Master of Orion IV

Huw the Poo · May 18, 2016, 10:37:05 AM

Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 18, 2016, 05:04:47 AM
This is the ONLY 4X game I've ever played to a conclusion...that's how much I enjoyed MOO.

I did find it a tad easy and a bit small...but it is (was?) early access and being developed so I wasn't holding that against it

I didn't get far enough into my game before Stellaris came out to judge difficulty, but I definitely agree with small. I think my game has 100 systems (compare to my current Stellaris game that has 800 and that isn't even the maximum!). It felt kind of cramped. Although to be fair I went with default settings for my first game so maybe there's some room for improvement.

I still think it's a decent game though.

JudgeDredd · May 18, 2016, 12:28:45 PM

Quote from: Huw the Poo on May 18, 2016, 10:37:05 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 18, 2016, 05:04:47 AM
This is the ONLY 4X game I've ever played to a conclusion...that's how much I enjoyed MOO.

I did find it a tad easy and a bit small...but it is (was?) early access and being developed so I wasn't holding that against it

I didn't get far enough into my game before Stellaris came out to judge difficulty, but I definitely agree with small. I think my game has 100 systems (compare to my current Stellaris game that has 800 and that isn't even the maximum!). It felt kind of cramped. Although to be fair I went with default settings for my first game so maybe there's some room for improvement.

I still think it's a decent game though.

Absolutely it is O0

solops · July 08, 2016, 06:13:28 PM

So, is Moo4 any good? I have never seen a major title with so much hype disappear from all the boards (Not just Grogheads) so quickly. Even the bad ones stick around longer, collecting critical comments. I was (am) disappointed in Stellaris. I am liking Polaris Sector more and more. But, if MOO4 comes around on sale, should I buy it?

mikeck · July 08, 2016, 07:39:13 PM

Quote from: solops on July 08, 2016, 06:13:28 PM
So, is Moo4 any good? I have never seen a major title with so much hype disappear from all the boards (Not just Grogheads) so quickly. Even the bad ones stick around longer, collecting critical comments. I was (am) disappointed in Stellaris. I am liking Polaris Sector more and more. But, if MOO4 comes around on sale, should I buy it?

I happen to enjoy Stellaris more than Polaris mainly because of the modded battles in Stellaris. BUT, I reall like Polaris Sector. I think both are better all around than MoO4. I just see anything in MOO that the other 2 don't do better. With space 4xs though, different things weigh more with different people. So if it's on sale, might as well pick it up and see if it grabs you...it's not a BAD game. If you don't though, I don't think your missing much

Anguille · July 09, 2016, 02:44:29 AM

Quote from: solops on July 08, 2016, 06:13:28 PM
So, is Moo4 any good? I have never seen a major title with so much hype disappear from all the boards (Not just Grogheads) so quickly. Even the bad ones stick around longer, collecting critical comments. I was (am) disappointed in Stellaris. I am liking Polaris Sector more and more. But, if MOO4 comes around on sale, should I buy it?

I have played about 50 hours of MOO4. It's a good game even if it's not the MOO i want (big fan of MOO1 mostly) and don't regret getting the game. However, the game is still a work in progress. I have barely played EA5 because they made some big changes...they still have to bring back minor races etc....there's still a long way to go....much longer than most of the players have expected it guess. The final verdict will only be pausible when the game is released. I think there's too much micromanagement at this point for my taste but i guess many will like it that way. Feel free to ask more questions.

Anguille · August 25, 2016, 08:15:28 AM

The game is going to be released today (a new patch comes out at the same time). Price is around 30$ for the normal edition.

More updates will be released (no dates yet) later on.

Cheers

tgb · August 25, 2016, 08:45:50 AM

Quote from: Anguille on August 25, 2016, 08:15:28 AM
The game is going to be released today (a new patch comes out at the same time). Price is around 30$ for the normal edition.

More updates will be released (no dates yet) later on.

Cheers

That's one of the most deceptive game trailers I've ever seen. Suitable perhaps for a pre-Alpha teaser, but not day of release. I feel sorry for anyone who gets this thinking they're buying some sort of Wing Commander or Tie Fighter combat sim.

I bought the game on sale several months back and have been checking on it from time to time. It's OK, not great. But if I hadn't already bought it I would consider boycotting it for the reason posted above.

Anguille · August 25, 2016, 08:53:06 AM

The trailer is indeed amazing! :o

FarAway Sooner · August 25, 2016, 08:53:14 AM

What a bizarre launch for such a once-vaunted title.

I get something that's overly ambitious and is a mess on release (like happened with MoO3), but to just warm over a AAA title and release it at a lower-than-normal price point with so little fanfare? It's either a dog and the publisher is making them release it, or they spent all their money acquiring the IP and have nothing left for development or marketing...

Anguille · August 25, 2016, 08:57:00 AM

I've read about 5-7 reviews and they range from ok to fantastic. Most of them are positive though so the press is less critical than some of us.

RedArgo · August 25, 2016, 09:00:11 AM

Wow, that trailer has nothing to do with the game.

I've been playing off and on for while. It's a fine game, feels a lot like MOO2, expect the rt combat and starlanes of course. The AI is mediocre at best. Not a bad base, if they continue to patch and expand it.

bbmike · August 25, 2016, 09:08:11 AM

Agree the trailer is very odd indeed. That said, if you haven't heard of Master of Orion by now, you must have just crawled out of a 50's fallout shelter.

Jarhead0331 · August 25, 2016, 09:09:20 AM

The trailer is cinematic. Sure, it doesn't show gameplay, but I don't think its disingenuous as some seem to be suggesting...its just not particularly useful.

Anyway, I agree with most...MOOIV is an above-average space 4x game. I don't think it deserves the criticism it is presently getting around here. Its decent for what it is and I think it may be getting judged harshly simply because it has MOO in its title.

tgb · August 25, 2016, 09:22:41 AM

Quote from: bbmike on August 25, 2016, 09:08:11 AM
Agree the trailer is very odd indeed. That said, if you haven't heard of Master of Orion by now, you must have just crawled out of a 50's fallout shelter.

Or all you know about computer games is what to get your grandson for his birthday. "Johnny likes games where he can fly around in a spaceship and blow stuff up! Let's get him this Mister Orions thing! It looks good."

You think this person is reading RPS and watching Twitch streams of the game to see what it's like?

bbmike · August 25, 2016, 09:44:50 AM

I did say the trailer was odd. But what you're describing is a different issue that no amount of advertising would solve. Like when I was young and would ask my parents for a specific Star Trek toy for Christmas and they would end up getting some Tim Conway brand of UFO toy.
"No, this is better than what you wanted! And it was cheaper!" ::)