Berg vs Heritage

Started by bayonetbrant, September 10, 2015, 10:18:53 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Print
Go Down Pages1
User actions

bayonetbrant

September 10, 2015, 10:18:53 AM
Splitting off to it's own thread to avoid overly-hijacking the 'news' thread
The key to surviving this site is to not say something which ends up as someone's tag line - Steelgrave

"their citizens (all of them counted as such) glorified their mythology of 'rights'...and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can endure." Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

bayonetbrant

#1
September 10, 2015, 10:19:46 AM
New out of Heritage Games, after a public FB meltdown from the original designer

QuoteOFFICIAL COMPANY ANNOUNCEMENT:
Mr. Berg unfortunately did not complete Conquistador or do any work after his initial rules submission. Even after he was advanced money. We made repeated attempts for almost 2 years to work with him creatively. I doubt that any game company would have had the patience or understanding that my staff has went through in all of this. It almost destroyed our fledgling company.
I have continued to work on the game (while this was going on) to being about 98% complete. And, still intend on releasing it at some point. Since, playtesting is giving me very favorable results. And, that was the only way it was going to get done. I believe we have a good game reminiscent of the old game. But, none of it is Mr. Berg's anymore. Not a single sentence, card, bibliography, designer notes or map are his.
Also, due to this we are cancelling all of Mr. Berg's titles under contract. And, they will be removed from our sites ASAP. We wish him the best of luck and really did wish that it could have worked out.
Sincerely, Greg Allen
https://www.facebook.com/heritagegamestudios/posts/678088965660331



The best quote I've seen on it is from CSW:
QuoteDon't know Greg Allen, never met Greg Allen, never heard of Greg Allen before.

I believe Greg Allen.
The key to surviving this site is to not say something which ends up as someone's tag line - Steelgrave

"their citizens (all of them counted as such) glorified their mythology of 'rights'...and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can endure." Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

bayonetbrant

#2
September 10, 2015, 10:57:53 AM
here's Berg's comment on Heritage's page on CSW

QuoteMost of the above is fallacious and sophomoric . . .Allen has mighty hopes for himself, all based on little evidence of creativity, insight or background. He is solely interested in money and fame . . .and he has not lived up to many of the specific provisions of our contract. Something he conveniently ignores . . . but I do not.

Given his track record - which is zero - I am happy he is returning the contracts for the other games . . .but do hope he eventually publishes CONQUISTADOR, AS HE HAS, APPARENTLY - I SAY APPARENTLY, FOR HE HAS NEVER SHOWN ME anything (oops, hit the cap key . . .) he has done to change, improve or whatever . . . Nothing. (Despite the contractual obligation he has to do so . . .he has never shown my ANYTHING he has done.) . . .apparently done a lot of developmental work thereupon.

But it's his money . . .I already did my part . . .and I rest on MY record in the hobby. And the contract for the game.

The Latin word applicable here is 'subolesco'. (Think I spelled that right.)

More bull from The Pope . . . RHB
The key to surviving this site is to not say something which ends up as someone's tag line - Steelgrave

"their citizens (all of them counted as such) glorified their mythology of 'rights'...and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can endure." Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

bayonetbrant

#3
September 10, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
The FaceBook post from Berg that precipitated all of this






The key to surviving this site is to not say something which ends up as someone's tag line - Steelgrave

"their citizens (all of them counted as such) glorified their mythology of 'rights'...and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can endure." Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

GJK

#4
September 10, 2015, 04:11:13 PM
I think RHB is ready for the nut-house.  He's been trolling facebook a *lot* lately; calling everybody and anybody a "racist bigot full of hate" just on a whim.  Look at some of the stuff he's put on Dan Veerseen's wall.   I've heard him reference "I am GOD" or "King" or something to that effect in a few places online.  I seriously think the dude has gone full-on 5150 myself.
Clip your freaking corners!
----------------------
Blood Bowl on VASSAL - Ask me about it! http://garykrockover.com/BB/
----------------------
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."

-Dean Vernon Wormer

Rekim

#5
September 10, 2015, 05:26:41 PM
Wow. What soap opera.

I missed the original FB thread, which was deleted. The current one is the biggest discussion I have come across.

GJK

#6
September 10, 2015, 05:47:24 PM
As I linked to earlier, RHB has a history of taking retainers/fronted monies from clients with no yield or output in return so I have to side with Heritage on this one.  You can almost read his sense of entitlement in his reply on the CSW page "MY record".  And bringing this all up on facebook (where he seems to live these days) is just very sophomoric and downright unprofessional.  A publisher would have to be crazy to touch any of his "new" designs with a 10ft pole.
Clip your freaking corners!
----------------------
Blood Bowl on VASSAL - Ask me about it! http://garykrockover.com/BB/
----------------------
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."

-Dean Vernon Wormer

panzerde

#7
September 10, 2015, 07:55:09 PM
Someone has apparently hit the dementia threshhold, and it isn't anyone at Heritage.

It's too bad; I like and play many games Berg has had a hand in. My experience tells me though that anyone that engages in drama like that is doing it to mask deeper problems.
"This damned Bonaparte is going to get us all killed" - Jean Lannes, 1809

Castellan -  La Fraternite des Boutons Carres

LongBlade

#8
September 10, 2015, 08:18:56 PM
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

BanzaiCat

#9
September 10, 2015, 08:22:53 PM
That FB post of his is still intact. Nothing was added to it beyond what the screenie above shows.

I guess humility went out the window for this guy many years ago.

Rekim

#10
September 11, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
I was under the impression that it was this discussion, which was deleted and consequently got him banned from the wargaming group?

bayonetbrant

#11
September 11, 2015, 10:07:01 AM
^^^
I think that was a spammer that snuck into the group
The key to surviving this site is to not say something which ends up as someone's tag line - Steelgrave

"their citizens (all of them counted as such) glorified their mythology of 'rights'...and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can endure." Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

Rekim

#12
September 11, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
That was the post that got RHB banned from the group. The monster thread discussing it is still there.   

bayonetbrant

#13
September 11, 2015, 10:36:38 AM
OK - some days there's so much traffic there it's hard to keep up with :)
The key to surviving this site is to not say something which ends up as someone's tag line - Steelgrave

"their citizens (all of them counted as such) glorified their mythology of 'rights'...and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can endure." Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers

Rekim

#14
September 11, 2015, 10:44:10 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on September 11, 2015, 10:36:38 AM
OK - some days there's so much traffic there it's hard to keep up with :)

That sounds like a good problem - for us  ;)
Print
Go Up Pages1
User actions