt the need to OC my CPUs.  I think it's more of a hobby for people than something truly needed.  If the CPU is decent in the first place, then you don't really need the extra processing boost. 

Besides, I'm usually more concerned about processor temperatures, and try to keep my cooling systems simple & relatively inexpensive.  Much rather have a stable system than something that may freeze & crash when pushing it.  I suppose pushing the limits is fun for some, but I'd rather it just work all the time, with no fuss and CPU temps well within the green.

[PanzersEast]

Change of items:

Canceled the 970 (month out from the 1070 being released) I hope my 660 is still running.

Canceled the ASUS Z170-A ATX DDR4 Motherboard and went with the Gigabyte LGA1151 Intel Z170 2-Way SLI ATX DDR4 GA-Z170X-Gaming 7.  Primary reason is the memory issue with the ASUS Z170-A. 

I also added primary boot a Samsung 850 EVO 250GB and added a secondary drive of Seagate 2TB Desktop Gaming SSHD(Solid State Hybrid Drive).  May add a second one, however not in a Raid config.

So in total:

Intel Boxed Core I7-6700K 4.00 GHz 8M Processor Cache
Corsair Hydro Series H80i GT 
Gigabyte LGA1151 Intel Z170 2-Way SLI ATX DDR4 Motherboards GA-Z170X-Gaming 7
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz

Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
Seagate 2TB Desktop Gaming SSHD(Solid State Hybrid Drive) 
Corsair RM Series, RM850, 850 Watt




Cheers,
PE

[sandman2575]

Yeah, just saw news that the Gtx 1070 and 1080 are due this month. And word is they are a *significant* upgrade over the (already plenty powerful!) 900 Maxwell line.

Funny, I still find my 780Ti a fantastic performer. But then, I'm still perfectly happy playing on a single 1080p monitor.

EDIT - some more info - and the MSRP is surprisingly reasonable
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10304/nvidia-announces-the-geforce-gtx-1080-1070

[Nefaro]

Yeah, just saw news that the Gtx 1070 and 1080 are due this month. And word is they are a *significant* upgrade over the (already plenty powerful!) 900 Maxwell line.

Spanking new video card lines have ridiculously inflated pricing.  I only recommend waiting for them to be released in order to get further discounted pricing on the previous generation.  The previous gen prices will slowly start dropping after the new ones are out, and you'll eventually be able to pick up the higher end ones notably cheaper.


Edit:  Unless you absolutely want to spend a few hundred extra dollars for bragging rights of having the latest & greatest big bad, that has extra power your probably don't even need.   ;D

[PanzersEast]

Got parts in and new PC build.  Installing software and then the OC.  Thanks for all the feedback and now I wait on the release of the 1080!


Cheers,
PE

[OJsDad]

PE, you got me looking at putting together a new PC.  I'm an AMD guy, but when I got to looking at motherboards, you cannot get one with a PCIe 3 slot for their fastest CPU's.  Does anyone know, if that's correct or am I missing something.