Battle of the Paracel Islands

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besilarius

February 16, 2016, 07:41:38 AM
Evaluation of the firefight between the Republic of Vietnam and the Chinese, using it as a blueprint for today.

http://thediplomat.com/2014/01/lessons-from-the-battle-of-the-paracel-islands/
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Nefaro

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February 16, 2016, 10:04:37 PM
Read up on that a few years ago, when I started creating a more modern (mid-2000s) scenario of the same clash. 

Was pretty obvious from reading about the Paracel scuffle, back then, that China was going to militarily push their claims even more in the near future.  Now it's doin.

Boggit

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February 17, 2016, 12:37:18 AM
Didn't China invade Vietnam in the late 70's/early 80's? IIRC, the Vietnamese gave them a bloody nose?
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February 17, 2016, 12:58:10 AM
Quote from: Boggit on February 17, 2016, 12:37:18 AM
Didn't China invade Vietnam in the late 70's/early 80's? IIRC, the Vietnamese gave them a bloody nose?

Yes, very briefly. 

IIRC, the Paracels stuff happened afterward.

Boggit

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February 18, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
Did the Chinese just invade them?
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Nefaro

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February 19, 2016, 05:08:30 PM
Quote from: Boggit on February 18, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
Did the Chinese just invade them?

Pretty much.  Although it sounded very half-assed on China's part, and doomed from the start.
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