Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport

Started by steve58, July 07, 2014, 03:33:01 PM

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steve58

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/10950708/Planes-almost-collide-in-dramatic-runway-near-miss-at-Barcelona-airport.html

Kudos to the Russian pilot for averting what could have been a disaster.  Looks like the Argentinian pilot was paying more attention to the World Cup than to his plane/passengers  :(

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BanzaiCat

Holy crap, that was a Tenerife airport disaster sequel waiting to happen.

GDS_Starfury

that looks more like tower error then pilot error.  planes can only go where directed on the ground right?
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Staggerwing

When that russian pilot slammed the throttles forward he must have had images of catastrophic engine failure...

... until he remembered- "ah, not Kusnetsov but Pratt & Whitney... :)".




;D
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steve58

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2014, 06:06:23 PM
that looks more like tower error then pilot error.  planes can only go where directed on the ground right?

...true, assuming neither the pilot/co-pilot or tower made a mistake  :)
Government is not the solution to our problem—government is the problem.   Ronald Reagan
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.   Thomas Jefferson
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.   George Orwell  The truth is quiet...It's the lies that are loud.   Jesus Revolution
If you ever find yourself in need of a safe space then you're probably going to have to stop calling yourself a social justice warrior. You cannot be a warrior and a pansy at the same time   Mike Adams (RIP Mike)

Staggerwing

I imagine it's still expected that the pilot or copilot looks out the effing windows in the direction of any potential approaching traffic when crossing a runway in operation, you know, 'just in case'?
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Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

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I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
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W8taminute

Regardless of what the root cause for this near miss was I agree, kudos to the pilot who aborted the landing and circled around for another try.


I guess the guy in the watchtower picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue. 
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GDS_Starfury

Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


Staggerwing

Vituð ér enn - eða hvat?  -Voluspa

Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

"I'm not just anyone, I'm not just anyone-
I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
-Sonic Reducer, -Dead Boys

GDS_Starfury

wow !  youve never seen that?
he plays a stressed out air traffic controller.
Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


Staggerwing

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2014, 07:30:29 PM
wow !  youve never seen that?
he plays a stressed out air traffic controller.

If Dabney coleman is also in it then I've seen it, I just don't remember much else. Beer was most likely to blame.
Vituð ér enn - eða hvat?  -Voluspa

Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

"I'm not just anyone, I'm not just anyone-
I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
-Sonic Reducer, -Dead Boys

Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2014, 06:06:23 PM
that looks more like tower error then pilot error.  planes can only go where directed on the ground right?

I cannot recall ever having my plane go out onto the runway directly. It has always been go out to the end approach then wait for clearance. Then the pilot takes it around the corner. Then a short stop. Then he guns it for takeoff. The guy is behaving like a taxi driver.
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Yskonyn

While this was certainly an error its not that pilots are just marrionets of ATC.
The end responsibility is always with the captain of a aircraft.

Assuming here that the aircraft going around did not already report this of doing so prior to the other one lining up on the runway (we have no audio of Comms), the guys in the lining up aircraft should indeed have looked out the effing window before moving onto the runway.
Then they should have queried ATC.

ATC seems to have made a grave error on their turn.

As for the aircraft going around; that's a normal procedure every pilot is well trained for and not considered a non-normal situation in terms of gravity of situation.
I suspect the angle of the camera might make the aircraft appear much closer to the other one than it actually was .

Still it doesn't change the fact this was an undesireable situation any way you look at it. Good decisive action of at least one crew made the day.
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Yskonyn

BTW I always hate it when report talk about 'the pilot'. Modern airline Operations are conducted in a multi-pilot environment as a 'crew'.
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