CMRT GROGHEAD MULTIPLAYER PLANNING THREAD

[JudgeDredd]

It's time...mostly

You know what a time sink Elite:Dangerous is just now - and that's with it not even half baked...what's going to happen to my gaming time when that universe comes alive?

Then I've now got Steelbeasts Pro PE...again, another time sink!

[sandman2575]

I probably should have made the distinction -- playing real-time in missions where you have to defend / hold territory, you can often micro to the point of crushing the AI. Assaults are difficult whether playing real-time or WEGO, but I still think you gain a decisive advantage over the AI if you play real-time.  (Believe me, I'm no tactical genius either -- plenty of the the assault missions have stymied me in CMBN and FI/GL). 

Sir Slash -- time to update your sig in commemoration of the valiant Pvt. Cox! 

[undercovergeek]

It's time...mostly

You know what a time sink Elite:Dangerous is just now - and that's with it not even half baked...what's going to happen to my gaming time when that universe comes alive?

Then I've now got Steelbeasts Pro PE...again, another time sink!

yeah, i fear everything been shelved when elite goes full on, so easy to forget its in beta and nowhere near feature complete

[JudgeDredd]

I probably should have made the distinction -- playing real-time in missions where you have to defend / hold territory, you can often micro to the point of crushing the AI. Assaults are difficult whether playing real-time or WEGO, but I still think you gain a decisive advantage over the AI if you play real-time.  (Believe me, I'm no tactical genius either -- plenty of the the assault missions have stymied me in CMBN and FI/GL). 

Sir Slash -- time to update your sig in commemoration of the valiant Pvt. Cox!

Ok - I agree definitely about defending.

[MengJiao]

ive spent hours watching wego replays from different angles, particularly satisfying when a heroic deed is committed and you can watch it over and over and then you gain an affinity for the little guy and look out for him on the next turn and follow him through the game

  Playing pretty unevenly in Real time gives me much the same perspective as WEGO: I'm never sure when thing are going to happen and for the most part I have little idea what is going on.  But that is never remedied by a replay and there's no replay so if I want to see something, I have to get over to where it is happening.  This results in a certain amount of rather twisted playing techniques such as the rescue as in:  things go wrong but you want to support some set of your troops -- surrounded in a house or something...So you hurry off and try with the closest forces and that doesn't work, so you go get some more...but of course real time doesn't abolish all the usual command control and panic and so on problems so you get sucked in to one dynamic part of the battle and there's a lot of suspense in some situations.

[Zonso]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NimglJxJ4aM&feature=youtu.be

The above is a clip from a PBEM game I'm playing against a friend.

Lovely scenario, particularly the map, but that's not the reason for the post.

It's, well, that'd be telling...

Suffice to say that you don't get a lot of that in IGOUGO.  I just can't decide for whom I feel more compassion -- the Ami or Commander Heinreich.  Neither of them can honestly be said to have covered themselves in glory...

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)

Nice. I am with you, WEGO is the reason CM is so successful imo. I still recall the magical moment playing the Carentan Op against a long time opponent in the original CMBO when I 'snuck' a lone reconnaissance Puma through no-man's land and came up behind a platoon of Shermans part way through the turn. The Puma KO'd two up the pipe before the turn ended then got two more before the Puma disengaged and the Sherman raced away. Lost the operation but that moment was worth every penny. :)

[Boggit]

The example given above re: how men respond to stonks has indeed been a source of many "awww, c'mon" moments betwixt CM and I over the years.  The TacAI certainly isn't perfect, but I think it's done a fair job of representing reactions during incoming fire moments.  Turn-based games usually have some sort of reaction roll built in anyway which can, depending on a variety of factors cause results similar to the one decried above.

My main love in the clip is the Ami AFV that gets hit and then can't seem to decide whether to return fire or run away; at least based on the erratic rotation of the gun barrel.  That much strikes me as historically plausible.

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)

We share the same view. :) BTW I should have said, I loved the clip too. Oh, the indecision! ;D

[Con]

It gets even better when you watch obsessively all the little things happening when you play PBEM

I need to see if I can pull out the move when I was playing Undercovergeek on a PBEM game where I have a half squad with no AT on one side of a hedge engaging a Canadian Sherman on the other.  I order the other half squad luckily equiped with a Panzerfaust to sprint to support their comrades.  Halfway to the hedge the AT gunner unslings the Panzerfaust and lets the rocket fly down range.  Hitting the hedge in front of the Sherman and killing 4 out of 5 of his safely sheltering comrades.  I think the game tracks which pixel-truppen owe each other money since I have never seen such a case of egregious fragging before.  The second squad seeing the carnage before them decides that now would be a good time to panic and runs back into the field where the Sherman promptly chews them up.  Oh the humanity

Con
Edit turns out that the 3.0 update is unable to open older saved games so this particular piece of CMBN gold is forever lost

[Boggit]

@Con^^

Heh, heh! Great stuff. Sad about losing the save game, that clip would have been a good one. :)

[panzerde]

Let me note here that one of my T-34s just shot one of Cyrano's halftracks in the ass, and he was so offended he killed my tank with a Panther. There was no indecision at all. I suspect his video is actually a subtle attempt to lure future opponents of his into taking posterior shots at him, just so he can distract you with them and then blow you up.

Do not trust this man. He is tricksy that way.

;)

[Cyrano]

For the record, that was not a halftrack.  It was a TAXI, sent to convey those poor, sad, lonely Wehrmacht soldiers back home from your horrible, inhospitable country.

Most uncharitable of you to shoot at their mode of transport forcing them to walk!

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)

[GDS_Starfury]

  I never got the point of loading up, say, a RTS game with highly detailed graphics.  Unless there is a replay viewer, the player never gets a chance to appreciate them while actually playing!

this is exactly why I like playing WoT so much.  its slow enough where you can view the scenery.

[JudgeDredd]

ok I tried WEGO last night with the first small scenario as the Germans...the one where I have to conduct a fighting patrol to the Gangers Hut and then get the troops out.

It wasn't too bad.

Tense though...my troops met the objectives and headed back, but they were tired so I could only give a MOVE order...they got to the exit zone with 15 seconds spare!

It's medium and big scenarios though that eat HUGE amounts of time. Maybe playing PBEM is the answer.....?

[undercovergeek]

Why don't you try just a small 1000 point PBEM and see how it goes.... A scenario w/o a tight time, or adjust the time 

[JudgeDredd]

Why don't you try just a small 1000 point PBEM and see how it goes.... A scenario w/o a tight time, or adjust the time

You fire one up and I'll jump in...no bailing.  :)