Movie Inaccuracies

Started by republic, June 27, 2013, 08:55:36 AM

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mirth

Quote from: bayonetbrant on June 27, 2013, 10:07:40 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on June 27, 2013, 10:02:31 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on June 27, 2013, 09:55:35 AM
Does anyone know what the Firefox actually was from that movie?

totally fictonal.  IIRC it was called a Mig-31 before we knew that they already had a Mig-31.

I know it was a fictional plane.  I'm asking what the actual aircraft was that they used in the scenes with the "Firefox," like in the hangar when he steals the plane, or when they're refueling on the submarine.

Just mockups.

From Wikipedia:

QuoteFor filming, four large-scale replicas were created, along with one full-size model that had dimensions of 66 feet long, 44 feet wide, and 20 feet high. The full-size model was built from a radio station broadcast-antenna skeleton and was capable of taxiing at 30–40 mph.
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Mi-24 Hinds from Red Dawn and Rambo 2-3




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Who is Puma and why does he own fake Hinds?

mirth

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Quote from: GDS_Starfury on June 27, 2013, 11:13:41 AM
^^^  those are Puma's

Yep. Not bad fakes really. The one from Red Dawn (top pic) makes for a convincing A-model Mi-24.
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carnator

I'm working on a game, set in 1919 in Alaska, and I came on here to ask you guys a couple months ago what airplane I should use.
Decided to go with the  Curtiss N-9H (seaplane variant).  It was a trainer used in WW1, so many survived the war and they became the most numerous civilian aircraft after the war.
So...yeah...people should come on here and ask you guys what is historically accurate / appropriate :)

republic

I never thought of that.  If they'd just ask, lots of organizations would help out for next to nothing.

We should have a Grogheads Production Studio, free steaks and/or desserts to all those who help with movie realism.

Staggerwing

It used to be almost an art form to bash together a mechanically operable stand-in for a rare or nonexistent piece of military hardware. Look at the Tiger 1 stand-ins used in Kelly's Heroes, based on (oh, the irony!) the hull of a T-34. The Zekes used in Tora! Tora! Tora! (and many subsequent movies, as well as Baa Baa Black sheep/ Black Sheep Squadron) were based on NA T-6 Harvard trainers. CGI has made these kinds of labors of love irrelevant and yet it does not satisfy.

By way of comparison, the original shark animatronic used in Jaws, balky as it was to use during filming, was more scary than any CGI shark I have ever seen on screen. It had a heaviness of presence that has not been duplicated.
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^Excellent points Stagger and those reasons are precisely why CGI military hardware looks much more fake than the real live models that are dressed up to look like something else.  At least to me anyway.
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Al

Quote from: Barthheart on June 27, 2013, 09:00:42 AM
This is a King Tiger....



According to the Battle of the Bulge movie....  :P

Spanish Army M-47's - not a bad substitution IMO.
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Quote from: mirth on June 27, 2013, 10:47:16 AM
Mi-24 Hinds from Red Dawn and Rambo 2-3




Red Dawn actually went to a lot of effort to put apparently accurate equipment in the movie.  The Puma above is actually a pretty good attempt at a Mi-24 Hind A variant: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Mil_Mi-24A_Hind.jpg