Securom and SafeDisc DRM Not Welcome on Windows 10

[Shelldrake]

According to RPS, older CD-ROM games that use Securom or SafeDisc DRM won't run on Windows 10. MS says this is to keep us safer from viruses. 

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/08/17/windows-10-safedisc-securom-drm/

[Nefaro]

There have been problems with them on Windows since Vista already.  There are already compatibility problems.

Best you can hope for is finding a no-disk check crack that works.  That's the only solution I can see.

[Ian C]

So to play the games we paid for legitimately, we have to resort to using an illegal crack which likely involves searching through infected sites for a potentially infected .exe?

[gameleaper]

Maybe you could use a virtual machine on a windows 10 system to use old DRMs

BUT im fed-up with anti-virus and compatability of my old software, I think matrix have seen this and are releasing games on iPad, I like ipad its safe to shop online and its a new way to game. Its desktop power and the graphics are nice.

I also like the steam machine as it dosnt need anti-virus either and can run top end games, with a brill controller

I will continue to use older windows PCs offline, but what Ive seen a new windows system isn't what I want, BUT I suppose a gaming PC just used for gamimg may be ok, Ive heard Win10 may be subscription based(Icant see it being true does anybody know who has it)

[Nefaro]

So to play the games we paid for legitimately, we have to resort to using an illegal crack which likely involves searching through infected sites for a potentially infected .exe?

Just one of the results of DRM.  Even if it's not too buggy by itself, there will always be possible compatibility issues for that crap in the future.

At least there is an option, of sorts.  It's nobody's fault but the publisher who put the DRM on in the first place AFAIC.

[Huw the Poo]

This is what those of us vehemently opposed to DRM have been banging on about for a long time.  It's a stupid, shortsighted strategy which benefits absolutely nobody (including the publishers) whilst frequently punishing paying customers.  It's heartening to see "no DRM" appear as a badge of honour on many, if not most, of new games these days.

[gameleaper]

This is what those of us vehemently opposed to DRM have been banging on about for a long time.  It's a stupid, shortsighted strategy which benefits absolutely nobody (including the publishers) whilst frequently punishing paying customers.  It's heartening to see "no DRM" appear as a badge of honour on many, if not most, of new games these days.

Huw , how is Linux for anti-virus , because the steam box is Linux?

I suppose a gaming PC just used for gamimg may be ok, Ive heard Win10 may be 12 month subscription based & no new windows versions, its all done by windows update(I cant see it being true does anybody know who has it) I should do a search I suppose

[Huw the Poo]

Huw , how is Linux for anti-virus , because the steam box is Linux?

The Steam Box is indeed (based on) Linux, but make no mistake, it's for gaming and nothing else.  As for security concerns etc, well, there's never been a virus in the wild that can affect Linux to my knowledge.  I've never run antivirus software on Linux, no malware scanners, and no software firewalls (I do use my router's SPI firewall however).

Ive heard Win10 may be 12 month subscription based & no new windows versions, its all done by windows update(I cant see it being true does anybody know who has it) I should do a search I suppose

Microsoft will undoubtedly do something like this.  They've said that Windows 10 will be the last Windows, so yeah, you can absolutely expect paid-for updates or something along those lines.  Unless you're so beholden to nice graphics that you must have DX12 (which Vulkan will blow out of the water by the way), and care more about shiny stuff than your own security and privacy, there's absolutely no reason to install Windows 10.

57% of my Steam library now natively supports Linux.  That's astonishing.  And the ratio improves all the time.  Apparently Valve give unspecified help to developers who support Linux/SteamOS.  Linux is the future. ;)

[bbmike]

Except you will have to eventually upgrade your old version of Windows at some point. Might as well do it now if it's free. Every version of Windows seems to raise privacy concerns and they always seem to be overblown. I think Windows 10 is about more than "shiny stuff". I like it so far and have had ZERO problems. I've tried Linux before and always end up removing it. It can't compete with Windows. 100% of my Steam library works with Windows 10. I would love to see Linux grow and get to 100% compatibility but I just don't see it ever happening.

[Huw the Poo]

A reasonable post mate, with this exception:

Every version of Windows seems to raise privacy concerns and they always seem to be overblown.

Most definitely not overblown, unless you're cool with (for example) exploits being fed directly to your government to allow it to spy on you - the definition of a privacy concern, yes?  This isn't tin-foil-hat stuff, this actually happens.  Plus the general point that Windows has always been, and presumably always will be, an incredibly insecure OS.

[gameleaper]

Huw , how is Linux for anti-virus , because the steam box is Linux?

The Steam Box is indeed (based on) Linux, but make no mistake, it's for gaming and nothing else.  As for security concerns etc, well, there's never been a virus in the wild that can affect Linux to my knowledge.  I've never run antivirus software on Linux, no malware scanners, and no software firewalls (I do use my router's SPI firewall however).

Ive heard Win10 may be 12 month subscription based & no new windows versions, its all done by windows update(I cant see it being true does anybody know who has it) I should do a search I suppose

Microsoft will undoubtedly do something like this.  They've said that Windows 10 will be the last Windows, so yeah, you can absolutely expect paid-for updates or something along those lines.  Unless you're so beholden to nice graphics that you must have DX12 (which Vulkan will blow out of the water by the way), and care more about shiny stuff than your own security and privacy, there's absolutely no reason to install Windows 10.

57% of my Steam library now natively supports Linux.  That's astonishing.  And the ratio improves all the time.  Apparently Valve give unspecified help to developers who support Linux/SteamOS.  Linux is the future. ;)

Thanks Huw, that's what I wanted to know, I think steam boxes will have DX>? card support

[gameleaper]

Except you will have to eventually upgrade your old version of Windows at some point. Might as well do it now if it's free. Every version of Windows seems to raise privacy concerns and they always seem to be overblown. I think Windows 10 is about more than "shiny stuff". I like it so far and have had ZERO problems. I've tried Linux before and always end up removing it. It can't compete with Windows. 100% of my Steam library works with Windows 10. I would love to see Linux grow and get to 100% compatibility but I just don't see it ever happening.

bb I don't think I will ever upgrade, Im keeping my PCs for Gog stuff etc... I may buy a win 10 PC in the future for stuff I cant do on win 8, but remember if you upgrade there is only one month before your stuck with it( I think your install key only will work on win 10, I saw some stuff about this where even a computer bought with win 8 system disks wont allow you to go back to win 9/7) bb you may wish you keep win 7/8 foe AoR and stuff like that

bb I think the steam box is a dumbed down user friendly version of Linuxm you never know your using Linux, its like xbox dash

[gameleaper]

I also remember old upgrades I did where My computer wasn't powerfull enough after a new windows upgrade, even if the specs say your ok, best to buy a win10 machine instead IMHO

[Huw the Poo]

bb I think the steam box is a dumbed down user friendly version of Linuxm you never know your using Linux, its like xbox dash

It's basically a box running Steam permanently in Big Picture mode.  You aren't "supposed" to drop out to a desktop or anything (although it is possible).

[gameleaper]

I just read there is an alienware high end SteamBox, looks like an xmass gift to myself