Steel Beasts Pro Discussion Thread

[RyanE]

Losing what little hope I had for a June July release.

http://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/10539-sb-pro-pe-40-hardware-recommendations/

A few pages down its stated that at best it will be first week in August, but its looking very probable it will be December.  Now the real question seems to be "What year?"

Even scarier is the dire discussion on performance on what I consider mid- to high-end machines.

[Ssnake]

Well, at the moment the question of a release hinges on getting a few critical bugs fixed that we found only recently. That makes the whole release date question difficult to answer.

As far as the performance is concerned, I'm not happy about it either. On the other hand, you only reported half of what I wrote. The other half of the news is that on less potent machines - like a 2.9 GHz i5 mobile processor with integrated graphics HD4600 - it is quite possible to get the same frame rates (although at lower quality settings). This indicates that by and large the performance is CPU limited, a trend that has been observed with version 3.0 already, just less prominent.

In any case, we'll continue working on it. If someone would rather want to wait another six month before considering a purchase, I would understand that. At the same time, given the overall slower pace of Steel Beasts missions, I think that 30...35 frames per second still feel "OK-ish". And it IS quite possible to boost the frame rates up into the 50s in scenarios that restrict the visibility. Our benchmark test was designed to create a challenge. It's not one that only picks favorable conditions to paint the performance in a better light than what would be experienced later. So, if you DO play with scenarios involving rainfall and snow and a visual render range of 3,000m (which is entirely realistic for European autumn weather) you can expect to get a good frame rate. So, it's not all doom and gloom.

[RyanE]

You'll nnote I put the entire thread in the link.  It might also be easier if info wasn't scattered across multiple threads and buried sporadically in 70 page threads.

[Asid]

D.O.W. Saturday Mission 16/07/16 @ GMT19:00


Operation Battleaxe by Connaugh



This scenario is a simulation and does not have any political message.



Mission Summary :
The Commonwealth is to defeat the Afrika Korps on the frontier and secure Sollum, Fort Capuzzo, and Sidi Aziez.


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Excerpts of the battalion commander's (HAVOC 6) orders for...BLUEFOR (D.O.W.)

1) SITUATION: The Commonwealth mounts an offensive to clear the frontier region.

a) Enemy: The Afrika Korps is equipped with Leopard 2A5's and CV90-40's.
   

b) Own: Tank units are equipped with M1A2 (SEP) and Mechanized Infantry with M2A2..
             

c) Attachments and detachments:  Three batteries of artillery (18 tubes) will be on call.


2) MISSION: The Commonwealth is to defeat the Afrika Korps on the frontier and secure Sollum, Fort Capuzzo, and Sidi Aziez.



3) EXECUTION:

BTN Attack

Intent: Will be revised once bluefor commander has decided on course of action.

The Commonwealth will launch a three-prong attack to clear the frontier region. Coast Force is responsible for capturing Halfaya Pass, Escarpment Force is to capture the remainder of the frontier at Fort Capuzzo, Musaid and Sollum. The 7th Armored Brigade Group is to capture Sidi Omar, Bir Ghirba, and Sidi Azeiz and destroy the Afrika Korps.


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Information:

Infantry are equipped with anti-tank weapons and missiles.

150 minute time limit.

Points scored for capturing enemy strongpoints.



Date: Saturday 16/07/16
Time: 19:00 GMT
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[Asid]

D.O.W. Saturday Mission 02/07/16
GAZALA REVISITED by Connaugh

SITUATION:
The Commonwealth has occupied a defensive line running from Gazala on the coast down to Bir Hacheim at its southern end. The 1st South African, 50th Highland, and Free French occupy the defensive positions of the line. In reserve behind the line, are the armored units - 1st Armored with the  22nd, 32nd, and 201st Guards Brigades and the 7th Armored with the 4th and 7th Brigades.

MISSION:
The Afrika Korps is to breach the Gazala line and capture the defensive positions and destroy 75 per cent of the Commonwealth force.

EXECUTION
The Etruscan Infantry Brigades- Sabratho, Trento, Brescia, and Pavia will assault the two defensive positions held by the 1st South African and 50th Highland.  Due to the extensive minefields in front of the Gazala line, the main armored thrust will involve sweeping around the most southern defensive position, Bir Hacheim, and attack the Commonwealth positions from the rear. The two Etruscan Armored units - Ariete and Trieste, will capture Bir Hacheim at the end of the Gazala defensive line. The Afrika Korps of 15th Panzer and 21st Panzer along with 90th Light will sweep around Bir Hacheim and move north to assault the key defensive position of Knightsbridge, held by the 201st Guards and then destroy the two Commonwealth Armored units - 1st and 7th Armored, then assist the Etruscan Infantry with their assault. Next the advance to the east is to be made with the goal of capturing Acroma, El Adem, Retma, and Bir El Gubi.


Afrika Korps and Etruscan Armored force moving to sweep around Bir Hacheim.




190 Pz of 90th Light engaging reconnaissance unit of 7th Armored






7th Armored Tanks counter-attacking stopped by 90th Light and 21st Panzer





90th Light taking casualties





Commonwealth infantry being destroyed in Retma by 33 Recon/15th Panzer




Bir Hacheim being cleared by 65 Bersaglia/Trieste and 8 Bersaglia/Ariete Mechanized Infantry






Knightsbridge being assaulted by the Afrika Korps





Infantry in Knightsbridge being mopped up by 104th/21st Panzer




Bir el Gubi fell to a combined assault of 21st Panzer and 3 Recon/21st Panzer and 33 Recon/15th Panzer and artillery barrages





104/21st Panzer PC taking rocket hit at 1st South African defensive position



Enemy infantry at 1st South African destroyed by 8 Bersaglia/Trieste and 104/21st Panzer





PC of 361/90th Light destroyed assaulting Acroma




Bir el Gubi secured at high cost




190/90 Light assaulting El Adem





Assault on the Gazala Line was successful. Afrika Korps units made it to Tobruk and cleared the town.

[mirth]

^Very cool!

[Skoop]

I'd love to see SB do WWII for real, currently not being covered by anyone in active development and the vehicles were present in plenty of post WWII conflicts. 

[Asid]

OPERATION BATTLEAXE



SITUATION:
The Commonwealth mounts an offensive to clear the frontier region.

MISSION:
The Commonwealth is to defeat the Afrika Korps on the frontier and secure Sollum, Fort Capuzzo, and Sidi Aziez.

EXECUTION:
The Commonwealth will launch a three-prong attack to clear the frontier region. Coast Force is responsible for capturing Halfaya Pass, Escarpment Force is to capture the remainder of the frontier at Fort Capuzzo, Musaid and Sollum. The 7th Armored Brigade Group is to capture Sidi Omar, Bir Ghirba, and Sidi Azeiz and destroy the Afrika Korps.





7th Armored Brigade Group and 4th Indian moving out




7th Royal Tanks heading out




11th Hussars moving out




2nd Royal Tanks engaging 5th Light Reconnaissance units




7th Royal Tanks attacking Sidi Omar




Sidi Omar cleared by 1st Kings Royal Rifles



1st Kings Rifles advancing on Bir Ghirba




6th Rajputan Rifles destroyed by 15th Panzer




15th Panzer destroyed by 3rd Coldstream Guards at Halfaya Pass





2nd Scots Guards and 5th Mahratta Rifles clearing Halfaya Pass




7th Royal Tanks destroying 5th Light counterattack






6th Royal Tanks destroying 33 PanzerJager counter attack





5th Mahratta taking losses while clearing Musaid




Fort Capuzzo attacked by 4th Royal Tanks and 2nd Rifle Brigade





Sollum cleared by 5th Mahratta Rifles and 2nd Scots guards





Sidi Azeiz cleared by 7th Royal Tanks and 2nd Rifles




Operation Battleaxe a success!

[Asid]

D.O.W. Saturday Mission 23/07/16 @ GMT19:00


Hot potato by Lumi



This scenario is a simulation and does not have any political message.



Mission Summary :
UN convoy is to travel 28km route from camp Charlie to base Cortez. Their cargo being politically very hot, and stakes to get it safely away from country being extremely high.


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Excerpts of the battalion commander's (HAVOC 6) orders for...BLUEFOR (D.O.W.)

1) SITUATION:

a) Enemy:Due to last weeks events resistance forces in the area are less organised than before but extremely aggressive. They are known to have set road side bombs, IED's on our patrol routes. And have used suicide bombers, and small strike teams against our camps.
   

b) Own: Our convoys consist of 2x Eagle IV trucks and 2x Pirantha 3IIC PCs and from Wisent ARV (mineplows / IED demolition)
             

c) Attachments and detachments:  UN forces on camps Jofu and Benzel will give support, supply, medic and repair assist from call.


2) MISSION: Make sure that your cargo will get safely to Base Cortez before local time 14:30.


3) EXECUTION:

Move along 28km patrol route to Base Cortez, you have 1 hour 30 minutes. That should be plenty.

Use your Wisent ARV to breach possible IEDs or minefields - In case of trouble, request help from other UN camps.


Intent: Will be revised once bluefor commander has decided on course of action.


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Information:

Multi-crew mission = Blind vehicles

90 minute time limit.



Date: Saturday 23/07/16
Time: 19:00 GMT
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[Asid]

T.A.N.K.S. Multiplayer 24/07/16 @ 19:00GMT


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*********** by DOW

This scenario is a simulation and does not have any political message.





Mission Summary :


Map
Issued in mission

SITUATION:
Briefed before mission


Date: Sunday 24/07/16
Time: 19:00 GMT
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[Asid]

D.O.W. Saturday Mission 30/07/16 @ GMT19:00

Campaign continuation


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Team Iron Campaign Phase VI by Cougar11 


This scenario is a simulation and does not have any political message.



Mission Summary :
The IRIA has attacked into Iraq crossing and taking the city of Basra and Faw. They have seized the ports and supply routes into Iraq. Kuwait and Iraq have asked for assistance. Nato and US command have determined that for national security interests, regional allies, international supply, and open hostilities, that your force 3rd Brigade ABCT Team Iron of the 4th infantry Division will spearhead US and NATO forces. Brigade objective is to penetrate, and destroy as many forces of the front line of the IRIA 92nd Armored Division(+), push into the Division rear area, and force the 92nd to retreat out of Iraq, and away from the border. Brigade strength must be maintained at 40% of combat forces at all times, and if it drops below we will be forced to fall back to Iraq boundaries. Minimum success is to make the IRIA to return to Iranian boundaries. Moderate success is to push into Iran defeating the second line of forces, and reducing the 92nd to below 70% strength. Major success is to reduce enemy forces to 50% or less in the 92nd, and push into or beyond the third line of forces. Your brigade will be flanked to the North by 1st and 2nd brigade to keep any major flanking maneuvers from threatening that flank. Your forces will have responsibility of your Southern and Southeastern flank. You are required to "designate a force to secure that flank prior to missions, and cannot be from the previous mission. Terrain around Basra is mostly flat and sandy. The further east you travel, the more hills, and mountains you will run into. As you go, there will be increasingly more narrow avenues of approach, limiting your attack options, and allowing the enemy to better engage you.

3rd Brigade 4th Infantry Division has pressed an additional 8KM into the Iranian's 72nd Armored Division area. The brigade has suffered heavy losses to take this terrain. Team Iron has seized three major objectives, the area radar installation, a large population center, and the area airfield. These are vital, in securing the skies for our aircraft. The brigade must push on. The brigade will continue its offensive. Intel suggests that things will only become more difficult. Intel shows elements of the 1-71-72 Armor, 2-1-72 Mechanized, and 3-1-72 Mechanized moving into the area. The arrival of these forces will bring a new dynamic to the operations, and complicate them at the same time. Be prepared for open country, and urban fighting. Commanders prepare for phase 6 of this campaign. Study your graphics, objectives, and briefings. Bring me your force requirements when ready.


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Excerpts of the battalion commander's (HAVOC 6) orders for...BLUEFOR (D.O.W.)

1) SITUATION:

a) Enemy:
   Elements of 3 Iranian Brigades 2-1, 3-1, and 1-71. Their forces will consist of better forces, and have a mix of Russian and NATO vehicles. They are very mobile, have secured most if not all population areas, resources, and road intersections. Most of their forces have mobilized from another area, so expect upto 2 battalions in the area. They continue to have indirect support, High Numbers of ADA, and possible rotary wing support.

b) Own:
              Units set East of PL.

c) Attachments and detachments: Per Player CO.


2) MISSION:

Phase 6 will consist of securing the Refinery and Objective Fox by Echo and Fox Companies. Setup a defensive screen to the West, and provide a safe area for units to move into, and secure the objective H+ 30:00. Additional objective provided by local commander based on unit ability, and approval from higher HQ.



3) EXECUTION:

Company Attack

Intent: Will be revised once bluefor commander has decided on course of action.


Dogs Of War Vehicles : (in mission)

AH-64 Apache
http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=AH-64_Apache

M1A2SEP
http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=M1A2_(SEP)

Ulan
http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=Ulan

And More



Date: Saturday 30/07/16
Time: 19:00 GMT
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[Asid]

Steel Beasts V4.0 Release info

Hopefully this week   More Here

[Grim.Reaper]

Still torn if I will buy this version until all pieces are available...likely will wait for some feedback first.

[Nefaro]

Will be paying attention too.  Because my sim streak will inevitably come back around.

[Apocalypse 31]

Still torn if I will buy this version until all pieces are available...likely will wait for some feedback first.

I'd say save your money then.

There's not much in 4.0 that interests me, and I play the game frequently. A few improvements for dismounts, is really all that spikes my interest in seeing SB expand from the one-trick-pony, crewman simulator, to something that resembles combined arms combat. Currently, the game handles dismounted combat particularly poorly - impossible to be considered a ground combat simulator game when infantry hardly function.

I do enjoy multiplayer events, so I will be upgrading to 4.0 on release, hopefully this week. .

Additionally, I think the terrain system that has been promised for a later 2016 release will fall victim to the same result that the particle system fell victim to, when 3.0 was released - aka - we didnt get it.