big government: USA vs ITALY

Keunert · September 29, 2013, 02:03:17 PM

Keunert · September 29, 2013, 02:08:14 PM

Auto blu is cars payed by the government.
Italy is flicked. i really don't know how they will get out of this.
And Berlusconi, the conservative big business guy did absolutely nothing to cure this, it has gotten even worse.

Centurion40 · September 30, 2013, 11:55:17 AM

So they're about to go Greek?

Is Frau Merkel about to become the Queen Victoria of Europe?

LongBlade · September 30, 2013, 12:24:06 PM

Quote from: Centurion40 on September 30, 2013, 11:55:17 AM
So they're about to go Greek?

Is Frau Merkel about to become the Queen Victoria of Europe?

Yes and yes.

Roughly the progression of fallen dominoes was/is/will be Greece, Spain, Italy, France, US.

Windigo · October 01, 2013, 09:09:43 AM

Quote from: LongBlade on September 30, 2013, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: Centurion40 on September 30, 2013, 11:55:17 AM
So they're about to go Greek?

Is Frau Merkel about to become the Queen Victoria of Europe?

Yes and yes.

Roughly the progression of fallen dominoes was/is/will be Greece, Spain, Italy, France, US.

I actually put the USA in front of France... only because they drink more per capita and can stay drunk/tolerate more shit.

LongBlade · October 01, 2013, 09:25:09 AM

Heh.

I think it was more based on the run-out-of-money ticker than endurance. You could be right.

jejo68 · October 03, 2013, 02:05:38 AM

what you only need 17 ministers in the US?
Here in good old Denmark we need 23 with 179 members of parliament. ofcourse there are as many as 5.5m people here so we really need all those politicians especially given that at least 65% of our Laws comes directly from EUSSR.

LongBlade · October 03, 2013, 10:06:10 AM

Quote from: jejo68 on October 03, 2013, 02:05:38 AM
what you only need 17 ministers in the US?
Here in good old Denmark we need 23 with 179 members of parliament. ofcourse there are as many as 5.5m people here so we really need all those politicians especially given that at least 65% of our Laws comes directly from EUSSR.

I would argue we don't even need 17. Obama created several "Czar" positions as a way to avoid having the appointed people investigated, questioned, and approved (or not) by the Senate.

Windigo · October 03, 2013, 11:57:03 AM

Quote from: LongBlade on October 03, 2013, 10:06:10 AM
Quote from: jejo68 on October 03, 2013, 02:05:38 AM
what you only need 17 ministers in the US?
Here in good old Denmark we need 23 with 179 members of parliament. ofcourse there are as many as 5.5m people here so we really need all those politicians especially given that at least 65% of our Laws comes directly from EUSSR.

I would argue we don't even need 17. Obama created several "Czar" positions as a way to avoid having the appointed people investigated, questioned, and approved (or not) by the Senate.

I agree that that is less than full disclosure.... but on the otherhand some like the 'Asian Carp' czar should perhaps get a bye?