Steel Beasts vs Steel Armor Blaze of War - Any way to get SB or alternati cheap?

[Apocalypse 31]

P.S. Did SB pro get challenger and good chopper mechanics in yet?

Chally 2 is in.

Chopper Mechanics are still poor. SB will never have good chopper mechanics, among other things. eSim has made it clear.

[Destraex]

My problem is that my Steel Beasts PRO PE (and dongle) is so damned old that I would need to pay full price again to update. I barely played it because none of my friends had it and I did not want to join a clan and dedicate serious time.
Then their is the other problem of it just being too expensive for my friends who would rather flight sim.
Now if steel armor was multiplayer... that would probably scratch the itch.

So these two armoured tank sims are pretty much the choices at the moment? There is nothing else?

P.S. Did SB pro get challenger and good chopper mechanics in yet?

If they are serious Flight Simmers, that's a heck of a lot more expensive than Steel Beasts!

Exactly. They won't try anything outside their comfort zone at SBs price.

[Tuna]

My problem is that my Steel Beasts PRO PE (and dongle) is so damned old that I would need to pay full price again to update. I barely played it because none of my friends had it and I did not want to join a clan and dedicate serious time.
Then their is the other problem of it just being too expensive for my friends who would rather flight sim.
Now if steel armor was multiplayer... that would probably scratch the itch.

So these two armoured tank sims are pretty much the choices at the moment? There is nothing else?

P.S. Did SB pro get challenger and good chopper mechanics in yet?

If they are serious Flight Simmers, that's a heck of a lot more expensive than Steel Beasts!

Exactly. They won't try anything outside their comfort zone at SBs price.

Just tell them it's the same price as Orbx FTX Global (or whatever it's called - haven't flown in along time)

[Toonces]

Is ARMA 3 not an option?  Not as hardcore as SB, but maybe good enough?

[Destraex]

ARMA has always done vehicles very poorly. The physics are especially bad when it comes to vehicles.

P.S. I see people in challenger2 tanks in SBproPE... but the interior does not seem to be modelled. Anyone know if a proper challenger2 model is planned? The thing that really impressed me about the original SBproPE was the leopard2 interior. I also cannot understand whey the Abrams driver interior looks so bad, it does not seem to have been updated from day 1.

[Pete Dero]

Did you consider the 'renting' options ?

SB Pro PE v4.0, Time-Limited License

    No shipping time
    No CodeMeter stick needed; license is bound to PC
    Limited to single license per PC

Add One Month   US $9.50
Add Four Months US $24.50
Add One Year      US $39.50

[Jarhead0331]

ARMA has always done vehicles very poorly. The physics are especially bad when it comes to vehicles.

This is not accurate. While not as high fidelity as a dedicated study sim, ARMA 3 has made great strides in improving vehicle handling and physics. Several patches and DLC have focused on enhancing the vehicle experience, most specifically with rotary aircraft. Furthermore, on the development roadmap, there are further major updates planned for fixed wing aircraft and tanks. Keep your eye on this in the coming year.

[Apocalypse 31]

Furthermore, on the development roadmap, there are further major updates planned for fixed wing aircraft and tanks. Keep your eye on this in the coming year.

I'm looking forward to the next few DLC for ArmA. There's still lots of room for improvement for vehicles and AI - but at least the dev team is:

a) extremely transparent in their roadmap - and communicates it regularly - easily the best developer out there.
b) able to actually accomplish their goals, and on time.
c) constantly improving the game. honestly, I've seen more improvements in ArmA over the last year and a half than I've seen since OFP 1. Whoever is running the ArmA show is doing a fantastic job. Despite the fact that they're working with an engine that was developed in the 1990's, they seem to be worked towards greatness. Can't wait to see what this game looks like in 1, 5, 10 years.

[Destraex]

ARMA has always done vehicles very poorly. The physics are especially bad when it comes to vehicles.

This is not accurate. While not as high fidelity as a dedicated study sim, ARMA 3 has made great strides in improving vehicle handling and physics. Several patches and DLC have focused on enhancing the vehicle experience, most specifically with rotary aircraft. Furthermore, on the development roadmap, there are further major updates planned for fixed wing aircraft and tanks. Keep your eye on this in the coming year.

Is this for the older historical ones?