In Case You Thoguht You Mattered...

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JasonPratt

Oh certainly not new, except to astrophysics. ;) (That closing shot from the first Thor movie was great. :) )

I keep waiting for someone to officially announce, "Uh... okay, according to math, if the Bang hyperinflated the universe millions of times faster than the speed of light, all our bases for calculating cosmic ages are basically wrong. In a real way, the universe might have only been around for six to ten thousand years; it just seems vastly much older due to the flexibility of time constantly running down in entropy."
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Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: JasonPratt on November 26, 2014, 09:44:08 AM
Oh certainly not new, except to astrophysics. ;) (That closing shot from the first Thor movie was great. :) )

I keep waiting for someone to officially announce, "Uh... okay, according to math, if the Bang hyperinflated the universe millions of times faster than the speed of light, all our bases for calculating cosmic ages are basically wrong. In a real way, the universe might have only been around for six to ten thousand years; it just seems vastly much older due to the flexibility of time constantly running down in entropy."

Horse dung. Even converting carbon to oil or diamonds takes longer than a few 1000 years.
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Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: Staggerwing on November 25, 2014, 09:49:09 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 25, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
Maybe "Galaxy Tree" or something. (Isn't that the new hotness? The universe looks like a tree?

Maybe not so new. Many older belief systems see the greater expanse of existence in the form of a 'world tree'. I'm partial to Yggdrasil myself.

Time tree more like. It has the added benefit of going well with tea time. Have a biscuit.
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MetalDog

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on November 29, 2014, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on November 25, 2014, 09:49:09 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 25, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
Maybe "Galaxy Tree" or something. (Isn't that the new hotness? The universe looks like a tree?

Maybe not so new. Many older belief systems see the greater expanse of existence in the form of a 'world tree'. I'm partial to Yggdrasil myself.

Time tree more like. It has the added benefit of going well with tea time. Have a biscuit.

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"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

Staggerwing

Vituð ér enn - eða hvat?  -Voluspa

Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

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I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
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Quote from: JasonPratt on November 26, 2014, 09:44:08 AM
Oh certainly not new, except to astrophysics. ;) (That closing shot from the first Thor movie was great. :) )

I keep waiting for someone to officially announce, "Uh... okay, according to math, if the Bang hyperinflated the universe millions of times faster than the speed of light, all our bases for calculating cosmic ages are basically wrong. In a real way, the universe might have only been around for six to ten thousand years; it just seems vastly much older due to the flexibility of time constantly running down in entropy."

I didn't peg you for a YEC.
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Vituð ér enn - eða hvat?  -Voluspa

Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

"I'm not just anyone, I'm not just anyone-
I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
-Sonic Reducer, -Dead Boys

JasonPratt

Quote from: Ubercat on November 29, 2014, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 26, 2014, 09:44:08 AM
Oh certainly not new, except to astrophysics. ;) (That closing shot from the first Thor movie was great. :) )

I keep waiting for someone to officially announce, "Uh... okay, according to math, if the Bang hyperinflated the universe millions of times faster than the speed of light, all our bases for calculating cosmic ages are basically wrong. In a real way, the universe might have only been around for six to ten thousand years; it just seems vastly much older due to the flexibility of time constantly running down in entropy."

I didn't peg you for a YEC.

I'm not; I just like the amusing confluence of science oddities.

Carbon doesn't necessarily take that long to turn into coal, btw. Less sure about oil. Fossilization can happen a lot faster than generally advertised, too.

None of that means YEC is true, but there's a lot of pressure the other way to make data fit the paradigm more neatly. As someone who grew up very comfortably believing in neo-Darwinian gradualism and a super-ancient universe, I've found my naturally critical attitude rebounding around in some surprising directions. ;)
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Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!