Cyclone Helicopter Deal - Worst Procurement in DND History?

Started by Shelldrake, February 11, 2013, 05:09:44 PM

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GDS_Starfury

you just should have bought whatever version of Blackhawk you needed.
the same way we should have just bought the Tanker-X that boeing offered up.
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MIGMaster

Problem is (they say) the Black/Sea Hawk isn't big enough to fill the role - they want it to do everything!!! - The Cyclone carries 22 troops and has a range of 450 KM while the Hawk has around 365 and carries 11 troops. I suspect the Blackhawk, NH-90 (personally I think the 90 is half-baked) or EH-101 woulda been a logical choice, but therein lies the problem - logic should play no role in Gov't procurement  ;)

Longdan

They bought the B412 for the same reason.  They wanted it to do everything and mostly it does nothing very well.
They can fly.  I know this because I see them around sometimes.  They can fly at night because they used to go around
scaring farmers and cows nearby.  I do not know if they can do anything else.  Oh yeah, they break down.
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Centurion40

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on February 18, 2013, 11:32:32 PM
you just should have bought whatever version of Blackhawk you needed.
the same way we should have just bought the Tanker-X that boeing offered up.

No shit.
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Centurion40

Quote from: MIGMaster on February 19, 2013, 10:17:49 AM
Problem is (they say) the Black/Sea Hawk isn't big enough to fill the role - they want it to do everything!!! - The Cyclone carries 22 troops and has a range of 450 KM while the Hawk has around 365 and carries 11 troops. I suspect the Blackhawk, NH-90 (personally I think the 90 is half-baked) or EH-101 woulda been a logical choice, but therein lies the problem - logic should play no role in Gov't procurement  ;)

I heard that the 101 was too big to fit inside the helo sheds on the frigates.
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Longdan

Quote from: Centurion40 on February 19, 2013, 03:44:25 PM
Quote from: MIGMaster on February 19, 2013, 10:17:49 AM
Problem is (they say) the Black/Sea Hawk isn't big enough to fill the role - they want it to do everything!!! - The Cyclone carries 22 troops and has a range of 450 KM while the Hawk has around 365 and carries 11 troops. I suspect the Blackhawk, NH-90 (personally I think the 90 is half-baked) or EH-101 woulda been a logical choice, but therein lies the problem - logic should play no role in Gov't procurement  ;)

I heard that the 101 was too big to fit inside the helo sheds on the frigates.

That should have guaranteed immediate purchase.  What went wrong?  The 101 spoke French what else did it need except a glaring defect?
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