Oriental Empires -- 4x historical strategy

[mikeck]

I really liked nobungas ambition primarily because of the intrigue/diplomacy. Bribing enemy generals to walk away before battle or intentionally slow their own army, convincing enemy leaders to join you, etc. I also enjoyed the leaders and the necessity of appointing various leaders to perform tasks. For example if you want a road network built have to assign one of your leaders to do it. Each one has different  attributes

What I did not like was the combat. Is this game anything like nobungas ambition as far as the diplomacy and intrigue is concerned ?

Or is it basic and diplomacy like "I want the treaty" or "I will buy weed from you for $500" and the usual civilization type stuff ?

I'm looking for nobungas ambition with better combat more than I'm looking for an oriental civ 5

EDIT: should read "Nobunaga" not Nobunga....text talk fail

[Nefaro]

What I did not like was the combat. Is this game anything like nobungas ambition as far as the diplomacy and intrigue is concerned ?

Or is it basic and diplomacy like "I want the treaty" or "I will buy weed from you for $500" and the usual civilization type stuff ?

I'm looking for nobunagas ambition with better combat more than I'm looking for an oriental civ 5

Good Qs.


From the vid I watched, the combat looks more similar to that in the Hegemony series, with seamless zoom.  Dunno about the rest.

[W8taminute]

Bought the game tonight and like what I see so far with my 1 hour of playtime.  Definitely feels like a cross between Total War and Civ as far as empire management is concerned.  Have not fought any battles yet. 

[Jarhead0331]

What are the 16 factions? Any that are non-Chinese?

[W8taminute]

No non Chinese factions from what I saw.  You have about 6 or so that are unlocked right away with the rest locked.  I assume that after you play the game and fulfill some requirement(s) the others will unlock.

[jomni]

What are the 16 factions? Any that are non-Chinese?

Haven't fired it up but it seems to be ancient tribes before China became China.

[Anguille]

The factions are unlocked after you play a certain number of turns. I don't remember exactly but it should be around 100 - 120 turns. If you play a full game, you should be able to try another faction.

Diplomacy  is standard and you don't have a complex system like in Nobuga. There is a system of politics (edicts) and system of classes within your society (nobles) so you have to pay attention to their different needs.

Some factions are pre-Mongol factions. Every faction has some preferences and bonuses. DLCs should bring in some other nations that are not Chinese and will most likely bring in bigger maps or specific scenarios.

[tgb]

Sooner or later there will be a mod that unlocks all the factions.  :)

Watching a friend play this last night, in addition to the fact that the single-player campaign is complete (Early Access is only so multi-player can be finished, according to the developers) convinced me to buy it today.  It's still a little rough around the edges, but the sale price of $24 is not unreasonable.

One thing I can't figure out is why the treasuries/incomes of cities add up to considerably less than the total shown for the player's faction.

[JasonPratt]

Maybe some multiplier? The income would normally be X from Y city, but due to this and/or that multiplier you're actually getting X2 income instead?

Or the income you see will be the estimated income for the next period which happens to be less than what you just got / currently are getting?

(I don't have the game yet; just making guesses based on other games. :) )

[Boggit]

I've played a little bit with it now and am liking what I've seen so far.

[Gusington]

I just read the message that Steam sent me about the release into early access and like tgb I was like 'wtf?'...the preliminary impressions here seem very good though so...I think I will purchase soon. Also, if anyone has some good companion reading for this please post...I haven't read much on ancient China.

[W8taminute]

Unless I'm missing something battles aren't exactly like the TW series.  You simply issue move and formation/battle orders to your units on the strategic map and then watch the battle unfold during the turn calculation.  There does not seem to be any sort of direct control over your troops during the fight.  Still though I'm liking this game.

[Boggit]

I just read the message that Steam sent me about the release into early access and like tgb I was like 'wtf?'...the preliminary impressions here seem very good though so...I think I will purchase soon. Also, if anyone has some good companion reading for this please post...I haven't read much on ancient China.

You've only got until 27th September then the price rises +20%, as it's currently in a "release sale".

[jomni]

Unless I'm missing something battles aren't exactly like the TW series.  You simply issue move and formation/battle orders to your units on the strategic map and then watch the battle unfold during the turn calculation.  There does not seem to be any sort of direct control over your troops during the fight.  Still though I'm liking this game.

Yeah not the focus of the game.

[tgb]

Which is fine with me.  The combat system reminds me of a prettied-up version of the combat from the old Legion games from Slitherine