And the current Islamic terrorist attack is...

[Boggit]

Should you be surprised? ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY

This link is particularly interesting based upon source based material - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ5Bwj3iTrg  @around 7:50 there is an interesting link between history and the Qu'ran. It seems that ISIL is better representative of Islam  today than the western media will have us believe. If this link is to be believed then we are undeniably at war.

Maybe some of what Donald Trump was saying isn't actually as crazy as it originally seemed.

[jejo68]

Should you be surprised? ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY

This link is particularly interesting based upon source based material - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ5Bwj3iTrg  @around 7:50 there is an interesting link between history and the Qu'ran. It seems that ISIL is better representative of Islam  today than the western media will have us believe. If this link is to be believed then we are undeniably at war.

Maybe some of what Donald Trump was saying isn't actually as crazy as it originally seemed.

The west is not at war with Islam. To bad Islam is at war with the west

[Gusington]

Undoubtedly.

[JasonPratt]

A definite Islamist multiple-stabbing in a US mall, and several bombs going off across the US this morning / last night, per Mom a few minutes ago. Checking for links now.

[JasonPratt]

Not a lot of news on FB about any of it (although I saw something Mom hadn't yet -- debris from EgyptAir Flight MS804 includes traces of TNT).

New York Times on the Chelsea Manhattan bombing: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/nyregion/chelsea-explosion-what-we-know-and-dont-know.html?_r=0

A second homemade dumpster bomb (like the kind for the Boston Marathon bombing a few years ago) was also found, but it hadn't exploded.

At the moment I'm going to suppose that the reports of other explosions Mom mentioned were a confused recollection of news last night.

[JasonPratt]

Update: Mom was correct, another explosion near the start of a charity race (for Marine Corps members and their families) at Jersey Shores yesterday morning around 9:30.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/nyregion/jersey-shore-charity-race-canceled-after-explosion.html

Worth noting is that no one has claimed credit for any of these three bombs yet, although the explosions were certainly intentional. The New Jersey bomb harmed no one and nothing -- but that was largely because of an unplanned delay, ironically due to the unexpectedly large number of people attending that morning!  :o It could have been, and if things had gone as planned would have been, much worse.

[JasonPratt]

Now for the attack last night that did definitely (so far) have Islamist connections:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/18/us/minnesota-mall-stabbing/index.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/8-people-injured-during-stabbing-attack-minnesota-mall-074620661.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/man-killed-in-mall-stabbing-spree-referenced-allah-police_us_57de81dee4b08cb140963e89

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/18/attacker-reported-dead-after-stabbing-spree-at-minnesota-mall.html

Shot dead by off-duty cop.

Despite one witness claiming the man called upon Allah and asked at least one victim if the victim was Muslim before stabbing him, the St. Cloud police chief said there wasn't enough evidence yet to regard this as a terrorist attack.

I think he may have a somewhat limited idea of what constitutes a "terrorist" attack.  ::) There isn't any evidence yet (aside from coincidental explosions on the East Coast) that this was an organized attack, or made in connection with a terrorist organization (even if not organized, although ISIS likes to inspire random people to just go do things and then take credit for their actions later if they can).

Also, I suppose technically he wants confirmational witnesses in case the witness was lying (he could hardly be that mistaken with multiple overlapping different pieces of testimony), before he classifies it as an attack with intention to make a statement or bring about an effect by means of inflicting terror: crazy people going crazy are not strictly terrorist actions. (I'm trying to be fair to the police chief.)

[steve58]

Another explosion, this time in Elizabeth, NJ.

Suspect in the NJ and NYC bombs is Ahmad Khan Rahami, 28, a naturalized citizen from Afghanistan, the FBI said.

[steve58]

Ahmad Khan Rahami is in custody after shootout.

[mirth]

Ahmad Khan Rahami is in custody after shootout.

good

[Boggit]

Another attack from a devotee of the religion of peace. There's something very "1984" about this doublespeak.

[jejo68]

Another attack from a devotee of the religion of peace. There's something very "1984" about this doublespeak.

yeah those damn buddhists. They are so violent....... oh wait

[JasonPratt]

Fatal shooting of 5 people in a Macy's at a Bloomington, Oregon mall last night; culprit still at large as far as I could tell this morning. No evidence of Islamic connections so far other than general skin color -- and he has been described as Hispanic by one witness -- but with the things going on in the world it's hard not to be suspicious.  :-\

Of course, people just go crazy and shoot others sometimes for various (loose) 'reasons'. About 45 minutes south of me in Jackson, there was an employee of a factory who got fired, called someone to pick him up, that guy brought a rifle, and he started shooting cars in the lot. Mom and Dad were driving past during the police manhunt. One of my workers had a girlfriend working at the factory. No one eventually hurt (although the... eventually naked??... man fled surprisingly far through West TN fieldbrush before being caught in a final shootout.) Islamic connections? None at all. BLM connections? None at all. Naturally he was in a no-guns allowed area; police were kind of worried he'd get shot by someone else trying to escape (this being West TN), though more worried police on the chase would be accidentally shot by civilians trying to help.

[acctingman]

Fatal shooting of 5 people in a Macy's at a Bloomington, Oregon mall last night; culprit still at large as far as I could tell this morning. No evidence of Islamic connections so far other than general skin color -- and he has been described as Hispanic by one witness -- but with the things going on in the world it's hard not to be suspicious.  :-\

Of course, people just go crazy and shoot others sometimes for various (loose) 'reasons'. About 45 minutes south of me in Jackson, there was an employee of a factory who got fired, called someone to pick him up, that guy brought a rifle, and he started shooting cars in the lot. Mom and Dad were driving past during the police manhunt. One of my workers had a girlfriend working at the factory. No one eventually hurt (although the... eventually naked??... man fled surprisingly far through West TN fieldbrush before being caught in a final shootout.) Islamic connections? None at all. BLM connections? None at all. Naturally he was in a no-guns allowed area; police were kind of worried he'd get shot by someone else trying to escape (this being West TN), though more worried police on the chase would be accidentally shot by civilians trying to help.

I think you mean Burlington Wa?

I'm in Seattle and Burlington is about an hour north of Seattle

Yes, the fatalities happened in a Macy's

[JasonPratt]

Yes, was a bit dopey this morning, I meant Washington State. That big county north of Oregon. ;)