Chinese Hackers are beginning to heat up the cyberwars

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LongBlade

Quote from: Longdan on February 28, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
I hope to be able to quote you in a non ironic way.

It won't be pretty, but the track record of totalitarian regimes versus democratic republics isn't good.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Longdan

Quote from: LongBlade on February 28, 2013, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Longdan on February 28, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
I hope to be able to quote you in a non ironic way.

It won't be pretty, but the track record of totalitarian regimes versus democratic republics isn't good.
The track record of the world against China hasn't been good.
People consistently denigrate China's abilities.  This has been a mistake in the recent past.
digni enim sunt interdicunt

LongBlade

Quote from: Longdan on February 28, 2013, 10:46:42 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on February 28, 2013, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Longdan on February 28, 2013, 12:20:40 AM
I hope to be able to quote you in a non ironic way.

It won't be pretty, but the track record of totalitarian regimes versus democratic republics isn't good.
The track record of the world against China hasn't been good.
People consistently denigrate China's abilities.  This has been a mistake in the recent past.

There are many mistakes in the recent past....
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Boggit

Empires are notoriously difficult to manage as they expand, and the New Chinese Empire is no different.

Look at the problems of resentment and protest China is beginning to have with its colonial expansion into Africa, even with small nearby countries like Burma as Chinese self interest and disregard for the local society and the environment start to provide a focus of opposition. Leaving aside sovereignty issues like Tibet, Russian and Vietnamese border areas, Spratley Islands, Senkaku Islands etc, the economic imperialism of China is making few friends amongst the locals. If China pushes too hard what will be the reaction?

http://www.dvb.no/news/protests-against-controversial-chinese-copper-mine-resume/26408
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/6088
http://www.thepromota.co.uk/zambia-seizes-chinese-mine-over-safety/
http://www.americasquarterly.org/do-chinese-mining-companies-exploit-more
http://allafrica.com/stories/201208010109.html
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Longdan

Same reaction as happened to everybody else.  Soon they will join us in being hated by all the people in the third world.
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Boggit

Quote from: Longdan on March 01, 2013, 02:53:43 PM
Same reaction as happened to everybody else.  Soon they will join us in being hated by all the people in the third world.
Exactly. History repeating itself. I wonder what the Chinese Communist Party's response is to allegations of Imperialism? Ironic or what?
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Staggerwing

I can't help but picture the Chinese Gov't/Business/PLA troika as looking like a bunch of Mob Bosses who attended a Walmart Corporate Retreat after which which the participants got both an Armani Makeover and matching Genghis Khan tattoos.
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... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

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