Modern Equivalent of LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe?

[Jarhead0331]

...and it's a pretty silly list in my opinion. Farming simulator? Rising sun? Some very questionable choices and some glaring omissions.

[SirAndrewD]

So there is nothing released in the last 10 years that has a dynamic campaign that also allows piloting of the Me262 and Komet?

Not that I know of. 

For reasons that escape me, the era of immersive dynamic campaigns being an integral part of modern sims is very long dead.

I would almost do murder for a modern sim in the style of the Dynamix Aces series, Pacific/European Air War series or the Lucasarts classics. 

[Gusington]

This thread has made me sad. Moreso than usual.

Anyone play Secret Weapons Over Normandy? IIRC it was released in 2003 but it may be my last (only) option here.

[undercovergeek]

...and it's a pretty silly list in my opinion. Farming simulator? Rising sun? Some very questionable choices and some glaring omissions.

I was hoping gus would see I wasn't recommending farm 2015 as a substitute to the secret weapons of the luftwaffe, more of a hopefully there's some other adult discussion about flight sims

Forgive me if its not just flight I haven't read it

[Staggerwing]

This thread has made me sad. Moreso than usual.

Anyone play Secret Weapons Over Normandy? IIRC it was released in 2003 but it may be my last (only) option here.

Secret Weapons over Normandy was the first game I thought of when you posted the question. I have not played it so I google a few game vids and was not impressed. It looks like you can only fly with your view outside the plane in a pure arcade fashion. Also, there appears to be only one campaign and it's allied.

[Gusington]

Yeah I just looked it up too.

*kicks pebble down the road, crestfallen*

[undercovergeek]

Yeah I just looked it up too.

*kicks pebble down the road, crestfallen*

It passes gus my friend

I wanted to fly helicopters last week

[MengJiao]

Hmm interesting. You guys enjoyed Il2 1946? I know some of the more recent releases from that shop have not been so er...warmly received (CLoD).

CLoD is worth looking into, though it is sort of the opposite of Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.  It's more like actual weapons of the Luftwaffe.  Flying the Ju88 is pretty
fun though in CLoD, no matter how you look at it. -- But I haven't played CLoD in about a year.  currently I'm playing DCS (you can fly the F-86 which is sort of a WWII secret weapon kind of plane in some ways) and BoS (the Ju52 is fun to shoot down and the La5 has a kind of secret-weapons look to it) an RoF (the FE2 is weird enough to have a secret weapons look to it and the you can put extra guns on the Dolphin for a secret weapon-like effect oh and there is the Gotha!)

[Gusington]

I remember flying the Ju88, the He111 and the Dornier bomber (17?) in Their Finest Hour. That game made those bombers real to me. And I fell in love with the Bf110.

While we're at it someone somewhere should make a modern sim of the Bf110 with a good ground attack mode. I'd buy that for a dollar. And a Stuka sim with the same.

[SirAndrewD]

I remember flying the Ju88, the He111 and the Dornier bomber (17?) in Their Finest Hour. That game made those bombers real to me. And I fell in love with the Bf110.

While we're at it someone somewhere should make a modern sim of the Bf110 with a good ground attack mode. I'd buy that for a dollar. And a Stuka sim with the same.

I'd buy that too. 

However, I'd buy it with the caveat that it must have a dynamic campaign with some measure of immersion attached, even if it was at the sake of hyper realism. 

This is the problem with modern sims.  They sacrifice everything to make sure that every button, rivet and dial is spot on correct, but they give no context for anything you do.  In essence, they forget the "game" part of the equation. 

Maybe it's that modern developers with any kind of budget simply don't believe that there is a viable audience for such a game anymore.  However, the fact that there are modding collectives out there putting in massive amounts of unpaid free time to try to to eek out every last sliver of entertainment from the last games that gave that kind of experience leads me to conclude that there's a big section of the sim community that feels something is missing. 

[Gusington]

A dynamic campaign is key! We need it.

[Gusington]

Ok so I suppose I can't get a modern version of Secret Weapons. I've wrapped my brain around that.

So...how's Wings of Prey?

[Staggerwing]

Gus, BOB2 may not have any jets in the core game but you can fly the Bf110. In ground attacks even!

[Boggit]

Ok so I suppose I can't get a modern version of Secret Weapons. I've wrapped my brain around that.

SWOTL was great back in the day. You've hit the nail on the head for a SWOTL 2  - there's clearly a market for it.

[jomni]

Ok so I suppose I can't get a modern version of Secret Weapons. I've wrapped my brain around that.

SWOTL was great back in the day. You've hit the nail on the head for a SWOTL 2  - there's clearly a market for it.

But the rivet counters will spoil it. It will turn out like most modern sims.  great in technical detail but lacks a decent campaign and fun factor.