IL 2 Surm. Cliffs of Dover Blitz

Father Ted · October 06, 2018, 04:36:47 PM

Quote from: Sir Slash on October 05, 2018, 10:54:22 AM
I wish I was better at flight sims, I never got around to trying one with a joystick though.

Joystick would make a difference, as would TIR and pedals.

Having said that, given that the likes of DCS, BoX and CloD are designed to mimic the flight characteristics of real aircraft, I think there is no reason any of us* should expect not to suck. Consider that the people who did this for real had to pass aptitude tests and were intensively schooled in the theory and practice of powered flight (with any not fit for purpose being weeded out) before getting anywhere near fighting, and then think how we approach these games: I reckon in 99 cases out of 100 it's the cart before the horse - trying to shoot stuff down before learning how to fly.

Of course, because of infinite virtual lives, you can do it this way, but I think a lot of people get put off by their lack of success before they get that far. Those who do push through to being able to enjoy the games are either mad keen to be Biggles and/or have some prior appreciation of how aeroplanes work.

However, I also think that to "git gud" at these things (especially in MP) one needs an innate ability for spatial awareness. To a degree this can be learned but there will always be those who are better than others. That might sound depressing but, even though I suck at MP, I prefer things to be genuinely skill-based rather than the RPG way of progression.

*excepting any real-world pilots

Destraex · July 14, 2024, 04:43:30 AM

Well. Just tried this again and boy does it rock. Still looks and plays great.
I remember way back when nobody could run this game smoothly wondering what it would be like on future computers.
You might be wondering why I tried this game again after all these years. Well apparently a B17 is coming to the game and I think this is probably a better platform than anything but DCS or Box il2 Great Battles for ithe B17 to be in.

Not really enthused about the Microprose titles that are coming.

Jarhead0331 · July 14, 2024, 07:14:43 AM

The VR version is also presently being beta tested. A lot to look forward to here.

Redwolf · July 14, 2024, 11:24:03 AM

This is relevant to my current interests.

Silent Disapproval Robot · July 14, 2024, 01:09:46 PM

Did the ever fix the AI? That's what killed the title for me back in the day.

CaptainKoloth · July 14, 2024, 02:31:57 PM

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 14, 2024, 07:14:43 AMThe VR version is also presently being beta tested. A lot to look forward to here.

To be fair they've been saying that for like four years now...

Destraex · July 14, 2024, 05:18:53 PM

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 14, 2024, 01:09:46 PMDid the ever fix the AI? That's what killed the title for me back in the day.

I can tell you the AI is super accurate. They really punish you.
Also I really have trouble aiming in this sim, the aircraft never seems to want to stay pointing at the enemy aircraft. It always wants to dip or pull over the enemy.
I'd have to put some effort in to really learn this sims keys again and see if it's just me or whether aircraft of the time really did have this problem.

Skoop · July 17, 2024, 02:03:16 PM

I recently booted up clod blitz and felt the same way. It's better now than release by far, and with it being the only detailed sim of a b17 besides warthunder or microprose reboots, it's really going to be a hidden gem.